

The Sport of Life: Chats w/ Comedians, Filmmakers, Sports Figures, Musicians, & Intellectuals
Trey Elling
Trey Elling chats with comedians, filmmakers, sports figures, musicians, and authors about their stories.
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May 26, 2022 • 7min
#249 - Ron Howard & Nathan Mook on WE FEED PEOPLE
Oscar-winning director Ron Howard and World Central Kitchen CEO Nathan Mook chat with Trey Elling about WE FEED PEOPLE during South By Southwest 2022. The Apple+ documentary, directed by Howard, details the tireless work and humanitarian aid provided by renowned chef José Andrés through his organization, World Central Kitchen.
Nathan Mook (0:44)
Ron Howard (3:17)

May 25, 2022 • 57min
#248 - M. Chris Fabricant on JUNK SCIENCE AND THE AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
M. Chris Fabricant, Director of Strategic Litigation for the Innocence Project & expert on forensic science and the US criminal justice system, chats with Trey Elling about JUNK SCIENCE AND THE AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. Topics include:
The birth of junk science as a jury-swaying courtroom tool (2:22)
'Peer reviewed' as a misunderstood term regarding science (10:33)
An early 1990s US Supreme Court case favoring Dow Pharmaceuticals helping with the awakening on junk science (19:55)
The challenge of swaying those whose careers have been built on a belief in junk science (26:14)
The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) uncovering major flaws with the most popular forensic sciences in 2006 (29:38)
Debunking the uniqueness and certainty of fingerprints (35:56)
How it went when the NAS revealed its findings at the annual American Academy of Forensic Science meeting in 2009 (42:59)
Michael West as an especially belligerent example of dental junk science (47:32)
Unindicted co-ejaculator theories (52:28)
The importance of Steven Mark Chaney's story (55:00)

May 24, 2022 • 11min
#247 - Nolan Ryan, et al on FACING NOLAN
Several people responsible for the new Nolan Ryan documentary, FACING NOLAN, chat with Trey Elling on the red carpet before the film's premiere at SXSW 2022. The interviewees include:
Bradley Jackson - Director (0:33)
Reid & Reese Ryan - Executive Producers & Nolan's sons (3:22)
Nolan Ryan - Major League Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher & Robin Ventura's daddy (9:16)

May 19, 2022 • 60min
#246 - Scott Hershovitz on NASSTY, BRUTISH, AND SHORT
University of Michigan Philosophy and Law professor Scott Hershovitz chats with Trey Elling about NASTY, BRUTISH, AND SHORT: ADVENTURES IN PHILOSOPHY WITH MY KIDS.

May 18, 2022 • 13min
#245 - The Kids in the Hall on THE KIDS IN THE HALL: COMEDY PUNKS
Four of the five members of The Kids in the Hall chat with Trey Elling, ahead of the South By Southwest premiere of their new Amazon Prime documentary THE KIDS IN THE HALL: COMEDY PUNKS. Amazon is also releasing a brand new season of sketches from the Canadian troupe. Throughout this conversation, you'll hear from:
Mark McKinney (0:45)
Kevin McDonald (3:40)
Dave Foley (6:25)
Scott Thompson (10:09)

May 17, 2022 • 24min
#244 - Dylan Tomine on HEADWATERS
Patagonia ambassador, writer, and fly fisherman Dylan Tomine chats with Trey Elling about HEADWATERS: THE ADVENTURES, OBSESSION, AND EVOLUTION OF A FLY FISHERMAN. Topics include:
What he loves so much about fly-fishing (1:49)
The allure of steelhead trout (6:24)
Why he's a catch-and-release fly fisherman (7:32)
Drinking his yerba mate tea out of a dried goat scrotum in Argentina (8:39)
The importance of the Skykomish River (11:42)
Reasons for the steelhead population plummeting in the Skykomish (12:53)
Whether the federal government is helping conserve steelhead populations (16:12)
Viable solutions to help steelhead populations rebound (17:17)
The prefect fly-fishing conditions (21:04)

