About the GuestKolby Atchison serves as the head of school at Clapham School, a classical Christian school in Wheaton, Illinois, that implements the educational philosophy of Charlotte Mason. He is a founding director of Educational Renaissance where he speaks, writes, and podcasts on classical Christian education, Charlotte Mason, and modern research. He lives with his wife and three children in Chicagoland. Show NotesIn this episode, Kolby and Adrienne dive into the philosophy of a person and the role of a teacher according to Charlotte Mason. Recently, several neoclassical programs (Memoria Press and Classical Conversations) released videos answering the popular question, "Is Charlotte Mason Classical?" We decided to dive directly into what we believe is the fundamental difference in the tradition of classical ed (which Mason is closely aligned to) and the the progressive classical movement (otherwise known as neoclassical). Resources MentionedNeoclassical Vs. Classical Tradition: a comparison on Beautiful Teaching's website: https://www.beautifulteaching.com/neoclassical-vs-classicalMemoria Press Latin StudyThe Core by Leigh Bortins (founder of Classical Conversations)Charlotte Mason Vol VI & Vol IAristotleThe BibleA Thinking Love: Studies from Charlotte Mason's Home Education by Karen GlassTill We Have Faces by C.S. LewisEducational Renaissance________________________________________________________Beautiful Teaching online courses:BT online webinars, interactive courses, and book studies registration: https://beautifulteaching.coursestorm.com/________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2025 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserve

About The GuestsKaren Glass is part of the Advisory of AmblesideOnline. She has four children, ages 13 to 27, who have been homeschooled using Charlotte Mason’s methods from beginning to end.  Karen has been studying and writing about Charlotte Mason and Classical Education for over twenty years and has written the popular books Consider This: Charlotte Mason and The Classical Tradition,  Know and Tell: The Art of Narration, In Vital Harmony, and her newest book A Thinking Love: Studies from Charlotte Mason's Home Education.Dr. Robert Terry has over twenty years of experience in classical education. He has been a teacher of multiple disciplines, a curriculum designer, and has worked extensively in teacher training and development. He has served as the Curriculum Director and Vice President of Academics at a multi-campus University-model classical Christian school in the Dallas area. While academic head he successfully accomplished two ACCS accreditations. Before discovering classical education, Robert was a CPA. He has also served his school as a Finance Director in the past. Robert holds an MA in Philosophy focusing on the great Christian texts and a Doctorate focused on the work of the Oxford Inklings. He has been married to Elisabeth for twenty-five years and has been active in homeschooling their four grown children.Show NotesOn this episode, my guests discuss the important connections that Mason made from reading Samuel Taylor Coleridge's On Method. We discuss how important this connection is to her philosophy, as well as how it has had an impact on the classical education movement. Some important discussion points include:The poet's influence on MasonThe revitalization of Shakespeare, wonder, and a curiosity framework in educationA deep understanding of ideas and making relational connectionsMethod as it is tied to a pedagogyMason's method of a lesson and how to properly interpret her 20 principlesReason for caution: Why reading Charlotte Mason in part can be misleading ResourcesIf you want to read Coleridge, Karen Glass recommends this version. It is a facsimile of the same version that Mason had in her PNEU library: A Dissertation On The Science Of Method ISBN:  978-1018198736Karen's blog on Coleridge and Mason Connections: https://www.karenglass.net/page/2/?s=coleridgeConnections with Coleridge #1—A nod from Charlotte MasonConnections with Coleridge #2—Introducing Treatise on MethodConnections with Coleridge #3—Law and OrderConnections with Coleridge #3.5—A Speculative DetourConnections with Coleridge #4—Dipping into MethodConnections with Coleridge #5—In Pursuit of MethodConnections with Coleridge #6—Meet the PhilosophersConnections with Coleridge #7—Laws, Ideas, and TruthConnections with Coleridge #8—A short history of the education of mankindConnections with Coleridge #9—In Search of the SoulConnections with Coleridge #10—A Few Final WordsTreatise On Method: ColeridgeThe Rime of the Ancient Mariner: Coleridge Kuala Khan: ColeridgeShakespeareFrancis BaconPlatoC.S. LewisTolkienQuintilion Pascal ____________________Beautiful Teaching (BT) Resources:BT online webinars, interactive courses, and book studies registration: https://beautifulteaching.coursestorm.com/BT Newsletters: https://www.beautifulteaching.com/newsletters________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2025 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserve

