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Sean White teaches solar and storage classes and seminars around the world and inside your home (online). He is known for helping people get NABCEP certified. This podcast contains an assortment of topics, with an emphasis on solar and storage technical knowledge. Up your game! Catch a photon! Save the planet! Learn more and go to www.solarSEAN.com
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May 12, 2024 • 47min
Richard Lawrence of IREC on Apprenticeships and More!
Richard Lawrence has a long history in the solar industry and is very knowledgeable in many areas (He was formerly the Executive Director of NABCEP among other things). Our main focus of this podcast was apprenticeship programs. This is a big deal, since to qualify for the Inflation Reduction Act 30% Investment Tax Credit (ITC) for projects over 1MW, fulfilling the apprenticeship and prevailing wage standards are required.
Topics covered:
Richard Lawrence career:
IREC Program Director currently 5 years irecusa.org
IBTS 2 years - Institute for Building Technology and Safety
NABCEP Executive Director 3.5 yrs<
Solar (PV) Instructor Training Network Hudson Valley Community College
Topics covered and questions answered:
What is an apprenticeship?
What is prevailing wage?
Union vs. non-union
Is prevailing wage different for different places?
Right to work states (anti-union)
Registered apprenticeship programs
Unregistered apprenticeship programs<
How does someone set up an apprenticeship program?
Who to register an apprenticeship program with, like the DOL (Department of Labor)
Local and federal programs
IRA-apprenticeship - tax credits - pay workers prevailing wage 1MW and up
15% of labor hours requirement
What is IREC doing for apprenticeship and What is IREC
Drama with different unions and non-unions-everyone wants the work
$200k/yr electrician cost
Prevailing wage for small vs. large projects
Can election results take away these benefits
Veterans
California C46 solar license and batteries
Solar PV Instructor Training Network
Hudson Valley Community College
SPI
NYSERDA www.nyserda.ny.gov
Massachusetts Clean Energy Center www.masscec.com
Burnham Energy
AHJ
Multi Junction Technology
Apprenticeship programs.
Solar Energy International
Department of Energy www.energy.gov
Larry Sherwood
Soul Smart Program in Puerto Rico
Zoning laws
Donations
Cod community college
Non-Profit Organizations
SEAC Sustainable Energy Action Committee www.sustainableenergyaction.org
ANSI Standards
Jane Weissman
Solar ABC's www.solarabcs.org
Solar ready veterans network
John Kim
American Battery Factory
IBEW International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers www.ibew.org
UBC United Brotherhood of Carpenters www.carpenters.org
ITC
Eike Weber
Herman Scheer
NREL www.nrel.gov
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

May 5, 2024 • 54min
Cameron Fearey NABCEP PVIP talks about his NABCEP Experience
Cameron works and lives in New York where having a NABCEP PV Installation Professional (PVIP) helps you qualify for the NY State program that helps fund projects.