May 12, 2022 • 14min
#243 - Raúl Esparza on CANDY
Tony-nominated actor of stage and screen Raúl Esparza chats with Trey Elling about his role in Hulu's new limited series, CANDY. Topics include:
What drew him to the role of Don Crowder in CANDY (0:22)
How much homework he did on the real-life figure the character is based on (1:30)
His current assessment of NYC as a longtime resident of the city (6:00)
How Austin and Texas have a soft spot in his heart (9:17)
An invaluable lesson Raúl learned from acting at the Steppenwolf Theatre in Chicago (10:02)
Whether he thinks what happened in CANDY was premeditated (11:20)

May 11, 2022 • 1h 3min
#242 - Jim Piddock on CAUGHT WITH MY PANTS DOWN
Actor Jim Piddock chats with Trey Elling about CAUGHT WITH MY PANTS DOWN: AND OTHER TALES FROM A LIFE IN HOLLYWOOD. Topics include:
The moment he knew he was a good actor (0:24)
How the sudden death of his dad affected Jim in his mid-20s (9:53)
Dustin Hoffman's direct and indirect impact on Jim's acting career (18:37)
Jim's uncomfortable experience with Larry David (22:51)
Landing his role in Best in Show and just how funny those scenes were with Fred Willard (34:22)
Invaluable advice he received from Harold Ramis (43:10)
The importance of exiting your comfort zone (46:45)
What Eric Idle means to him (50:57)
Jim's answer to the question, 'What does it all mean?' (54:42)
The charities that will benefit from the book's sales (59:17)

May 10, 2022 • 11min
#241 - Jessica Biel & Melanie Lynskey on CANDY
Jessica Biel and Melanie Lynskey chat with Trey Elling about co-starring in CANDY. This new Hulu limited series is based on the real story of suburban housewife and mother Candy Montgomery, whose skeletons contributed to the brutal death of fellow housewife and mom Betty Gore. Jessica plays Candy, while Melanie plays Betty. Topics include:
Jessica taking her career 'by the balls' (1:05)
What drew Melanie to the part of Betty (2:24)
Getting the 1980 Dallas accent correct (4:15)
Whether Jessica tried to track down the real Candy Montgomery (6:30)
If either Jessica or Melanie has been in a fight and how it turned out (8:32)

May 5, 2022 • 58min
#240 - Sebastian Mallaby on THE POWER LAW
Journalist and author Sebastian Mallaby, the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, chats with Trey Elling about THE POWER LAW: VENTURE CAPITAL AND THE MAKING OF THE NEW FUTURE. Topics include:
A definition of "power law" (0:35)
An explanation of venture capital (VC) (2:05)
The "Traitorous Eight" and their influence on the beginnings of Silicon Valley and VC (3:00)
VC's investment in Atari factoring in "wild-man risk" (6:59)
VC's responsibility in accelerating DNA-editing technology in the 1970s (12:02)
Apple is an example of a successful venture network (14:41)
The counterintuitive concept that weak ties generating a better circulation of info than strong times (18:34)
What Don Valentine's achievements with Cisco in the `1980s unlocked going forward (21:38)
Mosaic Communications (aka Netscape) serving as another major step in the Power Law's evolution (26:11)
How Yahoo's insistence that its search engine remained free altered the way VCs approached internet technology investments (29:44)
VCs' responsibility with the tech bubble bursting in 2000 (32:59)
Google playing the investment game so well that created another massive shift with VC (36:08)
The cause of Peter Thiel's disdain for VCs in the last 1990s and early 2000s (41:37)
Why Thiel is so good at the VC game (44:52)
VC's significant role in China's financial advances (49:08)
Whether Venture Capital has fueled the rise of blockchain and cryptocurrencies (54:27)
If VCs are making the world a better place, more often than not (55:33)


