

The Sport of Life: Chats w/ Comedians, Filmmakers, Sports Figures, Musicians, & Intellectuals
Trey Elling
Trey Elling chats with comedians, filmmakers, sports figures, musicians, and authors about their stories.
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Jul 14, 2022 • 54min
#265 - Frantz & Collins on SALMON WARS
Investigative journalists Douglas Frantz and Catherine Collins chats with Trey Elling about SALMON WARS: THE DARK UNDERBELLY OF OUR FAVORITE FISH. Topics include:
The genesis of this book (0:49)
How the farmed salmon industry is like Big Tobacco and Big Ag rolled into one (3:04)
How embedded farmed salmon is in our food supply (5:27)
Properly labelling seafood (7:16)
The evolution of commercial salmon farming (8:21)
The Canadian government's role in the rise in that country's open-net farms in the 1980s (9:51)
Norway's Hydro Seafood and its role in expanding salmon farming (13:39)
Sea lice and their damage on farmed salmon (16:19)
The dangers of farmed salmon escaping back into the wild (18:15)
The concern around Cypermethrin for fish and humans (19:30)
Alexandra Morton as a hero in this terrifying story (23:30)
How the farmed salmon industry responds to scientific findings critical of their business (25:36)
The right way to farm salmon (27:15)
The reliability of a store claiming its fish is wild caught (30:54)
Comparing Omega 3 levels in farmed- vs wild salmon (32:32)
Why salmon farmers add dye to the chemical pellets they feed their fish (36:43)
What Canada's Cohen Commission uncovered about dwindling wild salmon populations (37:50)
Whether Norway does a good job of protecting its salmon (41:10)
The added issue of salmon farm litter (43:19)
An ecological disaster perpetuated by Cook Aquaculture in 2017 (44:40)
The Miramichi River as a reason for optimism in the fight for wild salmon (57:56)
Whether Doug and Catherine are concerned about industry pushback (49:41)

Jul 12, 2022 • 28min
#264 - Mary Lynn Rajskub on FAME-ISH
Actress, comedian, and writer Mary Lynn Rajskub chats with Trey Elling about FAME-ISH: MY LIFE AT THE EDGE OF STARDOM. Topics include:
Covid as the inspiration to write this book (1:10)
Making the ranch dressing at Denny's (2:32)
Find a home as a young performer in LA (8:15)
The evolution of her standup (13:36)
The key to acting dead (20:37)
Her million-dollar mansion that housed a women's commune and anus-less dog (21:39)
Writing about personally difficult experiences (23:08)

Jul 8, 2022 • 35min
#263 - Hans Kim on his journey in standup comedy
Comedian Hans Kim chats with Trey Elling, prior to the standup showcase he's hosting at Vulcan Gas Company on July 10th. Topics include:
Kill Tony discovering him (2:19)
Life changing massively in the last year-plus (3:33)
Moving to Austin (5:28)
His standup experience in NYC (6:41)
Getting comfortable on stage (8:44)
Being funny as a kid (11:20)
Layers of being funny (13:06)
Continually honing his craft (14:48)
Opening for Joe Rogan, in front of 17,000 people (19:40)
Performing at the Vulcan Gas Company (22:34)
Comedy club etiquette (24:13)
Headlining clubs outside of Austin (26:01)
Standup influences (28:00)
Having his standup dreams become reality so abruptly (29:24)

Jul 5, 2022 • 54min
#262 - Jerry Stahl on NEIN, NEIN, NEIN
Bestselling author and screenwriter Jerry Stahl chats with Trey Elling about NEIN, NEIN, NEIN: ONE MAN'S TALE OF DEPRESSION, PSYCHIC TORMENT, AND A BUS TOUR OF THE HOLOCAUST. Topics include:
Why he decided to go on a Concentration Camp bus tour a few years ago (0:25)
Coming to terms with his own depression many years ago (1:12)
The added challenge of placating Hollywood while on the bus tour (3:23)
Investing in digitally hip luggage before the trip (5:15)
Keeping it real on Spielberg’s Schindler’s List while in Kraków (8:18)
Feeling a “heavy peace” throughout the trip, including at a Kraków synagogue’s cemetery (10:49)
Nazi porn fetish rabbit holes, no pun intended (12:13)
One of the many endearing characters on the tour bus through Poland and Germany (15:09)
An annoying, hipster influence at Auschwitz (17:59)
Modern Auschwitz’ cafeteria scene (20:08)
A Dresden, Germany restaurant that would keep kids in line with a fake executioner (23:00)
A pit stop in Munich, during Oktoberfest (26:51)
The “Bitch of Buchenwald” (29:27)
The Nuremberg courtroom being climactic and anti-climactic at the same time (38:36)
Concentration Camp fatigue syndrome (40:23)
Unique elements at Dachau’s Concentration Camp (41:19)