Here are some of the topics we discuss:
NYSERDA = New York State Research, Energy Research Development Association www.nyserda.ny.gov
NY Sun Program
NABCEP Certifications
Indent Builders www.indentbuilders.com
IBEW = International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers www.ibew.org
3 Pathways
Dobbs Ferry
Best Investment is Education
Heatspring Courses Bundles
NFPA 855
NFPA 70 = National Electrical Code (NEC)
IBC = International Building Code
IFC = International Fire Code
IRC = International Residential Code
ICC = International Code Council
NFPA 70E
OSHA = Occupational Safety and Health Administration www.osha.gov
NABCEP PV Commissioning and Maintenance Specialist (PVCMS) Exam
NABCEP Energy Storage Installation Professional exam = ESIP
NAPCEP Website www.nabcep.org
Professional Directories
Companies directory
Spanish Class
Tim Montague
C&I = Commercial and Industrial
Clean Power Hour www.cleanpowerhour.com
NABCEP PV Technical Sales = PVTS
NABCEP PV Installer Specialist Certification = PVIS
NABCEP PV System Inspector Certification = PVSI
FAA Drone Pilot Class = Federal Aviation Administration https://www.heatspring.com/courses/nabcep-solar-pv-associate-faa-part-107-drone-pilot-exam-prep?aff_id=t3nlgw
UL Certification
120 percent rule for backfeed breaker
NEC 690 Photovoltaic Systems
NEC 690.12 Rapid Shutdown
Italian Class for NABCEP PV Associate
Giulia Suriano<
Check out his website and connect on LinkedIn:
www.indentbuilders.com
Linkedin: Cameron Fearey
Youtube Video Podcast:https://youtu.be/aoeex-QK3bw
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 29, 2024 • 39min
Eicke Weber: Hermann Scheer's 80th BD 4/29/1944 (Scheer founded the solar revolution)
Hermann Scheer (RIP) was a German politician who is responsible for making grid-connected solar profitable in about the year 2000 as he brought the German policy for reimbursing people for solar energy, so that they would make a profit. This brought about years where over half of the World’s installed PV was in Germany. This created the modern solar industry and kick-started modern PV manufacturing. If it were not for Hermann Scheer, we would probably be 10 years behind where we are now with PV
prices and installed capacity. Eicke Weber was a friend of Hermann Scheer and Eicke was also the director of the Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems for 10 years, which is the European equivalent of NREL. Eicke brought Intersolar to San Francisco, he was on UC Berkely Faculty and has done a million other things, while remaining a really nice person. I am proud to call Eicke a friend.
Topics Covered:
Hermann Sheer’s Legacy www.ilsr.org/hermann-scheers-feed-tariff-legacy-75-worlds-solar-pv/
Bill Brooks www.brooksolar.com
Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en
Madam Mi
Fusion
National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) www.NREL.gov
Governor Jerry Brown
California Solar Initiative (CSI)
SNEC World’s Largest Renewable Energy Conference www.pv.snec.org.cn
Nancy and George Lightman
Hans-Josef www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Josef_Fell
Swanson’s Law
Feed in Tariff (FIT)
Sultan Al Jaber
Irena www.IRENA.org
International Solar Energy Society (ISES) www.ises.org
PV manufacturing in China
Deng Xiaoping
IRA
John Kerry
Deng Xiaoping
CO2
PV Technology and Market Developments
Global Shifts in Energy Policy
Clean Tech Business Club www.cleantechbusiness.club
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking
Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 28, 2024 • 1h 11min
Solar Roots with Jeff Spies
Where do we start, in this podcast we covered many things and Jeff Spies is very active and connected in the solar industry.
Here is a short list of what Jeff does and has done:
Owner of Planet Plansets www.planetplansets.com
NABCEP Board of Directors www.nabcep.org/about-us/board-of-directors
CALSSA Board of Directors www.calssa.org
Solar Roots, the Pioneers of PV Documentary, Executive Producer www.solar-roots.com
The Solar Panel Podcast www.linkedin.com/company/the-solar-panel-podcast
Here are some of the many topics we covered:
Solar PV origin in Humboldt and Mendocino Counties in Northern California
Marijuana wars with guns in Northern California: solar using weed growers vs. the Feds
Hippie Definition
Rednecks and Hippies
Hipnecks
AEE Solar
David Katz is a genius
DC Power
Solar Depot
Real Goods
Solar Living Institute
Ironridge
Quickmount
Stuart Wentworth
Claudia Hansen Wentworth
Johnny Weiss
Go Green Solar
Home Power Magazine
Humboldt Country
Nika Show
Oregon Solar Energy Industry
Boogy rough cut version
Plastics
Blue grass
Solar Pioneer Party
Bell Labs
BriceLand, CA
Brian Tittlebaum
Solar PV Magic
Nobel Prize
Solar Pioneers group in Facebook
John Burdner
Brian Teitelbaum
Davey Rittner
Jason Vetterli
Wendy Dankof
Gov. Jerry Brown
Bob McKee
Joseph Marino
Keisha
Johnny Hill
Sam Vanderhoof
Ron Kennedy
John Schaefer
Arthur Rudin
Ezra Auerbach
Richard Perez
Bob O. Schultz
Kathleen Schultz
Mark Moroz
Charlie Gay
Albert Einstein
Edmund Becquerel
Adams and Day
Charles Fritz
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 21, 2024 • 45min
American Battery Factory President John Kem
This is my first interview with a real US Military General and I am honored that he took the time to meet with me. I am not worthy!
