
The Evolving Leader
The Evolving Leader Podcast is a show set in the context of the world’s ‘great transition’ – technological, environmental and societal upheaval – that requires deeper, more committed leadership to confront the world’s biggest challenges. Hosts, Jean Gomes (a New York Times best selling author) and Scott Allender (an award winning leadership development specialist working in the creative industries) approach complex topics with an urgency that matches the speed of change. This show will give insights about how today’s leaders can grow their capacity for leading tomorrow’s rapidly evolving world. With accomplished guests from business, neuroscience, psychology, and more, the Evolving Leader Podcast is a call to action for deep personal reflection, and conscious evolution. The world is evolving, are you?A little more about the hosts:New York Times best selling author, Jean Gomes, has more than 30 years experience working with leaders and their teams to help them face their organisation’s most challenging issues. His clients span industries and include Google, BMW, Toyota, eBay, Coca-Cola, Microsoft, Warner Music, Sony Electronics, Alexander McQueen, Stella McCartney, the UK Olympic system and many others.Award winning leadership development specialist, Scott Allender has over 20 years experience working with leaders across various businesses, including his current role heading up global leadership development at Warner Music. An expert practitioner in emotional intelligence and psychometric tools, Scott has worked to help teams around the world develop radical self-awareness and build high performing cultures.The Evolving Leader podcast is produced by Phil Kerby at Outside © 2024The Evolving Leader music is a Ron Robinson composition, © 2022
Latest episodes

Jul 30, 2024 • 4min
SUMMER SHORTS: Sir John Kay (BONUS)
This short comes from a conversation that co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender had with Sir John Kay back in June 2021 (S2 Ep19).LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION:Distinguishing Risk and Uncertainty with John KayIn this episode of the Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to John Kay, one of the world’s leading economists, whose life’s work is focused on the relationship between economics and businesses. Together with Mervyn King, former Governor of the Bank of England, he wrote Radical Uncertainty about the impoverished approach many economists and business strategists take regarding risk in the face of uncertainty. In this conversation we get a wealth of insight about the judgement challenges facing leaders today and into the future. Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jul 28, 2024 • 11min
SUMMER SHORTS: Dr Lisa Feldman Barrett (BONUS)
This short comes from a two part conversation that co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender had with Dr Lisa Feldman Barrett back in December 2020 (S1 Ep15 and 16). LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION:How emotions are made with Lisa Feldman Barrett (Pt 1)How emotions are made with Lisa Feldman Barrett (Pt 2)Lisa Feldman Barrett is among the top 0.1% most cited scientists in the world for her revolutionary research in psychology and neuroscience. Distinguished Professor of Psychology at Northeastern University, and Chief Science Officer for the Center for Law, Brain and Behaviour at Harvard, Lisa Feldman Barrett, is profoundly changing our understanding of the brain and in particular, our emotions. Since the ancient philosophers, and into our last century of scientific endeavor, emotions have been seen as hard-wired responses to external stimuli, located in specific regions of the brain. Lisa’s work has over-turned this age-old model which shapes everything from our current beliefs about emotional intelligence to facial recognition software widely being deployed around the world. Lisa Feldman Barrett has written two books, Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain (2020) and How Emotions are Made (2017), as well as hundreds of peer reviewed scientific papers appearing in Science, Nature Neuroscience and other top journals in psychology and cognitive neuroscience.Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jul 24, 2024 • 46min
The Reality Check with Dr Nadine Dijkstra (FROM THE INNER CANVAS SERIES)
We’re excited to launch this new Evolving Leader mini-series, ‘The Inner Canvas’ co-hosted by our research colleagues psychologist Emma Sinclair and Neuroscientist Dr Emily Clements. In each episode, Emma and Emily talk to pioneering scientists about new breakthroughs in our understanding as to how we make sense of ourselves, painting a picture of the internal canvas that our mind creates. As a result we’ll learn more about our mindset and why it matters, and continue on our journey as evolving leaders. In this first episode, Emma and Emily are joined by Dr Nadine Dijkstra, Senior Research Fellow at the Department for Imaging Neuroscience, University College London. Nadine’s research on the reality threshold was featured as one of the top three scientific breakthroughs of 2023 and leads us to question whether a lot of what we see in the world is actually constructed in our brains, at which point we might give ourselves that reality check and ask ourselves if our interpretation is really correct. In other words, are your experiences the same as everyone else’s or is the way you think, feel and see unique to you? We’ll be releasing the next conversation in this series later in 2024.Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jul 17, 2024 • 49min
Becoming a Culture Leader with Jessica Kriegel
In this week’s episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are in conversation with Dr Jessica Kriegel. Jessica is Chief Scientist of Workplace Culture at Culture Partners where she leads groundbreaking research, strategy and innovation alongside institutions like Stanford University. Jessica is one of the few women in her space uncovering the uncharted territories of culture and leadership. As a single parent, she is also a fierce advocate for women in the workplace and designing a job that works for you—not a job you work for.Jessica’s groundbreaking research is detailed in her debut book “Unfairly Labeled,” a manifesto for equality and transformation in the modern workplace and disrupting the narrative that Baby Boomers and Gen Z are misaligned in the workplace. It is her mission to dispel the stereotype that unfairly labels workers today. She is also host of the podcast Culture Leaders (on which Jean Gomes was a recent guest), a show about how change catches fire for real transformation.Referenced during this episode:Unfairly Labeled: How Your Workplace Can Benefit From Ditching Generational Stereotypes (Wiley, 2016)Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender: Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jul 10, 2024 • 1h 7min
Emotional Ignorance with Dean Burnett
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are in conversation with neuroscientist, lecturer, author, blogger, podcaster, pundit, science communicator and comedian Dr Dean Burnett. Previously employed as a psychiatry tutor and lecturer at the Cardiff University Centre for Medical Education, Dean is currently an honorary research associate at Cardiff Psychology School, as well as a Visiting Industry Fellow at Birmingham City University.Dean is currently a full-time author, previously known for his satirical science column ‘Brain Flapping‘ at the Guardian, which ran from 2012 to 2018 he went on to write his first (the hugely successful) book ‘The Idiot Brain‘. He has since written ‘The Happy Brain’, ‘Why Your Parents are Driving You Up The Wall’ and his most recent book ‘Emotional Ignorance’.Referenced during this episode:The Idiot Brain: A Neuroscientist Explains What Your Head is Really Up To (2017)The Happy Brain: The Science of Where Happiness Comes From, and Why (2018)Emotional Ignorance: Misadventures in the Science of Emotion (2024) Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender: Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleader LinkedIn The Evolving Leader Podcast Twitter @Evolving_Leader YouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jul 3, 2024 • 52min
Change From the Inside Out with Scott Shute
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are in conversation with Scott Shute. Scott specialises in combining the practicalities of leading in the modern business world with the wisdom of ancient traditions to help individuals and companies be leaders in conscious business. His goal is for businesses to thrive financially while providing their customers long-term value and leaving employees feeling inspired and whole. When done consciously, work can be a part of the collective healing that needs to take place in the world.Scott has been studying and practicing mindfulness and related wisdom teachings since he was thirteen years old, and teaching since he was in college. Scott started his career with twenty-five years of customer-oriented leadership and executive roles, culminating with three years leading Mindfulness and Compassion programs at LinkedIn. In 2021 his book ‘Full Body Yes, Change Your Work and Your World from the Inside Out’ was published and he now works as an executive coach, keynote speaker. In 2022 Scott formed ‘Changing Work’ which he describes as ‘creating a collective of conscious business practitioners to help elevate and amplify their work’.Referenced during this episode:‘Full Body Yes, Change Your Work and Your World from the Inside Out’Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender:Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jun 26, 2024 • 1h 1min
How to Live Future Ready with Frederik Pferdt
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, Sara Deschamps facilitates a fascinating conversation between Evolving Leader co-host Jean Gomes and author and Google's first and former Chief innovation evangelist Frederik G. Pferdt. Frederik is on a mission to empower everyone to fulfil their visions for the future from shaping Google’s fabled creative culture as Chief Innovation Evangelist to nurturing the minds of students at Stanford University’s Hasso Plattner Institute of Design where he teaches graduate courses such as ‘Hacking Your Innovation Mindset’.Frederik’s book ‘What’s Next Is Now, How To Live Future Ready’ was published by Harper Collins in 2024.Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender:Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jun 19, 2024 • 1h 8min
All Pride, No Ego with Jim Fielding
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Emma Sinclair are in conversation with Jim Fielding. Jim is a seasoned executive having held several senior executive roles including time at DreamWorks, Disney and Claire’s. He is an active angel investor, startup advisor and philanthropist and is the President of Archer Gray Co-Lab Group. In 2023, Jim Fielding’s book ‘All Pride, No Ego: A Queer Executive’s Journey to Living and Leading Authentically.‘ was published, further expanding Jim’s services to his community, helping to build safe, inclusive and respectful work and community spaces.Referenced during this episode:All Pride, No Ego: A Queer Executive's Journey to Living and Leading Authenticallyhttps://bit.ly/3VsjLSLOther reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender:Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