Guests Dr. Louis Markos: Houston Christian University: Professor of EnglishRobert H. Ray Chair in HumanitiesScholar-in-ResidenceDr. Patrick Egan: Clapham Christian Classical SchoolAcademic DeanContributor of Educational Renaissance Jason Barney: Coram Deo Academy in Carmel, INSchool PrincipalAuthor of Charlotte Mason: A Liberal Education for All (published by CAP)Contributor of Educational Renaissance Show NotesCommon misunderstandings of Charlotte Mason (especially if you only read her principles)What does Mason say about memory work and how does it compare to Dorothy Sayer's view?Who in the Romantic era is good that Charlotte Mason embraced? What did she reject from the Romantic philosophers?Various quotes from Mason that reflect her alignment to the liberal arts traditionWhat is her view of a child and how does it influence her pedagogy?How and why narration is classical and superior as a classical pedagogyWhat is Paideia? -- Does Mason have a paideia in her philosophy?How the habit training model of Charlotte Mason mirrors/agrees with the classical traditionResources MentionedThe Great BooksJohn Locke, Coleridge, WordsworthCharlotte Mason: A Liberal Education for All by Jason BarneyFor The Children's Sake by Susan Schaeffer MacaulayConsider This: Charlotte Mason and the Classical Tradition by Karen GlassAbolition of Man by CS LewisThe Seven Laws of Teaching by John Milton GregoryAn Essay Towards a Philosophy of Education by Charlotte M. Mason (Centenary Expanded Edition has restored her original essay, "Two Education Ideals" where she compares Rousseau's Emile unfavorably to her favoring John Milton's Of Education)Metalogicon by John of SalisburyInstitutes of Oratory by QuintilianCharlotte Mason's Great Recognition of the Middle Ages through the fresco (vol. 2- Parents and Children by Mason)Charlotte Mason Quotes Louis Markos: "Our schools turn out a good many clever young persons, wanting in nothing but initiative, the power of reflection and the sort of moral imagination that enables you to 'put yourself in his place.'"- (Mason, Vol 6, pg. 25)Jason Barney:  "Almost anything may be made of a child by those who first get him into their hands. We find that we can work definitely towards the formation of character; that the habits of the good life, of the alert intelligence, which we take pains to form in the child, are, somehow, registered in the very substance of his brain; and that the habits of the child are, as it were, so many little hammers beating out by slow degrees the character of the man.  Therefore we set ourselves to form a habit in the same matter-of-fact steady way that we set about teaching the multiplication table; expecting the thing to be done and done with for life. " (The History and Aims of the P.N.E.U. pamphlet)Patrick Egan: "But the Florentine mind of the Middle Ages went further than this: it believed, not only that the seven Liberal Arts were fully under the direct outpouring of the Holy Ghost, but that every fruitful idea, every original conception, whether in Euclid, or grammar, or music, was a direct inspiration from the Holy Spirit, without any thought at all as to whether the person so inspired named himself by the name of God, or recognised whence his inspiration came." (Mason, Vol 2, pg. 271)________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2025 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

GuestsDr. Matthew Post:  Founder and Former Director of the Classical Education Graduate program at The University of Dallas; Served with The National Classical Education Symposium, The Institute for Classical Education, and The National Council for Classical Educators; Currently serves as Assistant Dean of Academic Affairs, Honors College at The University of TulsaDr. Laura Eidt: University of Dallas- Affiliate Assistant Professor of Modern Languages, Humanities Program Director, Director of UD's K-5 Latin Curriculum Latin Through StoriesDr. Robert Terry: Over 25 years at a Classical University Model School teaching and serving as curriculum director and faculty development, Masters in Great Books, Doctorate of Theology (ThD in Inkling Studies)Jonathan Fiore: Formerly homeschooled, Graduate of Hillsdale, Masters in Classical Education from The University of Dallas, Humanities Teacher at Holy Innocent's Catholic SchoolTopics CoveredWhat are the essential criteria for a school to be considered classical?There are 4 touchstones that make up a classical education: Christ-centered, cultivation of wisdom and virtue, appreticeship in the 7 liberal arts, and a focus on the timeless and traditionalCommunity and leadership must have an understanding of the tradition for successAtmosphere is central to the success -- order and harmony (beauty) is really importantAre the following things necessary?- Great Books, Socratic Dialogue, integration of subjects, Charlotte Mason, Trivium & Quadrivium, Latin? Love and freedom are at the heart of classical educationDoes reading the classics or teaching ancient Greek history automatically define your school as "classical"?Are we preparing students to see themselves as part of a community and a country?How ought we assess students if education is rooted in love and liberty?-- What does the research tell us about good and bad ways to assess students?What are some common roadblock in classical education?Memory work should be meaningful rather than rote fact chantsSeminarsFormation of teachers and parents is necessary Resources we Discussed:Paradox of Education in a Republic by Eva BrannJefferson's Natural AristocracyHomer's Iliad and OdysseyWhat is a book or poem that every classical teacher and board member should read?The Liberal Arts Tradition by Clark and JainPlato's GorgiasThe Awakening of Miss Prim by Natalia Sanmartin FenolleraHomer's Iliad (Fagles or Lattimore translation)Abolition of Man by C.S. LewisParadox of Education in a Republic by Eva Brann________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2024 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