John Kem is in the civilian sector now and is the President of American Battery Factory! In this podcast we discuss their huge Gigafactory, which they are building in Arizona and which will go online towards the end of 2025 making made in the USA lithium iron phosphate (LFP) lithium-ion batteries. They are working on prismatic battery cells, which are as big as 1kWh each! In the podcast we talk about the manufacturing processes and how the battery materials are put together in a factory that can produce 4GWh per year of battery cells.
Topics covered:
American Battery Factory
Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP)IRA = Inflation Reduction Act
Army Corps of Engineers
Civil WorksMining
Battery cell production and safety
Investment and manufacturing scale of American Battery Factory
The process and challenges of battery cell manufacturing
Battery factory
American Lithium Mining
Cobalt in the Congo
Gigafactory
Abundance and toxicity of Lithium, Iron and Phosphorous
Big Battery Cell
Folding Cells
Prismatic Battery Cell
314 Ah cells x 3.2V = 1kWh/cell
Half of a shoebox size cell
Bigger is better
Pouch and cylindrical battery cell comparison
Prismatic folding speed increased
Longer cycle life
Fiji Water bottle shape comparison
Chemical Mixing
Anode and Cathode layers
Thin coating
Isotropic graphite = consistent shape
Narrow film
LFP is the cathode
LFP mix in vats
Absorption capacity for ions to flow
Buy pre-mixed LFP
Separator between anode and cathode
Foils
Cans - Aluminum
Food can people making battery can for prismatic battery (cell casing)
Stationary Energy Storage Systems
Smart grid
Underground mining operations
Drag racing and LFP
Range anxiety
Home to GWh ESS
Tax credit survival vs. competitive manufacturing
Made in America with Chinese parts
Smartest people in the world come to America
Energy storage is required for net zero
Investing and buying American Battery Factory
Privately held now
Series A and Series B funding defined
Accredited investors and venture capital
Check out the American Battery Factory website: www.americanbatteryfactory.com
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Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 14, 2024 • 1h 7min
Joe McCabe American Solar Energy Society (ASES) Fellow, historical figure and a lot more!
Joe McCabe has been in the solar industry since before there was a solar industry. In this podcast we talk about many things.
Here is a list of topics:
ASES Fellow
American Solar Energy Society www.ASES.org
International Solar Energy Society www.ISES.org
MREA = Midwest Renewable Energy Association
SMUD = Sacramento Municipal Utility District
PVUSA Davis California
PV Policy
SAM software
PV Reliability Workshop Nerdfest
Golden Colorado
SANDIA
Community Solar Gardens
Bifacial Solar<
Vertical Bifacial produces more than tilted south no matter what the direction
Higher latitude better for vertical bifacial
Vertical bifacial requires smaller wires because of lower Isc
Clipping
Hanging vertical bifacial to swing in the wind.
North facing PV for used PV
PV module size increasing
PV efficiency not important; LCOE (levelized cost of electricity) is important.
Monofacial
Agrivoltaics
Agrisoltaics
Dual use of land
Mark Fitzgerald
Jane Wiseman
IREC = Interstate Renewable Energy Council
NABCEP Entry Level
Praise Ward Bower!
