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How many people can draw a line in their lives that connects living in the West Bank, yacht racing around the world, doing polar expeditions, and becoming the CEO for a highly successful technology firm? Probably one - and this week, he joins me on the All Things Risk Podcast to talk risk, digital media, leadership, and much more. Meet Tony Haile, founding CEO of Chartbeat (www.chartbeat.com), explorer, adjunct Professor, and many other things. The things that Tony has done may, at first glance, seem disparate and unrelated. However, as you'll soon grasp, the way that Tony looks at them, they are completely connected. One of the threads that runs through Tony's endeavours is around risk and risk-taking. Tony has for instance, applied many lessons from his polar expedition days to the world of tech start-ups. Chartbeat, the company Tony led as CEO for seven years is similarly an interesting story - not only because it went from start-up to market leader in its field, but also for what it does. Chartbeat helps media companies understand how its audience engages with content (as opposed to the blunt instrument of measuring clicks and page views). Tony's work at Chartbeat revealed that in spite of the click bait economy of which we are a part, there is a massive demand for thoughtful and nuanced content. We talk about this, including the future of digital media and investigative journalism in part of this episode. This all makes for a fun, wide-ranging and very insightful conversation that I am certain you will not only enjoy, but also take away some practical things you can use. We cover: Tony's background, including studying International Relations and living in the West Bank Palestinian territory; Polar expeditions and working with explorer and endurance athlete Ben Saunders; Lessons in risk management Tony took from the world of yacht racing and polar expeditions and applied to the world of tech start-ups - this part of the conversation will perhaps challenge any preconceptions you might have about tech entrepreneurs being risk-seeing mavericks prone to recklessness; Chartbeat - what it does and how he helped make it a success; Lessons from his time as a CEO; The state of digital media; The future of investigative journalism; Book recommendations - Tony is a avid reader and lists the books he as read each year on his website (www.tonyhaile.com) - this led to an interesting discussion on genes and transhumanism (although we did not have enough time to cover this properly!) And much more! Show notes: Tony's website - www.tonyhaile.com Tony on Twitter: https://twitter.com/arctictony Tony on Linkedin: http://bit.ly/2c7fb7E Chartbeat: https://chartbeat.com/ Tony's article in Time Magazine "What You Know About the Web is Wrong" - http://time.com/12933/what-you-think-you-know-about-the-web-is-wrong/ Feature on Tony and Chartbeat in the Columbia Journalism Review: http://www.cjr.org/innovations/tony_haile_chartbeat.php Ernest Shackleton - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Shackleton Ben Saunders - http://www.bensaunders.com/ The Scott Expedition: http://scottexpedition.com/ Control Risks: www.controlrisks.com Article "What ISIS Really Wants": http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ The Last Lion 3 by William Manchester and Paul Reid (although also check out 1 and 2): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/746673.The_Last_Lion_3?from_search=true The Gene: An Intimate History by Siddharta Mukherjee: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27276428-the-gene?from_search=true ________________ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.co.uk - and find all episodes and ways to subscribe

This is just a short in-betweenisode in which I look ahead to our exciting autumn line-up and make a few announcements about the show. Enjoy the rest of your summer and check in for the next full episode on Sept 6th! Also, if you are wondering about how to get the show on you Android device but don't know how, there are several ways. You can download and listen to the show on any of the following apps: Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Spreaker: http://www.spreaker.com/show/the-all-things-risk-podcast Tunein: http://tunein.com/radio/The-All-Things-Risk-Podcast-p869339/ Acast: https://www.acast.com/allthingsrisk Or any one of the apps here: http://subscribeonandroid.com/feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:119601698/sounds.rss And check out our new website (shh - still a secret!): www.allthingsrisk.co.uk

