
Between Now and Success
Host Steve Sanduski, CFP® is the founder of two financial services companies, a New York Times bestselling author, podcast host, executive coach, and speaker. Through interviews with top achievers and visionary voices, Between Now and Success brings you the strategies, tips, and tools you need to succeed at the intersection of business and life. In each episode, Steve's guests open up and share their journey and the lessons they learned on their road to the summit. So rope up and get "On Belay" as we climb the summit to success together.
Latest episodes

Apr 13, 2020 • 1h 5min
Shattering the Silicon Valley Entrepreneurial Myth and Uncovering the Soul of an Entrepreneur with David Sax
In a Nutshell: Silicon Valley unicorns make the billion-dollar headlines, but the true measure of an entrepreneur's success is how you align your business with your goals, your lifestyle, your values, and the impact you make in people's lives. Guest: Author, journalist, and speaker David Sax. His new book, The Soul of an Entrepreneur: Work and Life Beyond the Startup Myth, approaches entrepreneurship from a broader, more personal, and more realistic perspective. My Key Takeaway: To define success for yourself as an entrepreneur: Accept that your business isn't Amazon or Facebook. You don't have to become a billionaire to be successful. Be yourself. The misfit eccentric who dropped out of high school and skateboards to the boardroom in a hoodie is the exception. Successful bakeries, salons, restaurants, and, yes, financial advisory firms are run by hardworking people like you who have a dream and put a plan in place to achieve it. Set purposeful but personal business targets. Don't try to grow like everyone else is. Build the business that you want to run. Also Learn: How to "get over the hump" of not seeing yourself as a real entrepreneur. Why taking on loans or third-party investments to accelerate your growth might hurt your business more than it helps. What seeing Heidi Klum on the cover of Maxim taught David about the unrealistic expectations our country sets for entrepreneurs. The process David uses to write his books.

Mar 30, 2020 • 57min
Bonus Episode: Redefining Wealth with Seth Streeter
Seth Streeter is the CEO and founder of Mission Wealth, a leading wealth management company with more than $2.5 billion in assets under management. Seth was an early proponent of our industry's shift into Life-Centered Planning, and I could listen to him talk all day about how advisors can help folks redefine what wealth and happiness really mean. Recently I heard an episode of the Wellness Revolutionaries podcast in which Mindbody co-founder Blake Beltram talked with Seth about this concept of redefining wealth. Their discussion was so insightful that I reached out to Blake, and he's been kind enough to let me share this episode here. Some of the topics Blake and Seth cover include: Why Seth believes money counts for only 10% of a person's wealth. Seth's 10 Dimensions of Wealth and 7 Dimensions of Wellness. How the values of a new generation of workers are reshaping the classic American Dream. How to help retirees develop a "Life 3.0 Vision" based around the freedom to pursue passions, strengthen relationships, and build their legacies. Preparing your business for the paradigm shift Seth sees in how our culture views money and defines wealth. Thank you Blake and Seth for letting me post this episode.

Mar 23, 2020 • 36min
How This Barron's Hall of Famer Leveraged Workplace Workshops to Build a 10-Figure AUM Business with Scott Tiras
In a Nutshell: Hard work, a deep love for his clients, and a niche working with retirees of a particular company led this advisor to the pinnacle of the profession. Guest: Barron’s Hall of Famer Scott Tiras, President of Tiras Wealth Management, which is a private wealth advisory practice of Ameriprise Financial Services. Scott has more than 30 years of experience as an advisor. Currently he manages around 700 family relationships and more than $1.5 billion in assets. My Key Takeaway: To create an experience that makes clients feel like they’re your only client: Identify your “bread and butter client,” meaning the people to whom you can bring the most value over time. Focus your pitch and your value proposition on what Scott calls “the soft side of retirement” — the things clients and prospects will be retiring to, not just their raw numbers. Challenge yourself and your team to excel. Scott channels his competitive energy into running a world-class business. You need to find a similar motivation and drive to deliver “hall of fame” service and keep growing. Also Learn: 1. How Scott targets a local company niche with on-site workshops that demonstrate his expertise and lay the foundations for strong relationships. 2. How Scott leverages his team of 16 to support him and personalize the relationship building touches that keep his clients connected to the business. 3. What Scott does to build his brand and play an active role in his community so that he has a noticeable, positive presence.

