
Good Heavens! The Human Side of Astronomy
A podcast about astronomy and faith with Wayne and Dan. Making astronomy relevant and understandable.
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Jul 18, 2023 • 42min
Is There Life Out There? Part 2. A Conversation on Extraterrestrial Life with Dr. Jeff Zweerink
If extraterrestrial life existed, how would it impact our faith in Christ? What would it look like? Would it be something like bacteria, plants or animals, or something more resembling intelligent agents like ourselves? Is the Earth specially designed to host biological life or are there other "Earth-like" planets in the universe today? This is part two of our special combined broadcast of Apologetics Profile and Good Heavens! with cosmologist and author Dr. Jeff Zweerink of Reasons to Believe. If you have friends or family interested in the question of extraterrestrial life, you don't want to miss this episode.
Show Notes
Jeff's book "Is There Life Out There?"
https://www.amazon.com/There-Life-Out/dp/1886653003
Previous interview with Jeff on Is There Life Out There?
https://coldcasechristianity.com/writings/is-there-life-out-there-interview-with-jeff-zweerink/
Good Heavens Podcast episode (Feb. 2022):
https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/chariots-of-the-gods-no/
Watchman Fellowship https://www.watchman.org
Wayne's article on ancient aliens:
https://creationanswers.net/reviews/ancientaliens_pseudoarch.htm
Ancient Aliens Debunked (Video by Chris White. 3 hrs, 10 min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ
Website by Chris White. Has some references related to topics in the video above.
https://www.ancientaliensdebunked.com
Bible scholar Michael Heiser - Ancient Aliens Debunked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5dER45rkGk
See also this website by Michael Heiser.
http://SitchinIsWrong.com
Watchman Fellowship profiles on alien cults:
Heaven's Gate
https://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/heavensgateprofile.pdf
Raelians
https://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/raelianprofile.pdf
Previous Good Heavens! episodes with Gary Bates on UFOs
Part One: https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/aliens-ufos-and-the-bible-part-1-with-gary-bates/
Part Two: https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/aliens-ufos-and-the-bible-part-2-with-gary-bates/
Daniel’s interview with Sasha Sagan
A Conversation with Sasha Sagan
https://youtu.be/0vQYDLeecN8
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

Jul 17, 2023 • 52min
Is There Life Out There? Part 1. A Conversation on Extraterrestrial Life with Dr. Jeff Zweerink
We have been asking the question as long as we have been able to look up at the stars. Is there life out there in the cosmos? What would it be like? What are the implications for us if there is? And especially, how might extraterrestrial life impact our understanding of the Bible and of the Christian faith? What might extraterrestrial life have to do with Jesus of Nazareth? There is presently no evidence for ET. So why are we talking about it? Find out from an expert cosmologist who has asked this question himself. Dr. Jeff Zweerink of Reasons to Believe joins us to talk with us about his 2017 book Is There Life Out There? The answer may surprise you.
Show Notes
Jeff's book "Is There Life Out There?"
https://www.amazon.com/There-Life-Out/dp/1886653003
Previous interview with Jeff on Is There Life Out There?
https://coldcasechristianity.com/writings/is-there-life-out-there-interview-with-jeff-zweerink/
Good Heavens Podcast episode (Feb. 2022):
https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/chariots-of-the-gods-no/
Watchman Fellowship https://www.watchman.org
Wayne's article on ancient aliens:
https://creationanswers.net/reviews/ancientaliens_pseudoarch.htm
Ancient Aliens Debunked (Video by Chris White. 3 hrs, 10 min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ
Website by Chris White. Has some references related to topics in the video above.
https://www.ancientaliensdebunked.com
Bible scholar Michael Heiser - Ancient Aliens Debunked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5dER45rkGk
See also this website by Michael Heiser.
http://SitchinIsWrong.com
Watchman Fellowship profiles on alien cults:
Heaven's Gate
https://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/heavensgateprofile.pdf
Raelians
https://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/raelianprofile.pdf
Previous Good Heavens! episodes with Gary Bates on UFOs
Part One: https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/aliens-ufos-and-the-bible-part-1-with-gary-bates/
Part Two: https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/aliens-ufos-and-the-bible-part-2-with-gary-bates/
Daniel’s interview with Sasha Sagan
A Conversation with Sasha Sagan
https://youtu.be/0vQYDLeecN8
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

Jul 3, 2023 • 40min
Amazing Exoplanets Part 2
This is part two of our two-part episode on the wondrous world of exoplanets. On this episode Wayne and Dan explore a "super Saturn" with a ring system of over 110,000,000 million miles in diameter. If this planet were where our Saturn is located, we could easily see the rings with the naked eye. They would appear four to five times larger than the full moon!
We'll also be looking at the darkest, blackest exoplanet discovered to date. Just a tad larger than our own Jupiter, It has baffled astronomers ever since its discovery. No one really knows why it's so dark.
How do these marvels help us to better appreciate and marvel at what God has done? Come and see as we explore these wondrous worlds on this episode of Good Heavens!
Links for more information:
Alien world is blacker than coal (TrES-2b)
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/08/alien-world-is-blacker-than-coal/
Super-Saturn: astronomers find a massive ring system around an exoplanet
https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/news/184/super-saturn-astronomers-find-a-massive-ring-system-around-an-exoplanet/
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

Jun 30, 2023 • 50min
Amazing Exoplanets Part 1
Discover the fascinating world of exoplanets with Wayne and Dan. They discuss the Kepler Space Telescope's role in finding over 5,000 known exoplanets since the 1990s. The T.O.I. 178 multi-planetary system, consisting of six interlocked exoplanets with varying compositions, is explored, along with the concept of intelligent life and mathematical resonance. They also delve into the limitations of science, the purpose of the universe, and the unique characteristics of the wobbly planet Kepler 413B.