Do you ever feel like our organisations are trying to chisel fine sculptures with blunt instruments? This could be a company pursuing a cost-cutting drive at the expense of innovation and growth, a public policy that aims to solve last year's problem instead of dealing with future challenges, or an education system transfixed on improving test scores at the expense of deeper education. The world is complex, nuanced and much like one of this show's running themes, interconnected. The world is digital, and yet, many of our approaches are analog, particularly in the realm of public policy. Fortunately, there is a better way to look at the world that embraced uncertainty and complexity. It's called systems thinking and my guest today is an expert in this field. Michele Battle-Fisher is a professor in the Department of Community Health at Wright State University in Ohio, USA. She is also the author of a book called "Application of Systems Thinking to Health Policy and Public Health Ethics: Public Health and Private Illness". She is fun and engaging and we have a very nutrient dense conversation that covers: Michele's background and systems thinking origin story that involves a 5th grade speech contest; What systems thinking is and why it is useful for dealing with uncertainty and risk; Public policy, sub-optimal outcomes and predicting public behaviour; Health and the challenges associated with creating and meeting health targets (including an example from her book that looks at HIC amongst teens); Artificial intelligence (AI); Donald Rumsfeld's famous quote on "known unknowns" and "unknown unknowns"; "policy puffins" How we can all become better systems thinkers And much more! Show notes: Michele's archived blog: orgcomplexity.wordpreess.com Michele's scholarship webpage: mbattlefisher.wix.com/orgcomplexity Michele's book- Amazon- https://www.amazon.com/Application-Systems-Thinking-Health-Policy/dp/3319122029/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470658466&sr=8-1&keywords=michele+battle-fisher Springer (publisher) http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783319122021 Twitter @Mbattlefisher LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/mbattlefisher Facebook author page @michelebattlefisher HumanCurrent podcast @Letsworkhappy http://www.human-current.com Design4Emergence magazine @d4emergence @gabbleduck (editor- Stacy Hale) design4emergence.com LinkedIn Groups: System thinking network (formerly Systems Thinking World) UK Systems Society SNA for health Systems Thinking & System Dynamics Practitioners Global Network Select Research Institutes and Systems Focused Organizations: Sante Fe Institute santafe.edu Complexity Explorer (Sante Fe Institute) www.complexityexplorer.org Donella Meadows Institute www.donellameadows.org Bertalanffy Center for the Study of Systems Science http://www.bcsss.org/ International Society for the Systems Sciences http://isss.org Rethink Health rethinkhealth.org/ Waters Foundation www.watersfoundation.org System Dynamics Society systemdynamics.org/ Donald Rumsfeld Documentary http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2390962/ A few recommended books to introduce systems thinking: Meadows, D. (2008). Thinking in Systems- a primer. Chelsea Green: White River Junction, Vermont. Mitchell, M. (2011). Complexity: a guided tour. Oxford : New York. Kadushin, C. (2012). Understanding Social Networks. Oxford: New York. Caldarelli, G. & Catanzaro, M. (2012). Networks- a very short introduction. Oxford: New York. Holland, J. (2013). Complexity- a very short introduction. Oxford: New York. Watts, D. (2003). Six degrees- the science of a connected age. Norton: New York. Barabasi, A-L. (2010). Bursts- the hidden patterns behind everything we do, from your email to bloody crusades. Plume: New York. Barabasi, A-L. (2014). Linked: How Everything Is Connected to Everything Else and What It Means for Business, Science, and Everyday Life. Basic Books: New York. Booth-Sweeney, L. & Meadows, D. (2010). The Systems Thinking Playbook. Chelsea Green: White River Junction, Vt. ______________ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

In this in-betweenisode, I offer a "yin and yang" perspective on intelligent risk-taking. "Think Big" is a about finding an aspiration, vision or goal that based on deep meaning and will keep you motivated during times of adversity. "Start Small" is all about taking practical steps towards that goal. Show notes: Pablo Casals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Casals "The Black Swan" by Nassim Taleb: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Swan-Impact-Highly-Improbable/dp/0141034599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471474779&sr=8-1&keywords=the+black+swan __________ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

I thoroughly dislike New Year's resolutions because in the vast majority of cases, they fail. So, I think it is highly appropriate that we have an episode in August that revolves around the themes of health, wellness, resilience improving performance and becoming a better version of yourself by a measure of 10x. Today's show discusses all of these things and much more without relying on the clichéd and popular methods we hear about that ultimately do not work. My guest is Hari Kalymnios. Hari is a keynote speaker, trainer, author, Tedx speaker, executive coach and many other things. He is all about helping people become what he likes to call "super leaders". He owns a leadership training company here in London called "The Thought Gym" (thethoughtgym.com) and has a very interesting background. We have a wonderful conversation that covers: Hari-s interesting background including how he got into training and coaching; Things he learned from studying high performers; Mental strength Building energy; Food and nutrition; Daily rituals Adopting new and positive habits sot that they stick; Fixed versus growth mindsets; Risk and intelligent risk-taking; The power of consistency and loads more! Show notes: Hari's website: harikalymnios.com thethoughtgym.com Hari's Tedx talk "Unlock Your Inner Superhuman": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQWGgO4pWy4 Hari's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/thethoughtgym Hari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thethoughtgym The Thought Gym on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheThoughtGym/ Hari's book "The Thought Gym": https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thought-Gym-Train-mind-follow/dp/1481966294/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470868480&sr=8-1&keywords=the+thought+gym Joseph McClendon III: makeyourfate.com Book "The Ph Miracle": https://www.amazon.co.uk/pH-Miracle-Balance-Reclaim-Health-ebook/dp/B00FOSA8M8/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1470868538&sr=1-1&keywords=the+ph+miracle _______ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