George Kelly
NREL
NABCEP Exam Committees
Photovoltaic effect
Conduction band
Photoelectric effect
Becquerel
Einstein
Quantum mechanics
Thermodynamics
Nuclear engineering
Schrödinger’s equation
Straw bale construction
SERF = Solar Energy Research Facility
SERI = Solar Energy Research Institute
Neutron Scatter
Cadmium rods
Neutron magazine
Smart Inverter Working Group
Dan Shugar
Howard Wenger
PG&E
PV for $9/watt in 90s
Richard Swanson and Swanson’s curve
Colorado Public Utilities Commission
CALISO
California Independent System Operator
BIPV
California Energy Commission (CEC)
Community Solar Garden
Solar Shares
Stupid grid vs. smart grid
Grid following and grid forming inverters
Reactive power
Rule 21 Smart Inverter Working Group
Smart Inverter Classes
Hermann Scherr
Frieberg Germany
Smarter E in Munich (formerly Intersolar)
Intersolar in San Diego and Long Beach
RE+ conferences
Making education fun
University of Arizona Reactor
How PV works
Photons
Grid Forming and Grid Following Inverters
Donating a kidney to Bill Brooks
Freiburg Germany
NABCEP Certification
Energy Ideas
Renewable Energy Steward
Giant Bifacial module
Joe Mccabe recommends Bill Brooks on LinkedIn
Blue light inside a reactor
Integrated Resource Plan (IRP)
Carl Weinberg
Paul Fenn
Community Choice Aggregation = CCA
Eicke Weber
RE+ Texas
Sean Sings ABC 123 at NABCEP Conference
Homework Assignment read: Leverage Points, Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows
Joe McCabe LinkedIn Page
Joe’s email: energyideas@gmail.com
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.heatspring.com/sean

Apr 7, 2024 • 51min
Bidirectional EVs with Alex Cattelan, COO Fermata Energy and UL 9741 EV Power Export Equipment
In this podcast, we learn how UL issues first certification to UL 9741 (and UL 1741 SA) for an AI-Driven Vehicle-to-Grid Compliant EV Charger to Fermata Energy.
https://www.ul.com/news/ul-solutions-issues-first-certification-ul-9741-and-ul-1741-sa-ai-driven-vehicle-grid
Alex Cattelan has been working on EVs for 2 decades and has experience engineering many famous electric and hybrid vehicles, including the Chevy Volt for GM. She also has extensive experience working for Polaris, Johnson Controls and many others.
At the end we decide to go to Burning Man together on a bidirectional electric bus and she is going to teach me how to do wheelies on an electric motorcycle. Nothing can compete with the torque of electric motors, much more than those old fashioned explosion driven motors.
Here are some of the topics we cover:
UL 9741 EVPE (Electric Vehicle Power Export Equipment)
John Deere EVs
AI for EVPE
Software engineering
Drive trains
Electric vehicles
Nissan Leaf
Chevy Volt
Lithium-ion batteries
Hybrid
EPA (U.S. Environmental Protection Agency)
Mechanical Drivetrain
CO2
UL 9741 & UL 1741
VPP (Virtual Power Plant)
Cost Savings
Public utility commission (PUC)
Stationary Storage
Nissan Leaf
Nissan Kicks
Bidirectional charging
Commercial fleets
Bus fleet
Johnson Controls
Pop a Wheelie
Ford F-150
Cyber Truck
Tesla
Developing Software
AI Driven Data Science
Residential bidirectional chargers
Check out Alex on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/alexandra-cattelan-59abbb11
Email: alex.catelan@fermataenegy.com
Check out the Fermata website: https://fermataenergy.com
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean

Mar 31, 2024 • 55min
Garret Little, NABCEP PVIP - Garret just passed his NABCEP exam!!! Celebrate!!!
One week before recording this podcast, Garret Little passed his NABCEP PVIP exam, scoring impressively after nine years since his first attempt. In this episode, we discuss his exam experience, memory techniques, and the differences between the Ecotech and HeatSpring prep classes. Garret shares insights on what’s essential for passing exams and highlights the NABCEP courses available.
Garret also brings his international experience, having installed PV systems in Nepal and Colombia.