Jun 5, 2024 • 56min
The Resilient Mind with David Creswell
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to resilience expert David Creswell. David is Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Carnegie Mellon University and Chief of Science at Equa Health. His research ranges from basic neuroscience to large community based clinical trials of stress management programs and techniques while his Health and Human Performance Laboratory at Carnegie Mellon University leads on the science of mindfulness meditation training. David is also the Chief of Science at Equa Health, where he has used his research to build an interactive and personalised digital mindfulness training app (www.equahealth.io). David’s work is often profiled in places like the NY Times, LA Times, the Washington Post, and the Today Show, and for his scientific contributions he has received early career awards from the Association for Psychological Science, the American Psychological Association, the Social Personality Health Network, and the American Psychosomatic Society.Referenced during this episode:EquaOther reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender: Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team

May 29, 2024 • 59min
How We Break with Vincent Deary
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Professor Vincent Deary. Vincent is a writer, researcher and a practitioner health psychologist. He's a professor of psychology at Northumbria University and a former clinical fatigue specialist at the Cresta fatigue clinic. He has also worked as a cognitive behavioural therapist with an interest in researching new interventions. In 2015, the first part of Vincent’s ‘How To Live’ trilogy ‘How We Break’ was published, followed in 2024 by ‘How We Break’, where the focus is on what happens when our minds and bodies are pushed beyond their limits.Referenced during this episode:How We Are: The Force of Habit and the Work of ChangeHow We Break: Navigating the Wear and Tear of LivingThe Cresta Fatigue ClinicOther reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender: Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team