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We advocate for a model of development that allows our cities, towns and neighborhoods to grow financially strong and resilient.
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Mar 24, 2020 • 44min
Strongest Town Semifinals: Watertown, SD
Sarah Caron and Michael Heuer talk about zoning changes that helped create housing options for people of all ages and abilities in Watertown, how switching to two-way streets (and ending parking minimums) boosted the already vibrant downtown, and Watertown's "secret weapon" in building a stronger community.
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Mar 24, 2020 • 34min
Strongest Town Semifinals: Winona, MN
Luke Sims on why re-legalizing mixed-use neighborhoods in Winona has led to the kind of organic development that makes people happy, Winona's success in helping people start and grow businesses, and on lowering the barrier to entry -- both for entrepreneurs and homebuyers.
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Mar 24, 2020 • 27min
Strongest Town Semifinals: Beloit, WI
Shauna El-Amin talks about the "build your own" philosophy that has helped Beloit grow its downtown one entrepreneur at a time, the coordinated effort to rehab once-blighted properties into homes and businesses people love, and how the impact one transformation can boost the morale of an entire neighborhood.
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Mar 23, 2020 • 1h 22min
Tales from the Crypt, +Update
A brief update from Chuck Marohn and (by request) a replay of Chuck's recent appearance on the Tales from the Crypt podcast with Marty Bent. Many thanks to Marty for allowing the rebroadcast.
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Mar 17, 2020 • 30min
Do What You Can, a Coronavirus Update
There are decades when nothing happens and there are weeks when decades happen. Suddenly, the fragility that Strong Towns has long talked about is front and center to our national conversation. What is a Strong Towns advocate to do? We're starting that conversation today as the Strong Towns movement shifts into a new mode of operations to fit the times we find ourselves in.

Mar 9, 2020 • 52min
Ben Stevens: Every Building Is a Startup
There are many emotions associated with the creation of a new building in our neighborhood. They can be symbols of our best hopes...or our worst fears. Many of us have strong feelings about the kinds of buildings we want in our cities and towns, but, unless we are developers ourselves, chances are good we don’t have a holistic understanding of all the disciplines involved in creating that new building — disciplines that include urban planning, architecture, law, finance, and government, to name just a few — or the risks involved.
Ben Stevens wants to help demystify the process, not just for laypeople with a vested interest in what gets built in their neighborhoods, but even for those professionals involved in one aspect of the creation of a building but who may not have a full appreciation for the other aspects.
Ben is the author of the recent book The Birth of a Building. He is a real estate developer, a project manager at an affordable housing development firm in Chicago, and the founder of The Skyline Forum, an online interview series with developers, architects, and urban planners. He is also our guest on this week’s episode of the Strong Towns podcast.
Together, Ben Stevens and Chuck Marohn talk about incremental development and why the development that’s best for our cities is often the most difficult as a business model. They discuss the “perfect storm” of housing affordability. (It’s not merely an issue of supply, but also financing, pressures from neighborhood associations, unprecedentedly high quality, and more.) They also discuss the tension at the heart of the American dream and why the creation of a building is a complex (and not merely complicated) undertaking.
Then we hear about two simple ways city officials can “kick the tires” on the development process in their own community, with an eye toward lowering risk and getting the kind of development they most want.
This promises to be the first of multiple conversations over the coming months and years. You don’t want to miss it.
Show Notes:
The Birth of a Building, by Ben Stevens (book)
The Birth of a Building (website)
The Skyline Forum
Ben Stevens (Twitter)
Ben Stevens (LinkedIn)
Recent Strong Towns Articles on Incremental Development
How Incremental Development Came to Miami, by Andrew Frey
Is “Gentle Density” Enough, by Daniel Herriges
How to Get Started as a Small-Scale Developer, by R. John Anderson

Mar 6, 2020 • 20min
Danielle Arigoni: Making Great Places for People of all Ages
We’re undergoing a massive demographic shift in the United States, says Danielle Arigoni, director of AARP’s Livable Communities initiative. By 2034, for the first time in our country’s history, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under 18.
These changes make it not only important but urgent to build towns and cities that are strong for people of all ages and abilities.
The Livable Communities initiative is on the front lines of doing just that. We’re breaking from our usual Monday publishing schedule to tell you more about it on this episode of the Strong Towns podcast.
Strong Towns president Chuck Marohn talks with Danielle Arigoni about why placemaking isn’t just for Millennials, about how temporary projects help move the needle on poverty, and why it’s more important than ever to engage the whole community in building stronger, more livable, and more livable communities.
Danielle also introduces listeners to an abundance of resources from AARP. These include:
A grant program that will fund at least $1 million of quick-action projects that lead to demonstrable change
A new book collaboration with Team Better Block
A new report on rural livability
And much more.
Show Notes:
AARP Livable Communities (site)
AARP Livable Communities (Twitter)
Community Challenge Grant
The Pop-Up Placemaking Toolkit (with Team Better Block)
2020 Rural Livability Report
Age-Friendly Network
AARP Livable Communities Newsletter
Team Better Block
Recent Strong Towns articles on building livable communities for people of all ages:Want a city that works for people of all ages? Take these 3 steps., by Rachel Quednau
America is Aging. And Seniors Will Suffer Disproportionately From a World Built Around Driving., by Daniel Herriges
A (Solvable) Epidemic of Loneliness, by Chuck Marohn
The Livability of a Multi-Generational Neighborhood, by Daniel Herriges
The Isolation of Aging in an Auto-Oriented Place, by Sara Joy Proppe

