

The Art and War Podcast
@CBRNArt on IG
Nonsense shouted into the void, from the guys that brought you CBRNart. Join Nathan, B.R, Lucas and Phil for some unsolicited opinions about gun culture, government and well, everything.
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Dec 26, 2021 • 2h 35min
025: The Evolution of Gun Culture Ft. Garand Thumb and Isaac Botkin
Mitch and Nathan have a very special show with our first returning guests this week, both Mike AKA Garand Thumb and Isaac Botkin of Trex Arms both come back on the podcast to chat about the evolution of gun culture and ponder where we’re going next! The group covers everything from knowing your audience when it comes to shooters and the utility of the many different groups within the firearms community, the merits of utilizing advancements in tech vs going more primitive with your skillset and why there’s room for both, the slow move away from military experience being the only qualifier for shooting knowledge, what comes next for gun rights and the decaying organizations of past our grandparents kept alive with their checkbooks? and much much more on (and off) the topic of how we should keep on pushing for the spread the decentralization of firearms, small unit tactics, bushcraft etc. knowledge, and the accompanying civilian rifleman culture!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Isaac on Instagram here!
Check out Isaac's personal website here!
Check out Garand Thumb on his new Instagram here!
If you've lived in a cave your whole life, you can find Garand Thumb on YouTube here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
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https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
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Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
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Dec 19, 2021 • 1h 57min
024: Pat Watson from Uncensored Tactical - Dogs, Bureaucracy, His New Book, and Being a high Speed Coastie
This week, Pat Watson, former Tier 1 Coastie and Law Enforcement Officer turned Voluntaryist, K9 trainer, lock picking instructor, author and podcaster joins the lads to discuss his background and subject matter expertise. Pat is also on the show to share his outlook on bureaucracy and the harmful impact it has on human happiness in the workplace and otherwise which he covers in his new book, 'Fuck Bureaucracy'. Mitch and Pat also discuss their working dogs, both from Fortress K9 in Florida, what it was like training with Joel (Owner and trainer of Fortress K9), the unique mindset and philosophy behind their training, the incredible impact their dogs have had on their lives and the ability they have to defend their owner and family.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Pat Watson on Instagram here!
You can check out his website here!
'What makes a Government a Government? Episode 123 of Uncensored Tactical' as mentioned by Mitch.
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
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Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
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Dec 12, 2021 • 1h 45min
023: Delta Magna - *Not* Suffering for Art
This episode, Mitch and Nathan are joined by Delta Magna, a freelance illustrator, to discuss leaving the corporate world to pursue what you love, being a freelance artist and how to quit underselling your work, fine art vs modern digital art, why she just wants to be treated like 'one of the guys', her influences including Metal Gear Solid, the surprisingly toxic world of fandom fan art, writing fan fiction and developing worlds with her boyfriend who is also an artist and much more! Also, Nathan 'Ted posts' twice. There is no controlling him.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Delta Magna on Instagram here!
You can check out her website here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Dec 5, 2021 • 1h 55min
022: The Jay Situation of Pew Science LLC
Joining the lads this week to talk science and silencers is Jay, the founder and engineer behind Pew Science LLC. Jay provides testing for silencers to provide a reliable, unbiased standard for the consumer, which has ruffled some feathers in the industry. He talks about some behind the scenes with why he does what he does, where his expertise comes from, how his work provides both positive and negative interactions with various parts of the gun industry, how he is able to fund his research and where that money comes from, if he’ll ever expand to testing other gear (body armor etc.) and how he hopes the silencer market will only improve as consumer knowledge of what makes for a quality suppressor.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Pew Science on Instagram here!
You can find PewScience.com here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Nov 28, 2021 • 2h 1min
021: Mike and his Thumbs (Garand Thumb)
This week, Flannel Daddy, AKA Mike AKA Garand Thumb himself joins the lads to chat about what got him into guns and shooting, his first firearm purchase, the Magpul Dynamics training DVD’s, Mitch discusses how Garand Thumb has become a powerpoint presentation example for how NOT to talk about certain Federal Agencies while in uniform and Mike touches on what that looks like from his side, his brief time as a Reservist Seaman before becoming a full time Airman, the gang take a deep dive into the Garand Thumb journey so far, why bushcraft is important and Mike shares some info on his upcoming survival series of videos and much much more!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Garand Thumb on his new Instagram here!