About our GuestKiernan Fiore has worked as a teacher, administrator, trainer, and curriculum developer since 2011. Kiernan was classically home educated using a Charlotte Mason methodology, and her own educational experience is the inspiration for her work. She holds a BA in English from Hillsdale College and an MA in Shakespeare Studies from King’s College London and is certified in 4-8th Grade ELAR and Social Studies in Texas. After six years of working with the Founders Classical network of charter schools in Texas, she now serves as Dean of Curriculum at Holy Innocents School in Long Beach, CA. She also serves as a consultant on special projects and curriculum alignment with Beautiful Teaching, LLC. She has been married to Jonathan, also a classical educator, for six years and is the mother of three children. Show NotesThis discussion drills down into to how to help children grow by offering them a living curriculum. The work of teaching is the cultivation of the whole child. As classical educators, we need to think deeply about our curriculum and pedagogy. New teachers often wrestle with what this looks like in the classroom. An understanding of curriculum and its incarnational role will greatly influence the development of the whole child.  Habit training is unpacked as an intellectual virtue at the heart of the entire foundation of a classical education.Discussion Points:How can we best help children grow?What is curriculum?-- Is it the books you are reading or is it the standards, benchmarks, and roadmaps that drive the instruction in the classroom?How does our definition influence our classroom instruction?As Christian Classical educators, is there another way to view curriculum that is centered on an incarnational model?What are some challenges with having check lists? Are there helpful checklists?Why is habit training so important and in what areas do we need to focus on?How can our habit training influence our standards and grading rubrics?Resources we Discussed:Andrew Zwerneman podcast interview has all the resources that will help you with grading: https://classicaleducationpodcast.transistor.fm/episodes/leading-assessing-seminars-with-andrew-zwerneman-from-cana-academyClassical Education Rubric Checklist: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VYej2Qw2GrEItZI_wZjAy0hf7OS3oYpz/view?usp=drive_linkCatholic (virtue-based) Standards:https://cardinalnewmansociety.org/educator-resources/resources/academics/catholic-curriculum-standards/#standards-and-resources________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2024 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

About our GuestChris earned a BA in Philosophy from Gettysburg College and an MAT in Elementary Education from Towson University.  He has been a classroom educator and administrator for 29 years, having served in public, independent, and classical schools.  His is an author, speaker, and consultant in classical education, as well as an online and in-person teacher, coach, and tutor.Along with his professional pedigree, he is a lifelong practitioner of several of the common arts profiled in his book, Common Arts Education.  For more than thirty years, Chris has sought out training for and advanced his skills in armament, agriculture, material-working arts, ancestral skills, preparedness, and more.  He is a practicing musician, amateur radio operator, and avid outdoorsman, all of which serve to inform and shape his ongoing development of, and in, the arts. Chris founded Always Learning Education in order to serve teachers, schools, homeschool families, and others who are interested in learning and propagating the common arts.   He lives on a small homesteaded farm in central Virginia with his wife and three homeschooled sons.\https://alwayslearningeducation.net/Show NotesIn this episode, Chris Hall shares a few of his favorite poems and discusses poetry for science lessons! This episode will inspire you in the delightfulness of integrating poetry and stories into science lessons.Poems on this EpisodeWhen I Heard the Learn’d Astronomer By Walt WhitmanThe Peace of Wild Things By Wendell BerryShakespeare's Sonnet 37_______________________________________Remembering Season 1, Episode 3 Chris Hall joined our podcast to discuss the common arts https://share.transistor.fm/s/a08b71cbThat podcast episode can be heard here. We discussed the following: What are the common arts? How do they relate to a classical education? How do we bring up the whole human being, thriving in wonders of life and right ordered relationships? How to balance and bolster both common arts and liberal arts in education. _______________________________________________________SCL FALL RETREAT, 2024Chris and I were both invited to lead the teacher track sessions at Society for Classical Learning's 2024 fall conference in Dallas the last weekend in October. We are collaborating and are creating not only some wonderful sessions on the theory of classical education but also practical sessions where you will leave feeling equipped.  You will discover the transcendentals (truth, goodness, and beauty)— through theory and hands-on practicum sessions. This conference is not only for classroom teachers but also for home educators.  Tickets are on sale at the Society for Classical Learning website be sure to look for their link to the fall retreat so you can read more about this conference, our sessions, and register online.https://www.societyforclassicallearning.org/fall-retreat-24/ ________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2024 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

