
Business Wars
Netflix vs. HBO. Nike vs. Adidas. Business is war. Sometimes the prize is your wallet or your attention. Sometimes, it’s just the fun of beating the other guy. The outcome of these battles shapes what we buy and how we live. Business Wars gives you the unauthorized, real story of what drives these companies and their leaders, inventors, investors and executives to new heights -- or to ruin. Hosted by David Brown, former anchor of Marketplace. From Wondery, the network behind Dirty John and American History Tellers.Listen to Business Wars on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Experience all episodes ad-free and be the first to binge the newest season. Unlock exclusive early access by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts. Start your free trial today by visiting wondery.com/links/business-wars/ now.
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Feb 26, 2025 • 32min
TikTok vs the U.S.A. | A Ticking Clock | 4
In this discussion, Sho-Zi Chu, the CEO of TikTok, navigates the stormy waters of U.S. legislation requiring ByteDance to sell the app or face a ban by January 2025. He sheds light on TikTok's legal strategies to challenge the government and the uncertainty looming over the company's future. The conversation highlights declining user retention and dissatisfaction, the rivalry with Meta, and the shifting political landscape that influences TikTok's fate. Chu also touches on the rallying support from users and the interest of billionaires in acquiring the platform.

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Feb 19, 2025 • 32min
TikTok vs the U.S.A. | Too Big to Fail | 3
TikTok faces intense scrutiny from U.S. lawmakers over data privacy and potential Chinese government access. The app ramps up lobbying efforts, trying to rally its millions of American users against proposed bans. As tensions escalate, TikTok prepares for a legal battle while navigating the complex political landscape. Lawmakers grapple with the challenge of addressing public fears without stifling innovation. The podcast highlights the high stakes and potential consequences for the platform's future in America.

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Feb 12, 2025 • 34min
TikTok vs the U.S.A. | Reeling | 2
TikTok faces mounting pressure from the U.S. government, forcing a potential sale to survive. The fallout from President Trump's executive order brings challenges while a new administration offers a glimmer of hope. With reports questioning TikTok's honesty on user privacy and competition from Facebook intensifying, the platform's future hangs in the balance. This tumultuous period showcases the intricate dance of geopolitics and corporate survival in the social media landscape.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 32min
TikTok vs the U.S.A. | Trending Upwards | 1
In 2018, TikTok burst onto the U.S. scene, quickly becoming a cultural phenomenon, only to find itself at odds with U.S. lawmakers concerned about national security. The podcast explores the app's strategic marketing at VidCon 2019 amidst accusations of censorship and its influence during the pandemic. As TikTok's popularity soared, political tensions grew, leading to fears of potential bans. The ongoing battle highlights the clash between technology and governance, and the complexities of user privacy in an increasingly digital world.

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Jan 30, 2025 • 38min
The Unraveling of Boeing | Landing the Plane | 5
Ed Pierson, a former Boeing senior manager and whistleblower, shares his deep concerns about the safety of the 737 MAX, highlighting internal pressures and cultural issues within Boeing. Sharon Turlip, an aerospace reporter for the Wall Street Journal, assesses Boeing's financial struggles and prospects for recovery amidst stiff competition from Airbus. They discuss the fallout from tragedy, manufacturing defects, and the urgent need for accountability and cultural transformation in the aerospace industry. Will Boeing restore its once-revered reputation?

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Jan 29, 2025 • 35min
The Unraveling of Boeing | Blow Out | 4
Boeing's new CEO grapples with the immense task of restoring trust amid the fallout from the 737 MAX crisis. Internal culture issues and public relations challenges collide as he honors the victims of tragic crashes. Compounded by the Ethiopian Airlines disaster and the pandemic's impact on air travel, the company faces significant financial instability. Legal woes and accountability problems loom large, revealing a complex history of quality control failures. As optimism arises with vaccine distribution, the journey towards recovery is fraught with difficulty.

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Jan 22, 2025 • 35min
The Unraveling of Boeing | Jedi Mind Tricks | 3
Boeing faces a tumultuous battle as it revamps the 737 MAX to compete with Airbus's A320. Challenges in stabilizing the aircraft emerge during rigorous testing, foreshadowing crises to come. As Boeing scrambles to boost production amid safety concerns, the fallout from the Lion Air Flight 610 crash highlights critical flaws in their automated systems. With scrutiny intensifying, the new CEO must navigate the troubled waters of reputation management and regain trust with regulators and pilots.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 38min
The Unraveling of Boeing | Change of Destination | 2
Explore the late 1990s, when Boeing's challenges began to unfold amidst fierce competition from Airbus. Discover the impact of a mega-merger with McDonnell Douglas and the internal pressures that led to production issues. Follow the tumultuous journey under a new CEO facing scandals while trying to restore Boeing’s standing. Witness the innovation of the 787 Dreamliner even as Airbus grapples with major setbacks on the A380. Unravel the complex narrative of crises, competition, and ambition in the aerospace industry.

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Jan 8, 2025 • 47min
Behind the Scenes | 5
Join Gina Keating, author and documentarian on the Netflix vs. Blockbuster rivalry, and sound designer Kyle Randall as they take you behind the curtain. They discuss the creative challenges of bringing market rivalries to life, from impactful storytelling to immersive sound design. Hear about their journey in crafting emotional narratives that connect with listeners. Plus, a lively debate on food preferences leads to fond memories, while they reflect on their bond with the audience.

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Jan 8, 2025 • 34min
The Unraveling of Boeing | The Crash | 1
In 2019, the tragic crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 sends Boeing's reputation into free fall. A malfunction in the MCAS system leads to chaos and tragedy. This event sparks intense international scrutiny over the safety practices of Boeing and the controversial 737 MAX. The fallout includes a global grounding of the aircraft, and significant leadership changes within the company as they struggle to regain trust. The discussion reveals how past decisions prioritized profits over engineering integrity, exposing a deep-seated crisis.
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