

Keep or Kut
Chad Young, Pete Ball
The best fantasy baseball leagues don't end when the season ends. Join Chad Young and Pete Ball of Pitcher List as they dive into the world of keeper and Ottoneu leagues. Tips and advice, analysis and insights, all tailored to leagues where you're playing for the long haul.
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Oct 3, 2022 • 1h 11min
K ꓘ 77 - Tough Players to Value Pt. 2
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) continue down a list of players who they think will be hard to value going into 2023 drafts. This time around there are no pitchers, but quite a lot of outfielders. From the seemingly zapped power of Ronald Acuña Jr. to the extremely up-and-down season of Seiya Suzuki, Chad and Pete touch 'em all.
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Timestamps:
1:27 - Seiya Suzuki has had a roller coaster of a debut season. Regardless, Chad thinks that the final result is most likely reflective of what we should expect next season. Pete is holding out hope it could get better, but wants to see some improvement in that lineup.
12:03 - Tyler O'Neill was a major let down for folks this season. Chad found something odd about pitches in the heart of the plate, and Pete thinks the ban of the shift could help O'Neill after looking at his wOBA vs the shift in comparison to his wOBA with no shift.
28:40 - What happened to Ronald Acuña Jr.'s power? Him or Aaron Judge for 2023?
39:28 - Jesse Winker is turning 30, still can't hit lefties, and might be in a crowded outfield, so Pete thinks he is out on him. After doing some reading by author Michael Ajeto, Chad thinks Winker's issue could be mechanical.
46:53 - Pete is blaming any of his losses on Ketel Marte (completely unfairly, but man was he high on Marte!). Chad acknowledges the long period of time where Marte posted an elite wRC+, so maybe there is hope, but also wonders if the balls negatively impacted Marte.
54:35 - Chad and Pete want Joey Gallo to go some place that will be low-pressure and result in everyday at-bats.
1:02:03 - Taylor Ward's wRC+'s by month are crazy. Could his shoulder have prevented him from a monster season, making him a great buy in 2023 drafts?
1:05:45 - Is Oneil Cruz solving his strikeout issues, or are they still too shaky and the position too deep? Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 11min
K ꓘ 76 - Tough Players to Value
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) discuss players whose seasons just aren't that easy to interpret and who are therefore tough to value for the future. With keeper decisions around the corner, plus draft season coming, these are the guys we expect to keep us up at night.
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Timestamps:
2:02 - Plan to discuss players whose value is hard to lock down for next year.
2:55 - Kris Bryant, the Coors Field power outage, and 181 surprisingly good PA.
11:43 - The Trevor Story Roller Coaster.
17:37 - Is Jack Flaherty still living off 2019?
27:31 - Lucas Giolito's awful season.
38:48 - Are we worried about Juan Soto?
44:47 - Nick Castellanos misses home.
52:51 - Maybe Frankie Montas does, too.
59:18 - Paul Goldschmidt re-enters the 1B top 5.
1:02:50 - Is Nate Lowe far behind?
1:05:07 - Alex Bregman isn't in the top five, but who is ahead of him? Bobby Witt Jr.? Gunnar Henderson?Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 19, 2022 • 1h 11min
K ꓘ 75 - Late Season Targets
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) take a look at players who might be available in your leagues - whether in free agency or through an off-season trade - that may be worth targeting as you prep for the 2023 season in your long-term leagues.
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Timestamps:
6:50 - Pete is enamored with Nathaniel Lowe's elite second-half.
16:40 - David Villar is only 12.6% rostered on Ottoneu, but that isn't stopping Chad from targeting him in his leagues.
23:28 - How do we view Oneil Cruz while on one hand, his Brl% is over 15%! But, on the other, his K% is up near 38%.
30:27 - Nick Gordon has been swinging a hot bat and providing a lot of fantasy value despite an unspectacular success rate on the bases.
37:28 - The humidor in Oakland has Pete getting a little more interested in Seth Brown.
42:54 - Chad likes both Lane Thomas and Gavin Sheets, especially the former given that Tony La Russa might finally be out of town.
53:00 - Simply put: the hosts can't quit Blake Snell.
58:54 - Chad likes what he is seeing from young Arizona arms Drey Jameson and Ryne Nelson.
1:01:45 - Despite probably never becoming the closer, Pete still likes Alex Vesia.
1:03:34 - Pierce Johnson has returned and looked good.Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 12, 2022 • 1h 2min
K ꓘ 74 - The Impact of MLB's New Rules
Keep or Kut - The new rules don't go into effect until 2023, but for your keeper leagues, they start impacting player values now. Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) look at the shift ban, pitch clock, larger bases and limits on pick-offs, discussing and debating the fantasy impact, plus their thoughts on whether the rules are good for the game.
