Nareit's REIT Report Podcast

Daniel Ismail, co-head of strategic research at Green Street, joined the REIT Report to discuss recent REIT M&A activity and its implications for the sector.REIT M&A activity has been lively in 2025, with the pace expected to continue into 2026, especially if interest rates decline, Ismail said. At the same time, however, the size of transactions is about 80% smaller than over the past decade, he added.Deals announced this month include the acquisition of Sotherly Hotels Inc. (Nasdaq: SOHO) by a joint venture backed by Kemmons Wilson Hospitality Partners and Ascendant Capital Partners, and the acquisition of Plymouth Industrial REIT, Inc. (NYSE: PLYM) by Makarora Management LP and Ares Alternative Credit funds.Ismail pointed out that in a typical REIT M&A event, the premium to unaffected share price is about 15%. In the case of Plymouth Industrial, that premium stands at 50%, and jumps to 150% for Sotherly. 

James Davidson, Houston-based capital markets partner in the REIT practice at Hogan Lovells, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. He discussed the recent Fermi Inc. IPO and its implications for the REIT industry, particularly in the context of the energy and infrastructure assets that are needed to fuel the buildout of AI technology.“The way to think about Fermi is that it's a mainstream attempt to finance the physical side of artificial intelligence with a REIT wrapper…that is highly investable to the broadest set of investors,” Davidson said. He discussed the evolving role of infrastructure in the REIT space, the potential for strong foreign capital investment, and the challenges faced in integrating energy and infrastructure assets into the REIT model. 

In this conversation, Brian Rubin discusses the key issues and priorities facing REIT boards today, including economic uncertainty, regulatory compliance, and the need for technology fluency. He emphasizes the evolving skills required for board members, strategies for effective governance, and the role of AI in enhancing board operations. The discussion highlights the importance of continuous improvement in governance practices to adapt to changing risks and opportunities in the real estate sector.

Friso Berghuis, director of listed investments at Dutch pension fund investment manager Bouwinvest, joined the REIT Report podcast to discuss the integration of REITs and listed real estate into Bouwinvest’s global investment strategy.Bouwinvest has executed on a fully integrated public and private real estate strategy since 2012. Berghuis noted that including listed real estate ensures the opportunity to invest in specific compelling geographic markets and sectors such as health care, self-storage, and data centers.“Essentially, investing in listed real estate means you are also adding high quality diversified portfolios to the mix. And these portfolios are generally managed by seasoned management teams,” Berghuis said.Other reasons to choose global listed real estate include the ability to move quickly to invest in multiple sectors and markets, and the fact that listed and unlisted investments generally do not move in sync, he noted. 

Victor Coleman, chairman and CEO of Hudson Pacific Properties, Inc. (NYSE: HPP), joined the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. He discussed the unique positioning of Hudson Pacific in the REIT sector, with its focus on marquee office and studio properties for tech and media tenants.Coleman shared insights on current trends in the West Coast office market, the impact of AI on real estate, innovative leasing strategies, the effects of new tax incentives on studio demand in California and New York, and the financial improvements Hudson Pacific has made to ensure future growth. During the interview, Coleman observed that West Coast office fundamentals are “absolutely improving,” led by San Francisco, which he described as the “epicenter of AI.” Public safety initiatives in the city have also led to an increase in investment, he noted. 

Sally Ann Flood, Vice Chair and U.S. Real Estate Sector Leader at Deloitte, shares vital insights from Deloitte's 2026 Commercial Real Estate Outlook. With an optimistic sentiment index of 65, she reveals that 75% of global executives plan to boost their real estate investments. Flood highlights key sectors like data centers and logistics, discusses capital market dynamics, and explores AI's growing role in the industry. She emphasizes the U.S. as a top investment destination, driven by strategic partnerships and evolving tax policies.

Bill Hughes, managing director, liquid strategies at Digital Bridge Investment Management, joined the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. He discussed opportunities in listed real estate and REITs for institutional investors, the impact of liquidity on market dynamics, the importance of strategic portfolio construction in relation to interest rates, and more.Hughes noted that now is an “interesting time” for institutional investors to be thinking about their allocation to public real estate, where a number of higher quality assets are trading at material discounts to private market values. He described the public markets as having “a decent number of mispriced and interesting” investments available right now.During the interview he also noted that for DigitalBridge, focusing capital into “idiosyncratic stories within a fairly rich and diverse opportunity set that is the REIT market” provides its investors with exposure to investments that are significantly different from what they can find in the private markets or in a market cap weighted index.

In this episode, Sarah Borchersen-Keto and Uma Moriarity, senior investment strategist at CenterSquare Investment Management, discuss the implications of recent Federal Reserve decisions on interest rates and their impact on REITs and the commercial real estate market. They explore historical trends in REIT performance, current investor sentiment, and the valuation differences between public and private real estate markets. Moriarity shares insights on high conviction property types and strategies for building resilient portfolios amidst economic uncertainty.

Stacey McEvoy, partner at Hogan Lovells, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. She discussed REIT transaction activity, capital raising, legal and regulatory issues facing the industry, and more. McEvoy noted that REITs demonstrated resilience in the first half of 2025 and pointed out that those REITs that have maintained disciplined balance sheets have been the most successful at navigating market volatility. “I do think the modest positive performance that REITs have experienced during these uncertain times have left them well-positioned to achieve stronger performance in 2026 as the markets stabilize,” she said. McEvoy also said the market is continuing to feel the effects of the high cost of capital from the last couple of years, along with higher cap rates. “And although those have been declining, investor sentiment remains cautious. As a result, transaction volume has been down.” 

Chad Lavender, president of capital Markets for North America at Newmark, was a guest on the latest episode of the REIT Report podcast. Lavender discussed REIT capital market activity today, including solid demand for larger asset portfolios, REIT sectors where capital is being deployed extensively, the anticipated wave of investment in alternative asset classes, and more. Lavender noted that capital market activity for the health care sector, particularly senior housing, has outperformed other asset classes over the past couple of years. Meanwhile, office REITs have also been active on the acquisition front, he noted, with many opting for JV partnerships in the process. Sovereign wealth funds in the Middle East and Asia continue to be active JV partners with REITs, he added. As for interest in alternative assets, Lavender described a “huge wave of investing,” pointing out that the digital infrastructure and data center boom “is a modern day gold rush.”