If you've lived in a cave your whole life, you can find Garand Thumb on YouTube here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Nov 21, 2021 • 2h 47min
020: B.R The Anarch - We just bully our production manager for two hours
To celebrate 20 episodes of the show, our producer and editor, B.R The Anarch (AKA B.R Hates Feds or Bloody Revolutions), joins the lads to discuss everything from their plans to 'start a cult' and homestead together and the growing culture behind intentional communities, a Brit talks about the 'American spirit', civilian riflemen and the importance of bringing that culture back, Anarchism and the dangers of the government and their power, how the Pentagon investigated itself for the recent war crime of drone striking an aid worker and children and finding itself guilty of no wrong doing, we get meta and talk about what it's like editing for Mitch and Nathan, the fate of the B**gal** movement and why it was time for people to move on, Uncle Ted and much much more!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out B.R on Instagram here!
Check out B.R's substack, TheAnarch.Substack.com here!
If you liked B.R's rambles, you can hear him on 'The eMilitia Podcast' and his weekly show 'The B.R Hates Feds Show' every thursday!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Nov 14, 2021 • 1h 49min
019: Isaac Botkin - T.REX, Nerdiness and Community
This week joining the lads is Isaac Botkin, designer at T.REX Arms! The group discuss making connections via the gun industry, Isaac talks about life before T.REX arms and his previous career working in the TV commercial industry, growing up with a dad working in the political ad space in D.C. and why all the Botkins have videography knowledge, the history of how T.REX Arms came together, the lads and Isaac talk positive and negative interactions on social media and processing useful and useless critique. Also covered: Veterans of the Second World War and Vietnam, how the Botkins were homeschooled and the growing trend of parents homeschooling, people moving away from larger systems to figure things out on their own, Nathan and Isaac get into some nerdy engineering talk and much, much more!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Isaac on Instagram here!
Check out Isaac's personal website here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Nov 7, 2021 • 1h 45min
018: Rob from Operation Doggo Drop
This week, Rob from Operation Doggo Drop joins the lads discuss some background on what his charity does to put service animals with Veterans who need them the most while sparing them the financial burden and how his ties to the gun industry have helped him accomplish this. He also shares some background on being a reddit moderator for one of the biggest tactical pages on reddit, r/tacticalgear and the group discuss ‘sexy’ training like CQB vs more practical knowledge like bushcraft, gun culture evolving, building community shoutout to Drew Hopkinth (Not Hopkins) on IG concerning the great micro-rig debate, and much more!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Operation Doggo Drop on Instagram here!
You can also check out their website here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Oct 31, 2021 • 2h 19min
017: Orion Training Group - Bureaucracy, Leadership and Door Kicking
In this episode, the lads sit down with Jared, founder of Orion Training Group and former SWAT Officer and patrol cop. The group discuss his background on how he grew up around guns and law enforcement and how he joined himself, how he got into SWAT and some background on how his team worked, Mitch and Jared talk leadership challenges and Mitch shares a story on his worst soldier ever, Jared discusses a raid an alphabet agency sent him on that heavily influenced him to leave law enforcement and he shares the first training class event that birthed the concept for Orion and the development of what they do. Also discussed: Moving out of the military/law enforcement world and finding value outside of that identity and world, bureaucracy and how it inhibits effectiveness of a unit, Nathan shares more on his experience with the Canadian military and much much more in this 2 hour+ show!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Orion Training Group on Instagram here!
You can also check out their website here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!

Oct 24, 2021 • 1h 46min
016: Leah of the Woods
In this episode, the lads are joined by Leah of the Woods and discuss how she ended up with an H&K as her first gun, the absurdities of gun laws and FFL transfers in the US compared to Canada, how ‘R.B.F.’ has saved her from being sold crap at gun stores, early gun ownership, modeling for photographers, what SHOT Show is like, the climate with gun control in Virginia, the increasingly uncertain situation the US finds itself in between news outlet propaganda and an increasingly divided population, getting out in nature, survival knowledge and educators and much more!
Links mentioned in this episode:
Check out Leahofthewoods on Instagram here!
Check out our Patreon here to support what we do and get insider perks!
Follow the lads on IG:
https://www.instagram.com/cbrnart/?hl=en
Follow the lads on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/CBRNDad
Check out our sponsors:
Use code: ARTANDWAR10 for $10 off an SMU Belt at AWSin.com
Use code: ARTANDWAR5 for $5 off any belt at Applied Gear.com
Check out our link tree for the rest of our stuff!