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Timestamps
1:18 - A quick look at where Pete and Chad stand in their leagues as we enter the final month
6:29 - The shift rule and its impact on hitters who pull the a lot of grounders
20:14 - No shifts means a premium is placed on defense, particularly at 2B, which will impact the player pool
24:20 - Will the shift ban be good for the game of baseball?
26:41 - Comparing the new pitch clock to existing tempo data and wondering how this will impact SP, especially veterans
33:53 - Looking at the fastest and slowest working pitchers today
40:56 - Will the pitch clock be good for the game of baseball?
46:24 - The bigger bases and limits on pick-offs will increase stolen bases, particularly for guys who already steal a lot
55:07 - Will the pitch clock be good for the game of baseball?Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 29, 2022 • 1h 5min
K ꓘ 73 - Trades and Surplus with Justin Vibber
Keep or Kut - Chad (@chadyoung) is joined by Justin Vibber (@justinvibber), creator of the Ottoneu Surplus Calculator, which you can find at his Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/vibbot). Chad and Justin talk about surplus, trade deadline deals, and a couple of case studies to help think through trade decisions.
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Timestamps
2:08 - What is the Surplus Calculator, why does it matter, and how does the concept of surplus matter in fantasy baseball?
8:33 - Justin answers our regular question: what are the unique rules you use in your keeper leagues?
16:20 - Surplus is associated with the off-season, but how does it impact your thinking this time of year?
19:31 - Case Study #1 - Looking at Chad's situation in Ottoneu league 32
24:22 - Is surplus the only consideration for you as a seller?
28:18 - Thinking about H2H trades vs. season-long points or roto
32:05 - Reliever strategy in h2h vs. best ball
37:14 - The importance of SP depth in H2H
41:02 - Trading George Kirby for two SP?
45:28 - How league context drives trade decisions
49:15 - Case Study #2 - A big trade for Jacob Degrom, the importance of leverage in trades and targeting unique players you can't replace.Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 22, 2022 • 1h 13min
K ꓘ 72 - Trade Deadline Mailbag
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) answer trade deadline mailbag questions!
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Timestamps
1:53 - @beckryac asks about a rebuild and, specifically, what he should do about his abundance of 3B. Particular focus is placed on the value of Anthony Rendon, Patrick Wisdom, and Brett Baty.
11:32 - @KevinColin12 is wondering what the return should be for high-end prospects. Cash in or sit on them? Is George Springer enough of a return for top prospects?
18:36 - @ldavidjm had a question about minor league spots and how they impact a prospect’s value. A conversation about prospects in general follows, and a discussion about whether or not a $2 Gunnar Henderson and $2 Corbin Carroll should be traded for an $80 Jacob deGrom.
26:19 - Francisco Álvarez is struggling a bit at Triple A. Pete is thinking about how he values catchers, especially prospect catchers, in fantasy baseball.
33:21 - @vikabot1 wants to know if he should move Nick Pratto for a reliever and if it makes sense to “stash” relievers in Ottoneu points leagues.
40:12 - @HammiltonPorter has a $31 Pete Alonso, $12 Josh Bell, and a $3 Vinnie Pasquantino. He’s wondering if he should sell one of them for some starting pitching help.
46:05 - @orangefire_ is also choosing which first baseman to trade out of José Abreu, Christian Walker, and Pasquantino.
52:53 - @brittonallan wants thoughts on a Corey Seager and Tommy Pham for Alexis Díaz, David Bednar, and Tarik Skubal trade.
1:02:34 - Chad is making a ton of moves in his leagues, but trading Luis Robert for Jordan Walker and Taj Bradley is not one of them. What about Aaron Ashby, Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 15, 2022 • 1h 8min
K ꓘ 71 - Ottoneu Trade Deadline Preview
Keep or Kut - With trade deadlines fast approaching, Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) talk about some recent trades they have made, the types of players they are targeting, and when it's okay to sell, even if you look like a contender.
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Timestamps
1:25 - Letting the market dictate if Chad buys or sells, then swapping a $5 Aaron Ashby for $2 Alec Burleson and $1 Juan Yepez, plus a stashed Jordan Lawlar for $1 Kyle Muller and $3 Ken Waldichuk.
11:16 - Breakdowns on Burleson, Yepez and Ashby - after which Pete started an auction for Burleson in the listener league
15:53 - Chad acquires a $34 Manny Machado from Pete for $2 Miguel Vargas and $1 Darick Hall
21:30 - What about a league with no buyers? What if a “contender” wants to sell, especially in roto where winning can be all-or-nothing?