May 31, 2023 • 1h 8min
Mysteries of a Distant Star - Fomalhaut
The James Webb Space Telescope continues to make headlines with its marvelous head-scratching discoveries. On this episode, Wayne and Dan explore a recent JWST unexpected discovery of a disc and multiple rings around the star Fomalhaut. This discovery promises to challenge current theories about how stars and planets form.
Wayne and Dan not only discuss the science, but also how we see the star pointing to our unique and special place in the cosmos, all for the glory of God in Christ.
Dan's article on fish, faith, and the fantastic findings of Fomalhaut.
Wayne's article on the mysteries of Fomalhaut.
More on the science of Fomalhaut
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2023/webb-looks-for-fomalhaut-s-asteroid-belt-and-finds-much-more
https://earthsky.org/space/fomalhaut-b-not-an-exoplanet-instead-a-dust-cloud/
Astronomer Paul Kalas explains why he still thinks there is an exoplanet at Fomalhaut.
https://w.astro.berkeley.edu/~kalas/index.php/fomalhaut/
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

May 1, 2023 • 1h 20min
Kings of the Cosmos
(Galactic image in the thumbnail - NASA - the James Webb Space Telescope Cartwheel galaxy, previously imaged by the Hubble Space Telescope).
Galaxies, we might say, are kings of the cosmos. Their splendor and size has really only come to be known in the last 100 years, since Edwin Hubble finally determined that Andromeda, and many other galaxies just like it, were not just nebulae in our own universe.
Hubble's telescope, the Hooker Telescope atop Mt. Wilson in California, was the largest of its day. But it's main mirror was only 100 inches. We say "only" because the collective surface area of the new James Webb Space Telescope, made up of 18 individual mirrors, is 21 feet, four inches!
And what it has thus far captured is nothing short of astonishing, like being in the presence of royalty.
On this episode, Wayne and Dan discuss some unsolved mysteries of star and galaxy formation and just how Webb's new galactic discoveries only serve to deepen the mystery and threaten to make scientists completely rewrite their assumptions about how stars and galaxies form!
Come and see!
Some stuff we talked about during the episode.
Stellar streams
Geraint Lewis's work on stellar streams
New JWST discoveries of distant galaxies.
Galaxy basics, NASA.
Wayne's article on galaxies.
Dan's article on galaxies and our place in the cosmos.
Watchman.org
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

Apr 12, 2023 • 1h 19min
Good Heavens! Dwarf Planets?!
Good Heavens! Dwarfs (not dwarves) have stolen Pluto's planetary status! Who are these mischievous entities? Why did they steal from Pluto? Where are they, exactly? And what do dwarfs, dancing, and astronomy have to do with each other?
Join Wayne and Dan for this educational adventure in exploring these recently discovered miscreants of the solar system! Hopefully they've answered all of the perplexing questions on this episode. If not, it's still a fun chat about what's out there and how it all points to the glory of God in Christ.
Easter episodes mentioned at the end of the broadcast:
https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/for-signs-and-for-seasons-calendars-of-the-ancient-world/
https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/the-sun-moon-and-time-calendars-part-2/
https://goodheavens.podbean.com/e/the-lamb-of-god-the-passover-in-the-gospels/
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

Mar 31, 2023 • 19min
Wonders Uncovered by the James Webb Space Telescope
Dan discusses four incredible new images from the James Webb Space Telescope and how they reveal the glory of God. Topics include the Pandora's Cluster, an artist's conception of VHS 1256 b, the Wolf-Rayet 124 star, and NGC 7469 A Star Wreath.

Mar 17, 2023 • 23min
The Constellation of Draco the Dragon
Did dragons ever really exist? Why is there a constellation of a dragon? Where'd it come from?
On this episode of Good Heavens! Dan breaks down the myths and legends behind Draco the Dragon, the 8th largest constellation in the night sky, Find out about its brightest stars and some of the deep sky objects within and about what Scripture has to say about the dragon of old.
Don't miss this fascinating episode. Sit back, close your eyes, and imagine you're in a state-of-the-art planetarium. If you have some booming home audio surround sound or good car speakers, they will certainly enhance this one-of-a-kind audio theater for the mind's eye!
DISCLAIMER: In our series on the constellations, we are not condoning, endorsing, or encouraging any astrology or horoscope related practices. Stars do not determine one's future or personality. We simply provide a history and overview of the constellations and how they can remind us as Christians of God's glory in Christ. Please see our Watchman four-page profile on the spurious practices and assumptions of astrology written by a former astrologer now Christian.
https://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/astrologyprofile.pdf
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.

Mar 9, 2023 • 21min
Aligned For God’s Glory
See a wondrous alignment of planets at the end of March! Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Uranus, Mars, and the Moon!
What does it all mean for us? Find out on this special episode!
Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.