Topics Covered:
Exam prep and strategies
NABCEP certifications (PVIP, ESIP, PVA, and more)
Online vs. in-person testing
Memory techniques and learning methods
Insights from Garret’s exam journey
Garret expresses his gratitude to Sean for the impactful HeatSpring courses that helped boost his confidence and knowledge:
This course really covered everything I experienced on the exam and in all honesty, to me it seemed it presented quite a bit more information and material than the NABCEP covered, at least from my experience . For example, I don't think I had one string sizing question, conduit fill, or even conductor sizing with derates (if my memory serves me right). It was not nearly as much calculations as I had anticipated, aside from interconnection calcs, which were all fairly similar.
With that being said, I feel tremendously more knowledgeable than I was even just a few months ago prior to taking this course and I am so thankful for that. Thank you again so much for working with Heatspring on these courses to provide such thorough, entertaining, and educational content. It feels so incredibly good to not only have passed the exam, but to feel that much more educated.
To prepare for any NABCEP exam, check out Sean's online classes at HeatSpring.com/SEAN and explore more at SolarSEAN.com.

Mar 24, 2024 • 55min
derek the solarboi, the TikTok and YouTube Sensation!!
I came across a really cool YouTube video, rivaling Mr. Beast, but for solar, which was a purple bearded solarboi going off on Rapid Shutdown UL 3741 PV arrays, I immediately contacted him and a week later, here we are recording this podcast. This guy is entertaining and we are lucky to have him in the industry. This industry needs to be fun!!
derek the solarboi has 3 NABCEP Certifications
PVIP (PV Installation Professional)
PVCMS (PV Commissioning and Maintenance Specialist)
PVSI (PV System Inspector)
Altogether that looks like:
derek the solarboi, NABCEP PVIP, PVCMS & PVSI
That is a total of 18 letters after his name, making him super special!
We talk about some controversial subjects, including Rapid Shutdown and I always try to be bifacial and take both sides for educational purposes, but encourage my guests to have strong opinions. If you have a strong opinion, let’s get you on the show!
Here are some of the topics we covered:
Other rad solar creators, like Solar Goat (https://linktr.ee/solargoat) and The Solar Slayer (https://thesolarslayer.com/)
Rapid shutdown methods
UL 3741 PVHCS (PV Hazard Control Systems)
Array level rapid shutdown
2019 NEC (serious joke)
NABCEP Certifications
Social media
Water flow in conduit
DC arc faults and ground faults
Ironridge (press release and installation addendum can be found here: (https://www.ironridge.com/2024/02/27/flush-mount-systems-listed-to-ul-3741/)
Sollega
SMA
Residential UL 3741 (solarboi’s video
Peter Greenberg the String Inverter Activist
RE+
Purple
solarboi has decided to remain anonymous for this podcast. This is really cool, my first anonymous guest!
You can see all of solarboi’s links at www.solarboi.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@derekthesolarboi
Mastodon: https://mastodon.energy/@solarboi
TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@thesolarboi
Instagram: https://instagram.com/thesolarboi
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean

Mar 17, 2024 • 48min
Tyler Hortin of Lion Energy-A Lithium-Ion Energy Storage Company
Great conversation with Tyler Hortin! His company does everything from Wh to GWh and focuses on prismatic cells that are almost 1kWh! This makes for less cells and less connections that can go wrong. The technology here is Lithium-Iron Phosphate (LFP) and we will talk about the supply chain and implications of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). They are affiliated with American Battery Factory, so we talk a little bit about manufacturing in the USA towards the end.
Key Words:
Lithium Iron Phosphate
Prismatic Battery Cell
Battery Manufacturing in the USA
How he get the Iron
LPF
Lithium (L)
Iron (FE)
Phosphorus (P)
Great Salt Lake
Battery management system (BMS)
Marine Battery
NMC
Alternator
DC to DC Charger
Shore Power
Energy Storage System
UL 9540 & 9540A
DC Interconnected System
Cabinet size
American Battery Factory
How long does it take to build a battery factory?
Check out Tyler on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-hortin-90469945/
Check out his website:
https://lionenergy.com
Learn more at www.solarSEAN.com and be sure to get NABCEP certified by taking Sean’s classes at www.HeatSpring.com/Sean