Mar 9, 2020 • 53min
3 Customer Experience Triggers That Drive Growth, Loyalty, and Referrals with Joseph Michelli
In a Nutshell: A "wow" customer service experience meets clients needs, engages customers on terms that gel with their lifestyle, and creates genuine human connection. Hitting those check marks is what separates Ritz-Carlton, Starbucks, Zappos, and the best financial advisory firms from the rest of the pack. Guest: Joseph Michelli, a bestselling author, an international speaker, an organizational consultant, and one of the world's leading authorities on how to develop joyful and productive workplaces with a focus on the customer experience. My Key Takeaway: To give your clients a "Ritz-Carlton" advisory experience they'll be sure to tell their friends about: 1. Don't strive for excellent customer service. Seek perfection. The companies that try to deliver better service tomorrow than they did today are the ones that build the priceless brand loyalty that sets them apart from their competition. 2. Focus your client experience around addressing "peaks and pains." Find small ways to celebrate big wins with clients that your planning helped them achieve. Use your financial expertise and your human empathy to mitigate painful moments -- like, say, a sudden market downturn after a global virus outbreak. 3. Make the most out of every face-to-face interaction you have with a client. Your most effective marketing doesn't happen in Facebook ads or on a billboard. It happens when a client is in your office getting five-star treatment from the moment they walk in the door. You won't have to ask your clients for referrals -- you'll be earning them. Also Learn: 1. Why you wouldn't take a first date to McDonald's and what that says about good service vs. great hospitality. 2. How to integrate your tech stack with your advisory team to create elevated customer experiences on a consistent basis. 3. What Joseph Michelli learned about world-class customer service and team leadership from Howard Schultz, Airbnb, and Mercedes-Benz.

Mar 2, 2020 • 33min
Bonus Episode: Enhancing Your Discovery Process by Becoming a Better Biographer with Mitch Anthony
On this special bonus podcast episode, I'm doing something I've never done before: republishing someone else's podcast. I think you're really going to enjoy this episode of the Top Advisor Marketing Podcast, hosted by Matt Halloran and featuring guest Mitch Anthony. This was a really fun listen for me because I go back a long way with both of these guys. Matt was one of the best coaches we had when I was running Peak Advisor Alliance. And Mitch is my business partner in ROL Advisor, our online platform that's helping advisors refocus the planning conversation on people's lives, not just their money. And that idea is at the heart of Mitch's conversation with Matt. They do a real deep dive into how advisors can use the discovery process to reveal the client's story and understand how significant life experiences have shaped the client's relationship to money. In addition to discussing how ROL Advisor builds out that initial storytelling into an engaging client experience, Mitch and Matt also talk about: How to guide clients towards an empowering decision-making mindset that makes them feel more in control of their planning. What kinds of questions you can ask to help clients connect their means to a sense of meaning. Why dialogue is more powerful than monologue. What the true purpose of money is. How to get more comfortable and more adept at helping clients manage the emotional side of financial life transitions. How to pull all of the above together to create a value proposition that's truly valuable to clients and prospects. A big thanks to Matt Halloran and the team at Top Advisor Marketing for letting me share this insightful conversation.

Feb 24, 2020 • 44min
Building a Billion-Dollar Advisory Firm One Relationship at a Time with Laila Pence
Where does the drive come from for top achievers who keep knocking it out of the park long past the point that many of us would have kicked up our feet and called it a career? That question has fascinated me for decades and today's podcast guest, Laila Pence, CFP®, shared with me one of the most compelling stories I've ever heard about overcoming early life challenges to become one of the country's most successful and respected financial advisors. As we talked at the Barron’s Teams Summit in Las Vegas, Laila also explained how her approach to overcoming some incredible personal hardships informed how she built her billion-dollar advisory firm with an intense focus on creating true, lasting relationships with her clients. Laila Pence is the President of Pence Wealth Management, one of the nation’s leading private wealth management firms with over $1.0 billion in AUM. She’s currently ranked in the top 1% of female financial advisors nationwide and, in 2019, she was named among the top 6 female financial advisors in the country by Forbes, and the #38 top independent financial advisor nationally by Barron’s Magazine. Forbes also ranked Laila #1 on their Best-in-State Wealth Advisors List for Southern California in 2019.

