
Keep or Kut
The best fantasy baseball leagues don't end when the season ends. Join Chad Young and Pete Ball of Pitcher List as they dive into the world of keeper and Ottoneu leagues. Tips and advice, analysis and insights, all tailored to leagues where you're playing for the long haul.
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Jan 22, 2024 • 1h 10min
K ꓘ 124 - Keeper Valuations for Drafts
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) have to make some keeper decisions for their two listener leagues and are thinking about how to best value keepers in a draft league vs. auction league. ADP, player projections, and more come into play as they outline who they are keeping, what trades they made, and why. Why is Chad keeping Esteury Ruiz? How does Mookie Betts's keeper value compare to other players, given a 1st round price tag? What did it cost Pete to acquire Corbin Carroll?Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Head to factormeals.com/kork50 and use code kork50 to get 50% off.Timestamps4:29 - How do we think about keeper values in drafts with round costs.7:39 - What is the value in keeping a first-round Mookie Betts?11:36 - Chad took three different approaches to value keepers and found three different results.24:41 - Chad’s keepers for Listener League 231:15 - Thairo Estrada vs. Esteury Ruiz, case on both sides35:31 - Pete’s keepers, and why Pete left off Jake Burger42:16 - Breaking down the trades Pete and I made in League 2, starting with Chad moving Nick Lodolo and a 19th round pick for Kyle Harrison and a 21st45:15 - Chad moved down from 3.10 to 4.5 to add Kerry Carpenter48:06 - Pete gets the fifth pick in the draft, plus an 8th rounder and a 14th rounder, but had to give up Kyle Bradish, Brayan Bello, Shane Baz, Kyle Manzardo52:38 - Pete gets a 21st for Hunter Greene and Chad moves down a bit to get Alec Bohm55:29 - Sneak peek of league 1 decisions and tradesSubscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Jan 8, 2024 • 1h 8min
K ꓘ 123 - First Year Auctions
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) talk all things Ottoneu First Year Auctions. From what players Pete and Chad might want to be targeting, to their favorite formats on Ottoneu, this episode serves as a nice starter kit for first year auctions. Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps3:16 - The Michael Brantley Episode!8:55 - Starting up an Ottoneu league: format options, settings, and scheduling an auction20:08 - First year auction strategies28:41 - Who are Pete and Chad targeting to provide their team with some financial flexibility because the price seems right? Chad starts things off with Josh Naylor and Vinnie Pasquantino. 35:52 - Pete isn't so excited about any particular player in this regard, but he wants to be opportunistic at attacking particular tiers for certain positions. 43:23 - Who are the pitchers Pete wants to attack? One of the top 7!45:53 - Chad seems to have some tepid interest in Carlos Rodón to bank some value in auctions. 50:55 - Chad shares his Top 20 overall rankings for Ottoneu points leagues, and a conversation about the tiers follows. Is Mike Trout still a top 20 player? 1:00:58 - Shohei Ohtani... how are we valuing him? Is being UTIL-only too detrimental to roster construction? Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Dec 30, 2023 • 1h 13min
K ꓘ 122 - ADP Values for Keeper Leagues
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) look through NFBC ADPs to find players who you should be picking for your keeper leagues. These six players may or may not be good values at their ADP for redraft, but they are primed to breakout and be more valuable next year than they are this year, making them ideal keeper league targets. Plus, they ask some questions based on recent MLB transactions.Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps3:22 - News and Notes Questions, starting with Mitch Garver to the Mariners and what that does to his C ranking10:51 - If Yuki Matsui is the full-time closer for the Padres, does he move into your top 15 closers?16:57 - Stop worrying about how good a team your closers are on - it doesn’t really matter.23:00 - Are the Jays a team you can stream SP against?27:44 - Looking at guys who are keeper league values at current NFBC ADP, and Chad sees one last chance to buy into Vlad Guerrero, Jr.34:23 - Pete wants in on Oneil Cruz, Chad is more cautious until he starts to look at the alternatives at SS43:50 - Chad tries to get Pete feeling more positive about Mastaka Yoshida52:16 - Pete tries to get Chad to look beyond Edward Cabrera’s walks1:02:50 - Carlos Rodón will be moving up boards in the spring1:07:06 - The price on Eloy Jiménez has dropped far enough to flip the script from bust to valueSubscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Dec 23, 2023 • 57min
K ꓘ 121 - Ottoneu Mock Auction
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) discuss the recent mock auction they were a part of on Couch Managers. The conversation kind of turns into a bit of a discussion about position depth this upcoming draft season, particularly at OF, SP, C, and 3B.Check out the results of the mock here: https://www.couchmanagers.com/auctions/?auction_id=656Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps6:39 - Discussion about the mock auction begins! What stood out?7:52 - Chad is not a fan of a $46 Corbin Carroll13:30 - Outfield feels pretty bad, thin, and top-heavy this draft season16:20 - Catcher, on the other hand? Weirdly deep!23:19 - Chad spent $57 on the (second) newest Dodger - Shohei Ohtani32:11 - Pete focused on pitching, but Chad wasn't convinced it was a great rotation. What's the deal with SP this year?41:51 - What about 3B? How is that looking going into draft season after last year's panic over the position?47:18 - Finally, how did middle infield look?50:35 - Zero MLB experience, but pricy players: $18 Jackson Holliday, $36 Yoshinobu Yamamoto, $13 Wyatt Langford, and $14 Jackson Chourio. Of those four, who would you want the most?Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Nov 27, 2023 • 1h 19min
K ꓘ 120 - Inflation
Keep or Kut - Chad (@chadyoung) is joined by two guests to talk inflation in keeper leagues. Justin Vibber, creator of the Ottoneu Surplus Calculator, and Adam Scharf, who recently wrote a paper on inflation in Ottoneu, go from 101 (what is inflation and how does it impact leagues) to some more nuanced discussion of how thinking on inflation needs to evolve so we can be smarter fantasy players.Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps8:10 - What is inflation and how does it impact both auctions and drafts in keeper leagues?14:57 - Inflation can change who you think about as a keeper.27:12 - The benefits and risks of trying to predict what your leaguemates will do.37:13 - The risk of over- vs underestimating inflation.44:29 - Adam recaps his paper and discusses the implications if we are under-calculating inflation.58:19 - Is there an inflation curve across the value spectrum?Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Nov 24, 2023 • 1h 43min
Bonus K ꓘ - Chad Young's 2024 Mock Draft w/ Nick Pollack
Keep or Kut / On The CornerNick Pollack reviews Chad Young's 2024 Mock Draft. Chad picked from the 12th spot in this draftHead to factormeals.com/kork50 and use code KORK50 to get 50% offFull Draft Board"League" info:Standard Yahoo H2H Category 5x5 scoring format12-teamer, 23 roundsC, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3 OF, 2 UTIL, 9 P, 4 BenchOne-Way Ohtani (two separate players for DH and SP)Chad's picks:1 - Shohei Ohtani (Hitter)2 - Spencer Strider3 - Bo Bichette4 - Zac Gallen5 - Matt McLain6 - Jordan Walker7 - Eury Perez8 - Emmanuel Clase9 - Josh Naylor10 - Riley Greene11 - Jorge Soler12 - Alexis Diaz13 - Shane Bieber14 - Wyatt Langford15 - Isaac Paredes16 - Kyle Harrison17 - Braxton Garrett18 - Kenley Jansen19 - Trevor Rogers20 - Ricky Tiedemann21 - Justin Turner22 - Esteury Ruiz23 - Francisco AlvarezHosts: Nick Pollack | Chad GreenProducer: Adam HoweSubscribe: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | RSSJoin: PL+ | PL ProProud member of the Pitcher List Podcast Network

Nov 13, 2023 • 1h 10min
K ꓘ 119 - Surprising Ottoneu Arbitration Recipients
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) dive into Ottoneu arbitration. They go through the three leagues they compete against each other and look at who has received arbitration allocations that they wouldn't have expected. From prospects being hit too early in their careers to pitchers and the additional risk they carry, there are some good lessons about how to allocate your arbitration, as well.Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps6:25 - Starting with the Podcasters League (1443), we are looking at Cole Ragans15:15 - CJ Abrams had a bigger breakout than Chad realized.20:09 - Are we ready to push up the salary on Elly de la Cruz?31:45 - Moving to the Keep or Kut listeners league (1372) and feeling good about Triston Casas.35:43 - But not as good about Jackson Holliday getting $6.48:10 - Finishing up with the FanGraphs Staff League (13) which had fewer surprises but did feature some pitchers - Pablo López, George Kirby, Kyle Bradish - getting pushedSubscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Oct 30, 2023 • 1h 20min
