The Security Table

Izar Tarandach, Matt Coles, and Chris Romeo
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Jan 8, 2025 • 35min

Hovercrafts and the Evolution of AppSec in 2025

Hovercrafts and application security in the new year. We revisit last year's predictions on Quantum LLM, SBOMs, and whether DAST tools will make a comeback. With humor and forward-thinking, we explore what the future might hold for application security, the rise of new technologies, and even the outlandish idea of AppSec being dead. Episode mentioned:AppSec Resolutions - January 9, 2024FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Dec 11, 2024 • 29min

Find Your Conferences and watch Die Hard. And the Princess Bride.

What makes a conference truly valuable? Is it the unexpected connections and serendipitous meetings of minds, or the chance to break free from the "security echo chamber" by exploring diverse conference experiences? We discuss the considerations that make conferences worth attending and examine whether they are compelling enough to warrant personal investment. Whether large or intimate, each conference provides a distinct journey of learning and interaction.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Dec 10, 2024 • 43min

Is it Necessary? Not everything requires an LLM

We debate the necessity and efficiency of LLMs in finding code vulnerabilities in a C library compared to traditional static code analyzers and fuzzing techniques. The conversation explores broader topics in application security testing, including the evolving landscape of Dynamic Application Security Testing (DAST), fuzzing, and the potential of emerging technologies like Application Detection and Response (ADR).FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Nov 13, 2024 • 41min

The STRIDE Controversy: Evolution vs. Extinction in Security Models

We discuss a controversial LinkedIn post claiming "Threat Modeling is Dead." While the STRIDE methodology may need updating, it remains a valuable "gateway" tool for teaching security concepts to developers without security backgrounds. We discuss how STRIDE serves as a useful categorization system, emphasize that dogmatic approaches to threat modeling are problematic, and argue that what matters most are results rather than strict adherence to any particular methodology. Our conclusion; STRIDE is still alive and relevant, but it could benefit from an update to demonstrate its continued applicability.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Nov 7, 2024 • 45min

Why 100X Isn't the Answer

A good discussion today covering two different articles, the first covers CISA's list of product security "bad practices", questioning whether it provides real value or is just content marketing. Then the discussion moves onto an article about Shift Left. The group debates whether it is truly more expensive to fix design flaws versus implementation bugs, noting the difficulty of quantifying the cost difference. They argue that the focus should be on providing proper training and incentives for developers to build secure software, rather than just adding more security tools. Articles discussed in the episode:Product Security Bad PracticesShift Left Pushback Triggers Security Soul SearchingFOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Oct 23, 2024 • 28min

We'll Be Here Until We Become Obsolete

This week we explore the multifaceted concept of obsolescence in technology, detailing its planned, unplanned, and forced forms. We delve into the security implications of outdated or unsupported devices and software, with a spotlight on cloud-connected vehicles and their vulnerabilities. We discuss architectural decisions, regulatory requirements, and real-world incidents like the OnStar hack, reflecting on the need for robust security protocols. FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Oct 16, 2024 • 30min

Everything is Boring

The hosts tackle the pervasive sense of boredom in the cybersecurity landscape. They delve into the lingering threats of ransomware and the complexities of corporate governance and compliance. The importance of routine security tasks is emphasized, suggesting these may provide deeper insights and innovation. Additionally, they explore the diminishing excitement around AI in security, while advocating for a more integrated approach within organizations to better manage risks.
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Oct 9, 2024 • 44min

Experts Want to Excel

What constitutes an expert in the field of threat modeling? Today Matt, Chris and Izar explore cultural references, the intricacies of threat modeling practices, and the criteria that define an expert. The discussion touches on the evolution of threat modeling, the roles of facilitators, and the importance of experience and recognition in the field. The guys humorously debate the challenge of scaling practices in large organizations and share thoughts on how expertise can inspire others. Enjoy this amusing episode complete with tangents on movies, old media technologies, sports analogies, and competitive Excel.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Sep 18, 2024 • 32min

Numb to Data Breaches, and How it Impacts Security of the Average Feature

In this episode of the Security Table with Chris Romeo, Izar Tarandach, and Matt Coles, the team dives into the evolving landscape of modern security approaches. They discuss the shift from strategy to tactics, the impact of data breaches, and why people are becoming numb to such incidents. The episode also touches on the importance of understanding the business side of security and the role of product managers as security champions. FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!
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Sep 11, 2024 • 29min

Philosophizing Cloud Security

In this episode of the Security Table, our hosts discuss the concept of the 'Shared Fate Model' in cloud security. The conversation explores how this model builds on the shared responsibility model and the implications for cloud service providers and consumers. From robust default security measures to the historical evolution of ISPs, the discussion covers technical and philosophical aspects of cloud infrastructure security. Join us for an informative and engaging session filled with the past and present of internet connectivity and cloud service security.FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!

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