Jun 30, 2022 • 36min
#261 - Admiral James Stavridis, USN, Ret. on TO RISK IT ALL
Retired four-star Admiral James Stavridis chats with Trey Elling about TO RISK IT ALL: NINE CONFLICTS AND THE CRUCIBLE OF DECISION. Topics include:
John Paul Jones continuing to fight a battle that was seemingly lost (1:43)
Lieutenant Stephen Decatur 'cutting out' in Tripoli Harbor (3:08)
An amazing example of risk-taking from the US Civil War (4:46)
Gut instinct as an element of good decision making (6:37)
"Cool Hand" George Dewey and the challenges he overcame with his fleet entering Manilla Bay in 1898 (7:10)
A heroic example of risk-taking from a low-ranking figure at Pearl Harbor (10:02)
Admiral William "Bull" Halsey as an example of risky decision-making leading to tragic consequences (13:23)
The saddest example of lose-lose decision-making in the book (17:42)
Rear Admiral Michelle Howard and her team's rescue of Captain Jim Phillips from Somali pirates (22:19)
An unfortunate example of decision-making, relating to the start of the Covid-19 pandemic (27:06)
A good example of risk-taking in the face of conflict from Jim's career (31:48)

Jun 28, 2022 • 5min
#260 - Cooper Raiff on CHA CHA REAL SMOOTH
One of Hollywood's brightest, young filmmakers Cooper Raiff chats with Trey Elling about CHA CHA REAL SMOOTH. Raiff wrote, directed and starred in the film, which is available now on Apple+. Topics include:
Having a hamster as a costar in the film (1:23)
How his sister serves as an inspiration in CHA CHA REAL SMOOTH (1:45)
Directing actors of a variety of ages (2:47)
"Brown Eyed Girl" (4:09)

Jun 23, 2022 • 33min
#259 - Don McLean on the "American Pie" 50th anniversary
Legendary musician Don McLean chats with Trey Elling, ahead of his show at the Paramount Theatre in Austin, celebrating the release of "American Pie" 50 years ago. Topics include:
What the show consists of (2:33)
The key to a good story (4:03)
How he handled the success of "American Pie" poorly (8:24)
Exploring a variety of themes and styles with his music over the past 50 years (13:55)
Bob Dylan disliking the likelihood that he's the jester character in "American Pie" (17:01)
The government's role in many of the horrific events from the 1960s that the song discusses (22:49)
The assassination of JFK in 1963 (23:33)
Considering the song was inspired by his belief that the world was headed in a terrible direction, was his prediction correct? (29:25)

Jun 21, 2022 • 20min
#258 - Marlon Wayans on performing standup
Actor, writer, producer, and standup comedian Marlon Wayans chats with Trey Elling, ahead of his live shows in Austin, Houston, and San Antonio. Topics include:
Whether he has a preferred type of venue to perform standup (1:39)
What he loves about standup that is unique from making movies and tv shows (2:58)
Has his brother Damon helped him evolve as a standup (5:26)
What it'll take to get Eddie Murphy to perform standup again (6:55)
The key to capturing Richard Pryor's vulnerability in an upcoming project where he's playing the legendary comedian (8:00)
Whether he has a good Bill Murray story from their time shooting On the Rocks together (10:18)
Playing the legendary figure George Raveling in a new film on Nike's pursuit of Michael Jordan, directed by Ben Affleck (13:09)
Could a movie like White Chicks get made in 2022 (14:33)

Jun 16, 2022 • 14min
#257 - Postscript chat with Myron Rolle, MD
Following their conversation on Dr. Rolle's new book, THE 2% WAY, Dr. Rolle and Trey Elling discussed several social issues that have been swirling around the world of college and pro sports. Topics include:
Is the school song for the University of Texas racist? (1:49)
Should Florida State University consider replacing the Seminoles mascot? (7:28)
The "Redskins" nickname and high schools flying the Confederate flag (10:04)
People clinging to symbols (11:35)
To watch/hear our chat on THE 2% WAY, click HERE.

Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 10min
#256 - Myron Rolle, MD on THE 2% WAY
Former NFL player and current pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Myron Rolle chats with Trey Elling about THE 2% WAY: HOW A PHILOSOPHY OF SMALL IMPROVEMENTS TOOK ME TO OXFORD, THE NFL, AND NEUROSURGERY. Topics include:
An explanation of the 2% way (0:45)
Why examining one's foundations is important for fulfilling potential (2:26)
What his mummy was like during his childhood (4:13)
His dad's response to Myron kicking another kid's butt for calling him the n-word (6:12)
The benefit of adopting his father's stoicism as an adult (7:43)
The influence of Dr. Ben Carson's book, Gifted Hands (9:53)
The opportunities and experiences his football talent afforded him at prestigious prep high schools (12:03)
Why he decided to play football and attend college at Florida State University (16:08)
An epiphanous moment at a San Francisco Denny's when the Seminoles were prepping for a bowl game in the Bay Area (20:48)
Starting a program to assist the young people within the Seminole tribe in Florida (25:08)
Lessons learned from initially failing to qualify for the Rhodes Scholarship (29:48)
The exhilaration of winning the Rhodes Scholarship (33:29)
Why he chose to pursue the Rhodes Scholarship over an NFL career, following his junior year at Florida State (35:12)
Wonderful advice he received from Dr. Ben Carson the weekend before heading to Oxford (39:31)
The biggest benefit from his time at Oxford (42:17)
How he became better from the disappointment of sliding to the sixth round of the NFL draft (45:02)
Spending the offseason after his rookie year representing the Clinton Global Initiative in Africa (47:25)
Why his time in the NFL may have been cut so short (50:17)
The biggest regret about his time in the league (54:00)
Why 'community' and 'vision' were most important when selecting his residency hospital at Harvard Mass General Hospital (56:05)
What his wife Latoya means to him (1:02:05)
His opinion on college athletes finally being allow to profit off of Name, Image, and Likeness (1:05:49)