Feb 10, 2020 • 51min
Grow Faster by Solving the Needs of a Niche in a Unique Way with Steve Wershing
In a Nutshell: All financial advisors deliver services and advice. The ones who are growing their businesses find creative ways to stand out in an increasingly crowded marketplace and attract a niche of clients they can offer the most value to. Guest: Steve Wershing. Steve is the President of The Client Driven Practice and the author of Stop Asking for Referrals. He's also the cohost of a great podcast called Becoming Referable. My Key Takeaway: To differentiate both your firm and your prospective client base: 1. Discover, design, develop, and declare your niche. 2. Craft a unique client experience that will cater to your ideal client. 3. Remember: a niche is a need that sets your clients apart, and a need that you are able to service in a unique way. Also Learn: 1. Why separating "target" from "niche" is essential to transforming your business. 2. How simple tweaks to things like your meeting calendar can have a big impact on your niche client experience and drive up your value to clients. 3. What kinds of dialogues you can have with clients that will lead to referrals ... without you having to ask for them.

Jan 27, 2020 • 51min
Creating a Remarkable Client Experience Through Personalization, Co-Creation, and Journey Mapping with Julie Littlechild
In a Nutshell: Delivering great service is table stakes. Drive toward extraordinary by creating a unique, emotionally engaging experience for each individual client. Guest: Julie Littlechild. Julie is a leading expert on the drivers of client engagement. She's also the cohost of the Becoming Referable podcast and the author of the book The Pursuit of Absolute Engagement. My Key Takeaway: To create an engaging client experience that becomes a magnet for new ideal clients: Be intentional about designing a discovery and planning process that engages your clients emotions and makes them feel more connected to you. Focus less on a prospect's assets and more on how they view themselves, then deliver an experience that is tailor made for who they are. Draw a distinction between service and hospitality ... and excel at both. Also Learn: 1. Why creating a client journey map should be an essential early step in thinking about your systems and services. 2. How to put your firm and its ideal clients to an "Authenticity Test" that will make you think about what you're really trying to accomplish as an advisor and as a business owner. 3. What it means for advisors and their clients to "co-create" a financial planning experience together.

Jan 13, 2020 • 52min
Leveraging AI to Automate 30 - 40% of Your Mundane Tasks
In a Nutshell: In 2020, the most successful advisors have moved past worrying about "competing" with technology. Instead, they're finding ways to automate the 30 - 40% of the mundane tasks that are necessary for relationships but don't enhance them, so that they can focus on the human conversations that create real lasting value -- and more business. Guest: Matt Reiner, CFP® CFA®, the cofounder and CEO of Benjamin, "the world’s first A.I. assistant created for advisors by advisors." My Key Takeaway: Used properly, AI can do things human advisors don't need to be doing so that we can focus on things AI can't do, like: Build better relationships with our clients. Coach our clients on financial matters so that they make better decisions and feel more in control of their futures. Help clients clarify what their money is for and live their best life possible today, not just in retirement. Also Learn: 1. Why you need to start thinking about technology -- and AI in particular -- as your partner, not your enemy. 2. How an AI platform can help keep your margins and expenses under control during a burst of high growth. 3. What nuts and bolts integration and training looks like when you decide to add an AI component to your tech stack.

Dec 30, 2019 • 25min
My 3 Words for 2020
A single word or a short phrase could permanently change your life. When you were young, a teacher may have said something to you that forever altered how you viewed yourself—good or bad. Maybe a parent said something that still sticks with you today. Or perhaps a former boss made a comment that drives you nuts to this day—I’m in that boat! In a similar way, this “My 3 Words” exercise I learned from Chris Brogan is designed to empower you with 3 words that drive your actions and keep you on track to make this your best year ever. This is the sixth year now where I’ve begun the year by identifying 3 words that will set the course, give me direction, and totally excite me as I move through the year. I write these words at the top of my Daily Outcomes sheet and look at them daily throughout the year. The premise is simple. Pick 3 words that motivate you, remind you, and guide you on your road to making 2020 your best year ever. I encourage all my clients to do this and I encourage you to do this same exercise as it will help you stay focused on the most important outcomes for the year.
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