Imagine cycling up and over the Andes mountains in Ecuador and Peru (a few times), into the Amazon, across the desert in Bolivia, then into Paraguay and finally Argentina, finishing in Buenos Aires. Sounds pretty gruelling, doesn't it? Now let's add a twist: do this on no money, nothing. Well, that is exactly what my guest Laura Bingham recently accomplished. Laura is an adventurer and very recently completed this epic journey. I had the pleasure of speaking to her about it all on this episode of the show - and you will have the pleasure of listening to it! This was an amazing conversation that I am sure you will enjoy and from which get plenty of inspiration and advice, regardless of whether or not you are into cycling or travel. Laura and I discuss: Her background, which includes teaching in Mexico and sailing across the Atlantic Ocean back to her native England; The origins of her idea to cycle across South America; How it worked - how she found food, places to stay, and navigated several challenges; Mental strength, including overcoming difficult periods; Some of the highlights of the adventure; Advice for anyone looking to meet a challenge; Tarantulas, armadillos, and chicken dinners; Much much more! Show notes: Laura's website: www.laurabingham.org Laura on Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurabingham93 Laura on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laurabingham93/ Laura in Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurabingham93/ Operation South America: http://www.operationsouthamerica.org/ Motivational Madness on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/viralrescue The All Things Risk Podcast Episode 2 - Martian Cioana: http://allthingsrisk.libsyn.com/ep-2-martian-cioana The Transcontinental Race: http://www.transcontinental.cc/ __________________________________ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

People love to hear expert predictions and forecasts during times of high uncertainty and volatility. Many of these are wrong - with an important exception. In this this short episode, I discuss why we should embrace nuance ("shades of grey") and how to do so. Show notes: Future Babble by Dan Gardner: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Future-Babble-Expert-Predictions-Believe/dp/0753522365/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469049168&sr=8-1&keywords=future+babble "Science Says There's a Surprising Way to Change People's Political Views": http://uk.businessinsider.com/surprising-way-to-change-political-opinions-2016-6?utm_content=buffer487d3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer?r=US&IR=T "Rise of the 'alta-male'": http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/rise-of-the-alta-male-the-new-priorities-of-men-in-2016/ _______________ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

Risk management needs an overhaul. It needs to join the 21st Century. Daniel Wagner and Dante Disparte's new book Global Risk Agility and Decision-Making: Organisational Resilience in the Era of Man-Made Risk not only discusses why this is the case, but also provides a great road map of how to achieve it. This week, Daniel joins me as the first guest to make a re-appearance on the show. He discusses many of the book's themes and we have a fascinating conversation that I felt could have gone for hours. We talk about: Brexit - while I never want to date any of my episodes, I thought I'd be re-miss not to tap Daniel's expertise on country risk management and spend some time getting his take on Britain's recent referendum; The Anthropecene Era and man-made risks - we spend some time talking about climate change in particular, but the book also discusses things like terrorism and cyber risk; Where risk management goes wrong for organisations - short-termism, greed, etc.; Risk agility; Systemic issues like corruption and vested interests in global politics; Organisations "having a conscience"; Individual and organisational leadership; Disruption Common sense and much more! It is a wonderful conversation that I am sure you will enjoy! Show notes: the book's website: http://globalriskagility.com/ Find the book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Global-Risk-Agility-Decision-Making/dp/1349948594/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468324654&sr=8-1&keywords=global+risk+agility Daniel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/countryriskmgmt Dante Disparte on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ddisparte Daniel's company, Country Risk Solutions: http://countryrisksolutions.com/ __________________________ Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

What is it about travel? Why put yourself in positions of almost pure uncertainty in foreign lands? What is about not knowing what a place is going to be like that is so wonderful? To explore these and other topics, Hayden Lee joins me today. Hayden is the host of a show called "The Travel Stories" podcast. Hayden is also a musician (he was the bassist for a band called Lazarus Mode), sound technician, and many other things. He is also loads of fun and a great story-teller. This was a fantastic conversation with some great stories, loads of laughs, and some wonderful insights. We get into: •Hayden's background – he is the "son of a hippie mom and a biker dad" •His experience picking up and moving to Australia with all but $300 to his name •Going back to England a few years later via Asia •Three of Hayden's "I almost died" stories •Motorbiking in the Mekong Delta •What makes travel so wonderful •Uncertainty, taking risks •And loads more! Show notes: •Check out Hayden's show, "The Travel Stories Podcast": http://travelstoriespodcast.com/ •Follow Hayden on Twitter: https://twitter.com/travelstoriesuk •Check out his show's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/travelstoriespodcast/?fref=ts Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com

This is an in-betweenisode in which I offer some thoughts on the recent UK referendum to leave the EU (Brexit), and how to respond to greater uncertainty caused by changes in our external environments. Did you like this episode? Subscribe to the All Things Risk podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it on social media: Subscribe and/or leave a rating and review on iTunes: http://apple.co/1PjLmKh Subscribe on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/all-things-risk/the-all-things-risk-podcast Subscribe on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ben-cattaneo Follow the podcast on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RiskThings Drop us a note: allthingsrisk@gmail.com Visit: www.allthingsrisk.com