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Presilience: A Leadership Framework for Thriving in Crisis and Uncertainty with Dr. Gavriel Schneider In today’s volatile and uncertain world, resilience is no longer enough. Leaders must learn how to thrive before a crisis hits. In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by Dr. Gavriel Schneider, an internationally recognized expert in security, risk intelligence, and leadership under pressure. Gav is the creator of the Presilience framework, a proactive approach to leadership that helps individuals and organizations turn disruption into opportunity. We explore why traditional risk management and compliance models fall short in today’s VUCA environment, and what leaders must do differently to sustain high performance during uncertainty, disruption, and crisis. Gav shares real-world lessons from decades of advising governments, critical infrastructure, and global organizations, along with insights from psychology, decision-making, and high-performance leadership. If you’re leading a team, running a business, or navigating constant change, this conversation will challenge how you think about resilience, risk, and leadership. In this episode, we discuss: What presilience is and why it matters now The difference between surviving disruption and thriving through it How leaders make better decisions under pressure Why resilient organizations require resilient people Turning risk into opportunity in a complex, digital world Leading with confidence when certainty is gone About today’s guest: Dr. Gavriel Schneider is the CEO of the Risk2 Solution Group, a former program director in the psychology of risk, and the author of Presilience: How to Navigate Risk, Embrace Opportunity, and Build Resilience. He has trained thousands of professionals worldwide in crisis leadership, risk intelligence, and decision-making. 📘 Learn more about Presilience: Links to Gav’s book, website, and resources are below. https://risk2solution.com/ https://amzn.to/3Y6AHzS 🎧 Subscribe to Deep Leadership for weekly conversations with experts who help leaders think clearly, lead confidently, and build organizations that thrive—especially when things get hard. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How to Build Real Influence as a Leader with Brad Englert How do leaders build real influence that lasts, not just connections that fade? In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by Brad Englert, author of Spheres of Influence and former CIO at the University of Texas at Austin. Brad shares decades of leadership experience on how authentic relationships, not transactional networking, are the true foundation of influence, trust, and long-term success. We talk about why most networking events fail, how leaders should think about their internal and external spheres of influence, and why trust must be built before a crisis hits. Brad also explains how getting out of your office, meeting people where they are, and genuinely caring about their success can transform your leadership and your career. This conversation is packed with practical leadership lessons, real-world stories, and a simple message every leader needs to hear: real influence is earned through consistency, humility, and relationships that endure. In this episode, we cover: What real influence looks like in leadership Internal vs. external spheres of influence Why traditional networking doesn’t work How trust and reciprocity are built over time Leading with authenticity, care, and intention You can learn more about Brad Englert, get a free sample of his book Spheres of Influence, and explore his work - https://bradenglert.com/podcast If you found this episode valuable, subscribe and share so we can continue to build a world with better bosses. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Unlocking Hidden Potential: The Leadership Shift That Transforms Teams In this episode, Jon Rennie sits down with executive leader, entrepreneur, and author Ernesto Gomez to uncover why so many organizations operate far below their true capacity — and what leaders can do to change that. Drawing from 30+ years of experience in the food service and consumer goods industries, Ernesto shares practical insights on culture, mindset, and talent development that help unlock the hidden potential inside teams. If you lead people, coach leaders, or want to build a high-performance culture, this conversation is full of ideas you can apply immediately. You’ll learn: • Why most teams only operate at about 50% of their potential • The leadership shift from push to pull motivation • How culture and mindset drive innovation and engagement • What “talent density” means and why it matters • Four keys to building high-performance teams • How young leaders can grow and stand out in their careers Ernesto’s new book Regrowth breaks down how organizations can overcome stalling by unlocking their people. It’s a powerful framework for leaders who want more creativity, ownership, and results from their teams. 📖 Get Ernesto’s book: Regrowth - https://amzn.to/44IpetS 🌐 Connect with Ernesto - https://aspenmindset1.com/ LinkedIn: Ernesto Gomez - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-g%C3%B3mez-arzapalo-8783ab43/ If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe and share it. It helps us build a world with better bosses. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Project Management Mistakes Leaders Make and How to Fix Them with Clint Padgett In this episode, I’m joined by Clint Padgett, Navy veteran, accomplished CEO, best-selling author, and one of the most respected voices in project management today. Clint has spent more than 30 years helping global teams deliver high-stakes projects, from Coca-Cola’s Olympic activations to massive international initiatives across industries. We break down the common project management mistakes leaders make — and more importantly, how to fix them. Clint explains why people avoid real conversations, how miscommunication derails timelines, and why shifting the “worry curve” is the secret to avoiding last-minute chaos. His insights on conflict, culture, accountability, and team ownership will change the way you think about leading complex work. If you’ve ever wondered why your projects feel harder than they should, or why your team struggles with clarity and follow-through, this conversation will give you practical tools you can use immediately. In this episode: Why teams avoid conversations that matter How small misunderstandings turn into major failures The truth about conflict and why you need it How to shift the “worry curve” and eliminate last-minute panic Why people—not software—make or break your project How leaders can build clarity, accountability, and commitment Connect with Clint Padgett: Project Success: https://www.projectsuccess.comClint Padgett: https://www.clintpadgett.com If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe and share it. It helps us build a world with better bosses. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Self-Leadership: The Essential Strategy Most Leaders Forget In this episode, I sit down with wellness pioneer and author Bija Bennett to explore a simple truth: you can’t lead others well if you’re not leading yourself. We talk about why so many leaders burn out, how constant digital noise disconnects us from our own thinking, and why slowing down isn’t indulgent—it’s strategic. Bija shares powerful ideas on self-awareness, emotional clarity, and what she calls “analog wellness,” practical habits that help you stay grounded, focused, and effective for the long run. If you’re feeling stretched thin or struggling to find space to think as a leader, this conversation will give you a fresh, much-needed reset. Listen in and learn:• Why self-leadership drives long-term performance• How stillness and silence improve decision-making• Why awareness, not hustle, is a leader’s biggest advantage• How to break the burnout cycle and lead with clarity Connect with Bija Bennett: Bija Bennett's website -> https://www.bijab.com/ Bija Bennett on Instagram -> https://www.instagram.com/bijab/?hl=en Bija Bennett on LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/bijabennett/ Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lead with Hospitality: The Secret to Inspiring People in Any Workplace with Taylor Scott In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by leadership expert and author Taylor Scott, who spent more than twenty years inside top hospitality brands. His message is simple and powerful: great leaders make people feel welcome, comfortable, and important. We break down the real meaning of leading with hospitality and why this mindset inspires teams in any workplace. Taylor shares stories from his career, the science behind emotional leadership, and the five core values that help leaders create a sense of belonging, trust, and genuine connection. If you want to improve your leadership, build stronger teams, and influence people through humanness—not authority—this conversation is a must-listen. In this episode you’ll learn: Why hospitality is a leadership superpower How to make people feel valued and inspired The emotional skill every modern leader needs How kindness and intentionality drive performance Practical ways to bring humanity back into leadership 📘 Learn more about Taylor Scott: leadwithhospitality.com - https://leadwithhospitality.com/ LinkedIn: Taylor Scott - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tscott1502/ Instagram: @TScott1502 - https://www.instagram.com/tscott1502/?hl=en If this episode resonates with you, share it with someone who may need it. Let’s keep building a world with better bosses. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Never Quit: How an Underdog Navy SEAL Redefined Mental Toughness What does it take to push past pain, failure, and fear? In this episode, former Navy SEAL David Brown shares his incredible journey from a 5'3", 110-pound kid from coal country to one of America’s elite warriors. Against all odds, David earned his Trident, served around the world, and went on to lead major federal investigations. He opens up about the mindset that got him through SEAL training—twice—the lessons that shaped his resilience, and how to overcome life’s toughest battles. This is a raw, inspiring conversation about grit, mindset, and never giving up when the world says you can’t. 🎙️ In this episode: The mental toughness behind Navy SEAL training Why adversity doesn’t build character—it reveals it How to stay focused when everything hurts Lessons on perseverance, mindset, and leadership 📘 Learn more about David Brown and his book “And Goliath” at https://udtdave.com If you enjoy this conversation, please like, comment, and subscribe to help us build a world with better bosses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Leading in the Age of AI: The Human Advantage The AI revolution isn’t just changing technology—it’s changing what it means to lead. In this episode, Dr. Alfredo Borodowski joins me to explain why the future of leadership depends on our ability to stay human. We talk about AI-driven anxiety, how to build resilience in uncertain times, and why the most successful companies will be the ones that invest in people, not just technology. Dr. Borodowski also shares his powerful insight on moving from a culture of fixing to a culture of nourishing—a mindset every modern leader needs to thrive in the age of AI. 🎙 In this episode, you’ll learn: Why the AI revolution is a human challenge, not just a tech shift How to help your team overcome fear and anxiety around AI The four elements of psychological capital every leader should know What it means to lead with strengths, purpose, and resilience 📘 Learn more about Dr. Alfredo Borodowski: https://positiveab.com Text POSITIVE to 33777 to discover your top five character strengths. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who’s leading through change. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s our 400th episode of Deep Leadership! Thank you for listening and being part of this incredible journey. In this milestone episode, Jon Rennie talks with Salvatore Manzi, a leadership communications coach and author of the #1 Amazon bestseller Clear and Compelling: Communication Strategies for Big Thinkers with Bold Ideas. Salvatore shares how leaders, especially those with technical or analytical backgrounds, can turn complex ideas into messages that connect. He explains why metaphors move minds, how to use his “You, then Me” framework to build trust, and why introverts often make the best communicators once they learn to own the spotlight. If you’ve ever struggled to make your message stick, this episode will help you communicate with clarity, confidence, and impact. 🎧 Listen to Deep Leadership on your favorite podcast platform 📘 Get the book Clear and Compelling 🌐 Learn more about Salvatore HERE 🌐 Salvatore Manzi on LinkedIn Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Servant Leadership in Action: Lessons from Ken Blanchard with Martha Lawrence What does it really mean to lead by serving others? In this episode, Martha Lawrence—executive editor at Blanchard and co-author of Trust Works—shares personal stories from her 20+ years working alongside Ken Blanchard, the legendary author of The One Minute Manager. We discuss: How Ken Blanchard helped make servant leadership mainstream Why catching people doing things right builds stronger cultures The story behind The One Minute Manager and Blanchard’s global impact What leading with love really looks like in practice The surprising lessons from Ken’s early life and family 📘 Martha’s new book: Catch People Doing Things Right: How Ken Blanchard Changed the Way the World Leads 🌐 Learn more at kenblanchardbooks.com and marthalawrence.com 👉 Subscribe to Deep Leadership for more conversations that help you build a world with better bosses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices