
Politics with Michelle Grattan
The Conversation's Chief Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.
Latest episodes

Jun 4, 2025 • 30min
Historian Emma Shortis warns against falling into Trump's trade traps
Ahead of Anthony Albanese's likely first meeting with Donald Trump this month, a US politics expert says 'begging' for lower tariffs would be a mistake.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

May 29, 2025 • 31min
Zoe McKenzie on everything that went wrong and whether a gender quota could help the Liberals
We're joined by Liberal Zoe McKenzie who was elected to the Melbourne electorate of Flinders in 2022. She joins us to talk about the Liberal party future.

May 21, 2025 • 22min
Jim Chalmers on keeping Australia out of recession amid the 'dark shadow' of global instability
From super changes to avoiding recession, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers joins the podcast to discuss the government's priorities when Parziament returns in July.Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

May 20, 2025 • 22min
Jim Chalmers on keeping Australia out of recession amid the 'dark shadow' of global instability
From super changes to avoiding recession, federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers joins the podcast to discuss the government's priorities when Parliament returns in July.

May 14, 2025 • 30min
Andrew Leigh on more productive work in the age of AI
Assistant Minister Andrew Leigh is charged with lifting Australia's stagnant productivity. He says AI may help us do less drudge work, such as sending endless emails.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

May 8, 2025 • 20min
David Pocock wants us to aim for up 90% reduction in emissions
David Pocock joins us today to talk about the new Senate situation, his aspirations for the next three years and the election generally. Mentioned in this episode:Your support mattersSupport non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

May 5, 2025 • 21min
The post mortem: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn
The election's over, it's a resounding win for Labor, but what now? How will the Liberal party rebuild?Mentioned in this episode:The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

May 2, 2025 • 17min
Culture wars and costings: election special podcast with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn
editorial@theconversation.edu.auPolicy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/ Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters

Apr 28, 2025 • 19min
Pollster Kos Samaras on how voters are leaving the major parties behind
Ex-Labor strategist turned pollster Kos Samaras says both major parties have been slow in adapting to this year's huge pre-poll voter turnout.Mentioned in this episode:Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newslettersHow Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.

Apr 24, 2025 • 16min
Scares and stunts in the home stretch: election special episode with Michelle Grattan and Amanda Dunn
editorial@theconversation.edu.auPolicy tracker: https://stories.theconversation.com/policy-tracker/ Mentioned in this episode:How Australian Democracy Works'How Australian Democracy Works' edited by Politics Editor Amanda Dunn is out now in all good book stores.The Conversation WeeklySearch for 'The Conversation Weekly' wherever you get your podcasts.Sign up to The Conversation's newsletterhttps://theconversation.com/au/newsletters