29:15 - It's a different situation in H2H with playoffs - just get in
34:25 - Chad acquires a $52 Mookie Betts, $16 Mike Clevinger, and $1 J.D. Davis from Pete for $7 Ke'Bryan Hayes, $5 Alex Kiriloff, and $9 Jarred Kelenic, but maybe didn't solve his biggest problem
42:15 - Pete explains the return and we break down those three players: Hayes, Kiriloff, and Kelenic
50:30 - How to handle elite RP in Ottoneu 4x4 plus philosophy on trading for RP in general, inspired by a $13 Edwin Diaz
59:59 - The types of players we target when selling
1:04:48 - The types of players we target when buyingGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 8, 2022 • 1h 19min
K ꓘ 70 - Trade Deadline Reactions
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) go through the many, many moves from the trade deadline, including some teams that opened up playing time for certain players by moving others away
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Timestamps
3:09 - The Eric Hosmer acquisition should not impact Triston Casas’ timeline
11:38 - Andrew Benintendi and Harrison Bader probably won’t see much, if any, of a boost to their offense. However, Yankees pitching could see a boost with a much more formidable outfield defense going forward.
19:25 - Jordan Montgomery went the other direction in the Bader trade, and things are looking up for his value.
23:00 - Tyler Mahle has escaped Great American Ballpark!
27:26 - Is Jose Barrero worth a flier or is his strikeout rate too brutal?
35:40 - Not sure there is a lot to say about it in regards to fantasy, but Juan Soto has a new home.
38:15 - Joey Gallo heads to Hollywood. Don’t forget about him!
42:06 - J.D. Davis, now in the Bay, finally has some playing time to show off his ridiculous average exit velocity.
47:42 - Trey Mancini is already tearing it up in his new threads.
51:46 - Pete is hopeful that Ken Waldichuk will make his way to the Majors this season but Chad is unsure about it.
58:54 - Jorge López, Josh Hader, Taylor Rogers, and Raisel Iglesias all have new homes, and in some cases, new jobs. Interesting conversation about Iglesias in Ottoneu follows.
1:07:15 - Play time has opened up for the speedy Michael Massey in Kansas City, who has also hit for some power this season.
1:12:56 - Frankie Montas heads to the Bronx and Chad is upset.
1:15:40 - Could Francisco Álvarez be on his way to the Majors soon?Get PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 5min
K ꓘ 69 - Trades We Want to See
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) speculate on trades that could happen - but probably won't - that would boost fantasy value for key players. A new defense for Luis Castillo, limiting the park downgrade for Frankie Montas, finding a home for Xander Bogaerts, getting Sean Murphy out of Oakland, and more. Plus, we are required by baseball media law to offer our thoughts on Juan Soto.
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Timestamps
0:17 - Chatting about the Guards and Sox, narratives around the AL Wild Card, and Run Differential
7:57 - Teeing up our trade proposals
8:55 - Luis Castillo to the Cards
14:10 - Teams besides the Reds with weak defense, and the pitchers they should move
16:24 - Frankie Montas to the Mariners, whose soft schedule would be good for him - or anyone else they may have traded for after we recorded
22:48 - Xander to Houston?
34:33 - Sean Murphy to Mets
42:30 - Some thoughts on where Juan Soto could land and how he could free Miguel Vargas
52:08 - LIGHTNING ROUND! Ideas tweeted by our listeners, plus some quick thoughts on Joey Gallo, Tyler Mahle, Pablo Lopez, Jazz Chisholm, Nathaniel Lowe, Trey Mancini, and Jorge LopezGet PL+ and join our community: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 25, 2022 • 60min
K ꓘ 68 - Buy Lows
Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) run through four hitters and two pitchers that they think are strong buy-low candidates as we enter the final stretch of the fantasy season and leagues crawl towards their trade deadlines.
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Timestamps
1:05 - Post-All Star Game talk
8:55 - Pete thinks Byron Buxton is a good second-half buy-low. Chad isn’t convinced he is a “buy-low.”
19:14 - Chad thinks you should go buy Tarik Skubal.
28:55 - Pete’s seeing some changes in Ranger Suárez’s pitch usage that may return some value in the second-half.
34:52 - Could Ke’Bryan Hayes be a strong buy-low?
41:50 - Jorge Soler’s injury happened after this episode recorded! Sorry! But if he does return shortly from this back injury (unfortunately, based on what has been said, that seems unlikely), the information should hold up.
45:55 - Might be a long-shot, but the underlying numbers on Cavan Biggio suggest more power is coming. Chad convinces Pete that he’s a solid buy-low.
55:36 - An interesting keeper league rules question that reared its head in the Keep or Kut Listener League #1.
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