

A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn
Gabe Dunn | Diamond MPrint Productions
After years of attempting to "girlboss" his way out of systemic class divide, Gabriel Shane Dunn, now a trans man and veteran podcaster, relaunches his show, “Bad With Money,” with a furious, funny, and deeply personal exploration of surviving our capitalist hellscape. Ditching conventional finance advice, “A Thousand Natural Shocks,” is a companion show to Gabe’s thriving newsletter of the same name. This isn't just about money; it's about breaking free from the individualistic lies and fighting for collective liberation. Capitalism is killing us. The police state is killing us. Fascism is killing us. But we can no longer feel helpless. We can resist.Send a question or voice memo to GabeIsBadWithMoney@gmail.com.
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Jun 6, 2018 • 54min
Cap & Pat (aka Legal Weed)
States across the U.S. are debating marijuana legalization, but thus far, the rollout of this has been confusing to say the least. So, to dig into that further, we have German Lopez, a senior reporter at Vox help us wade through. Next, Amanda Chicago Lewis a journalist who covers marijuana digs into plant patents and who's benefitting from legalization. And finally, Nina Parks and Sunshine Lencho, founders of Supernova Women, who are working to make sure women of color aren't left out of the conversation.
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May 30, 2018 • 50min
Health is Wealth (aka Personal Finance Education)
This week, Gaby finds a financial literacy unicorn. Nan Morrison actually learned a lot about money from her parents, which is a luxury a lot of us don't have. Luckily, she's working to make financial literacy education better, as CEO and president of the Council for Economic Education. Next up, it's Cristen Conger and Caroline Ervin, hosts of Unladylike, a podcast about what happens when break the rules. We tasked them with digging up some history and sociology around the ways gender and sexism works its way into our financial lives. And Herman Brodie, a behavioral economist looks at why it's so hard to trust the people who handle our money. And finally, one of this show's producers, Lindsey Kratochwill shares a little bit about her own financial education, and how it couldn't prepare her for what happened once she became an adult.
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May 23, 2018 • 1h 2min
The M-Word (aka Amazon)
Gaby starts out by second-guessing some of her recent Amazon Prime purchases - and then starts to question a whole lot more. This week, we investigate Amazon's chokehold on the American consumer experience, and whether we ought to be fighting harder to break free from its clutches. Featuring Stacy Mitchell, Lina Khan, Jessica Bruder, and Nicole Aschoff.
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May 16, 2018 • 41min
A Mysterious And Unknowable Force (aka the Stock Market)
Gaby takes her knowledge of what a stock is, and takes that a step further to learn how to get one. Buzzfeed breaking news reporter Amber Jamieson noticed her friends getting rich from stocks, so she decided to try her hand at it, and shares what she learns in a newsletter called Better Have My Money. But before we go wild, Julie Matthaei, an economics professor at Wellesley, gives us a capitalism reality check. And finally, to make sure we're buying the right stocks, and investing according to our values, Morgan Simon, author of the book "Real Impact," has some helpful ways to stay on track.
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May 9, 2018 • 45min
It's Not Just a Few Feet Of Sea Level Rise (aka Climate Change is an Economic Issue)
Gaby revisits her roots, and goes deep on how climate change affects inequality in Florida. Jessica Moulite, a social media reporter and producer for Fusion explains how climate gentrification is affecting neighborhoods in Miami. Caroline Lewis, who is the founder of the CLEO Institute helps us understand why this has such a compounding effect. And finally, Tamma Carleton, a PhD candidate who's part of the Climate Impact Lab, broadens the scope, and has some fascinating data about how a warming world affects the workforce, and how people just general interact with each other.
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May 2, 2018 • 38min
Just Give People Money (aka Universal Basic Income)
Gaby learns what the country might look like if we weren't constantly worried about making enough money. Our trusty teachers for this episode include: Lauren Smiley, a journalist who's covered Silicon Valley's feelings toward a universal basic income. Peter Frase, editor at Jacobin magazine, who gives us a harsh truth of tech bros' UBI support. Mia Birdsong, who tells us an about her research in communities that might benefit from a UBI. And finally, this is it guys: a presidential candidate. Andrew Yang explains why his platform is focused on giving everyone money.
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Apr 25, 2018 • 47min
Buy Canadian Drugs! (aka Our Health Care System is Sick)
Gaby takes the pulse of our health care system, and the prognosis is grim. To help understand it all, we have Elisabeth Rosenthal, editor-in-chief of Kaiser Health News, and author of "An American Sickness: How Healthcare became Big Business and How You Can Take it Back." Then we hear from Maly Ly, chief marketing officer at YouCaring, about how crowdfunding sites have risen to the challenge of fixing this broken system. And... don't hold your breath. Lauren Berliner, assistant professor at the University of Washington Bothell explains how crowdfunding really isn't an effective bandaid.
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Apr 18, 2018 • 50min
The Gender Pay Gap (aka Why There Aren't Any Female Elevator Operators)
Gaby explores the maddening and bizarre history of the gender pay gap - and discovers a startlingly simple potential solution. Featuring Claire Suddath (Bloomberg Businessweek), Andrea Johnson (National Women's Law Center Senior Counsel for State Policy), and Dane Atkinson (CEO of SumAll).
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Apr 11, 2018 • 41min
Bullet-Speed Trains & Broken Stairwells (aka Structural Racism)
We're back, baybeeeee! In Season Three of Bad With Money, we'll be going even harder against the American financial system than we did in Season Two (so, uh...hope you enjoyed that?). And for our season premiere, we're jumping right into the deep end, and talking about that thing too many white people are afraid to talk about: structural racism. Gaby's guests share some hard truths about the massive wealth and achievement gap faced by Black people in the US - and also offer some strikingly reasonable potential solutions. Featuring Tricia Rose, Prudence Carter, Sandy Darity, Lisa Sturtevant, and Stephanie Killian.
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Apr 4, 2018 • 1h 3min
BONUS EPISODE: Live from PodCon with Dylan Marron
We're back with a bonus episode, and some special Bad With Money news. In December, Gaby taped a live episode of Bad With Money at PodCon, featuring Dylan Marron. Dylan is the host of Conversations with People Who Hate Me, the voice of Carlos on Welcome to Night Vale, and just an all-around genius. So here's that conversation, just for you. It's like a gift!But wait: We have more gifts for you. Bad With Money is coming back with season three next Wednesday, April 11. Also, Bad With Money is a book! It's coming out later this year, and we'll make sure you have the link to pre-order it as soon as it's ready.
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