Mar 2, 2020 • 45min
David McAlvany: Legacy is an Accumulation of Little Decisions
What comprises a legacy? Is it your one big win (or big loss)? Probably not. No matter what domain of life we’re talking about—the built environment, our city finances, or our family and community—chances are good that our legacy will be (in the words of today’s podcast guest) the accumulation of many little decisions. The big question is whether the legacy we leave will be one we intended to leave.
This week’s guest on the Strong Towns podcast is David McAlvany, a respected thought leader on the global economy. David is the CEO of McAlvany ICA and the host of McAlvany Weekly Commentary, a podcast about monetary, economic, and geopolitical news. (This is on the very short list of can’t-miss podcasts for Strong Towns president Chuck Marohn.) David is also the author of The Intentional Legacy, a book about consciously shaping the legacy we hope to leave future generations.
In this episode, Chuck Marohn and David McAlvany discuss how to be more intentional in what we pass on to the future—at home and at work, as well as in our cities and towns. They talk about how the increasing speed of life may be affecting the quality of our decisions, why crises emerge when we ignore basic maintenance—this is true both in the built environment and in our most important relationships—and who an elected official’s real constituents are (hint: it’s not voters in the next election).
The word “intentional” comes from a Latin word meaning “to stretch toward.” Thus, to be intentional with our legacy is to stretch towards the future even as we make decisions in the present. This wide-ranging conversation will help us make the right decisions, the kind of decisions—big and small—we’ll feel comfortable rippling ahead of us for generations to come.
Additional Show Notes:
The Intentional Legacy (book), by David McAlvany
McAlvany’s Weekly Commentary (podcast)
DavidMcAlvany.com
McAlvany ICA
David McAlvany (Twitter)

Feb 24, 2020 • 48min
Jenny Schuetz: Who's To Blame for High Housing Costs?
The affordable housing crisis is affecting not just people in coastal cities like Boston, New York, San Francisco, L.A., Seattle, and Portland. The crisis is spreading geographically and rippling throughout the economy. In the midst of such a crisis, it’s natural to want to assign blame; it’s also natural to look for a silver bullet solution. But is that even possible with a phenomenon as massive (and massively complex) as the housing crisis? Is development a rigged game, open only to the largest and best-connected firms?
To help us get some answers we talked to Jenny Schuetz, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at The Brookings Institution. Schuetz is an expert in urban economics and housing policy, with a focus on housing affordability.
In this episode of the Strong Towns podcast, Strong Towns president Chuck Marohn talks with Schuetz about her recent article on the factors driving up housing costs. She and Chuck discuss the role of uncertainty—both “time uncertainty” and “success uncertainty”— in the soaring cost of homes, why only the biggest developers can afford to build in some major metros, and why local housing discussions often pit the homeowner class against the renter class.
They also discuss what city officials and local advocates can do to loosen the housing market in their places—including allowing the next increment of growth by right, similar to the recent change in Minneapolis.
This is a masterclass on the housing crisis from one of the nation’s foremost experts.
Additional Show Notes:
Read Jenny Schuetz’s article: “Who’s to blame for high housing costs? It’s more complicated than you think.”
Follow her on Twitter: @jenny_schuetz
Jenny Schuetz at The Brookings Institution
Subscribe to the Brookings Metro Newsletter
Recent Housing Articles from Strong Towns
“Why Are Developers Only Building Luxury Housing?”
The 5 Immutable Laws of Affordable Housing
8 Things Your Town Can Do to Add More Housing (Without Spending a Dime)
Can We Afford to Care About Design in a Housing Crisis?
We Used to Just Call These Houses

Feb 17, 2020 • 54min
Tim Carney: "Alienated America" and the Rise of Populism
The rise of Donald Trump in the 2016 primaries—and his eventual win in the general—defied expectations and confounded explanations. Nearly every national poll was wrong, and political observers have spent the last four years trying to understand what happened (and how so many of the experts missed it).
In his book Alienated America: Why Some Places Thrive While Others Collapse, Timothy Carney makes the compelling case that the most common explanations for Trump’s ascendance—the economy, for example—don’t get to the root of things. He demonstrates that the people who resonated with Trump’s message that “the American dream is dead” are those whose communities lacked the social cohesion that binds neighbor to neighbor. While voters cast ballots mostly along party lines in the general election, in the early primaries, Candidate Trump actually struggled in places where the institutions that are “the key to the good life”— faith communities, vibrant civic organizations, etc.—already gave people a strong sense of purpose and belonging. Maybe you’re starting to see why Strong Towns founder and president Chuck Marohn named Alienated America one of the best books he read in 2019, saying “I highly recommend it to anyone trying to understand the cultural ramifications of fragile places.”
Tim Carney is Chuck’s guest on this week’s episode of the Strong Towns podcast. Together, they discuss how populism—on both the right and the left, and in 2016 as well as today—is springing from alienation (we need to belong to something). They talk about community’s physical dimension (proximity, walkability, etc.), why people are healthiest when they belong to “a lot of little platoons,” and why idleness isn’t so much a vice as an affliction. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in how frayed social bonds effect not just our national politics but our local life as well.
Show Notes:
Timothy Carney on Twitter
Timothy Carney at the Washington Examiner
American Enterprise Institute
Alienated America (out in paperback this week)
Chuck Marohn’s Best Books of 2019
“Dignity in an Alienated America”: A Conversation between Tim Carney and Chris Arnade