K ꓘ 118 - PL Mock Update
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) break down the PitcherList mock that they are in the middle of, viewing it from a keeper league perspective despite it being drafted as a re-draft league. Interested in playing in this league? Let one of the hosts know! We have a few spots open for next season.Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps11:55 - After discussing how their respective fantasy seasons ended up, Chad and Pete start discussing the PL Mock 2024. Click here to see the Draft Board.15:01 - Pete breaks down his start to the draft after taking Matt Olson 10th overall and José Ramírez 15th. Does the top of drafts in 2024 look deeper than ever before?19:00 - Chad selected the 12th pick to lock up two of the top 13 players. He went with Shohei Ohtani (hitter) and Spencer Strider.22:53 - Chad took Zac Gallen over Zack Wheeler, Luis Castillo, and Corbin Burnes. Was that the right move? Drafting pitching for 2024 looks to be a bit of a headache.32:58 - Where are we at with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. after his... fine (?) 2023?38:33 - Who would you prefer to have a better price on in a keeper league: Jordan Walker or Matt McLain?56:30 - Is Spencer Torkelson that different from Christian Walker? How does he stack up against Guerrero Jr., Walker, and Paul Goldschmidt?1:16:15 - Is attacking ace starting pitching early in drafts the right move for 2024?Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Sep 27, 2023 • 1h 23min
K ꓘ 117 - Picking Keepers in Ottoneu
In this podcast, the hosts discuss their fantasy baseball standings and their thoughts on selecting keepers. They delve into rotation setup and the value of getting a couple of starts. They also analyze the strategy for selecting keepers in the Ottoneu format, focusing on relievers and pitchers. The hosts evaluate potential keeper options in the outfield and discuss the performance of catchers Salas, Hoppy, and Nailer. Additionally, they explore the cost of promoting players and the impact on their arbitration salaries, and share their experiences attending memorable baseball games.

Sep 20, 2023 • 1h 34min
K ꓘ 116 - Early Look at Keepers
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) are starting to look at off-season decisions, including their keeper choices in their Keep or Kut listener leagues. They go over some of their toughest choices, analyzing players who will force difficult decisions in the coming months.Join Pitcher List Plus and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast.Timestamps1:02 - Before looking at the off-season, a quick look at the stretch run and fantasy playoff matchups, where Chad has to pick two of Hyun-jin Ryu, Nick Pivetta, and Gavin Williams to start.12:30 - Time to turn our attention to keepers.14:12 - Starting with Chad’s League 1 Roster, and his four most obvious keepers: Tyler Glasnow, Michael Harris II, Tanner Bibee, and Spencer Steer.19:26 - At one point, Luis Robert Jr. was one of those obvious keepers, even for a 2nd rounder, but is he now?22:42 - Masataka Yoshida is causing the same kind of issue later in the draft.28:51 - Pete’s obvious league 1 keepers are George Kirby for 26th, Devin Williams for 15th, Francisco Alvarez for 14th, and that leads us to the saga of Chas McCormick.35:32 - Piling up last-round keepers forces some interesting decisions.38:24 - Is the talent enough to justify keeping Mason Miller?42:42 - How cheap is cheap enough for Kris Bryant? Plus Pete has some fun rookies and another interesting closer in Kyle Harrison, Evan Carter, and Camilo Doval.48:30 - In League 2, Chad is already thinking about what pick he wants, as it impacts the value on keeping Mookie Betts in the first.54:44 - And that impacts some other tough calls at MI in Ezequiel Tovar, Andres Gimenez, Thairo Estrada, Xander Bogaerts, Justin Turner, and Zach Neto 1:01:40 - Meanwhile, Chad's minor leaguers are a debacle1:09:47 - Pete’s team starting has Oneil Cruz (as does his team in league 1), but what is a good keeper cost for Cruz?1:13:27 - Grayson Rodriguez is one of Pete's favorite keepers1:21:53 - Pete’s insane pitching upside might force a trade for offense1:24:23 - Pete’s minor league decisions on Gavin Williams, Pete Crow-Armstrong, Termarr Johnson, Kyle Manzardo, and Robert Hassel III, plus a really tough call on Anthony Volpe.Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | Google Podcasts | RSSConnect: Twitter |
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