About our GuestAndrew J. Zwerneman serves as Cana Academy’s President and as one of their MasterTeachers. For 40 years, he has taught and consulted in secondary schools that emphasize classic humanities. For 19 years he headed schools—2 at the public charter school, Tempe Preparatory Academy in Tempe, Arizona, 17 at Trinity School at Meadow View in Falls Church, Virginia. He is the founder and owner of The Academy Project, LLC, which wrote the original curricula and trained faculties for Thomas MacLaren School in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Trinity Academy in Portland, Oregon. Education: B.A., A.B.D., University of Notre Dame; M.A., St. John’s University. He is the author of History Forgotten and Remembered (2020) and The Life We Have Together: A Case for Humane Studies, A Vision for Renewal (2022).https://www.canaacademy.org/Show NotesLeading seminars is one of Andrew's areas of expertise. Adrienne invited him back on the show to discuss the principles of leading great seminars and how to give grades that matter.Discussion Points:Referring to Zwerneman's "10 for 10: How to Grade Seminar Participation" the following are discussed:Why seminars are an important pedagogy for classical schoolThe  principles for guiding good seminars Distinguishing between the higher habits of mind and the skilled habits of work What are some good reasons for grading seminars and how to grade themResources from Cana Academy10 for 10: How to Grade Seminar Participationhttps://www.history250.org/8 Tips for Leading a Great Seminar Discussion8 Tips On Coaching a Reluctant Discussanthttps://www.canaacademy.org/free-resources : scroll down to Seminar Leadership Videoshttps://www.canaacademy.org/shopExample of Free Sample: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57e9653aebbd1a90d5cf34c6/t/5dfbd171db0c927d0316e45e/1576784250891/IliadGuideFreePreview+Secured.pdf________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2024 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

About The GuestAnna-Marie Carter is an enthusiastic classical education convert. After years of disillusionment under the philosophy of progressive education, she had about given up teaching altogether. Her hope in education was saved by a call to teach music at Founders Classical Academy of Mesquite where she made lifelong friends and fell in love with the craft. She continues this love by sharing her joy for the fine arts with her students in and out of the classroom. Anna-Marie teaches alongside her gracious husband Daniel at Founders Classical in Tyler where they are raising their sweet children Amelia, Remington, and Clara Mae.Show Notes & HighlightsAdrienne introduces you to Anne-Marie Carter in a completely joyful interview about creatively connecting History of the world and History of America through the arts. Anne-Marie Carter falls in love with teaching after moving from a scripted school to  Founder’s Classical School in Tyler, Texas. They discuss some of the following: Why and How to make an artful Book of the Centuries.Presenting a feast of ideas, to love many things and care about many things.The art and music teacher collaborates with the classroom teachers. Creativity and how to grade the student's work.What materials are neededYOUTUBE LINK: https://youtu.be/6lbOdS6Hq8YThe second half of this interview is all visual. To view the examples and hear how to make a book of centuries, visit our YouTube Channel. youtube@classicaleducationpodcast_________________________Books MentionedCharlotte Mason quote about history: (Vol. 6, 178), Mason's section on the teaching history begins on page 169 in vol. 6) Consider This: Charlotte Mason and The Classical Tradition by Karen GlassBooks by Charlotte MasonAbolition of Man by C S LewisThe Living Page by Laurie BestvaterThe Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-ExuperyLes Miserables by Victor Hugo ________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2024 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

About The GuestMariah Martinez has worked in education since 2015 as a teacher, curriculum developer, and mentor teacher. Mariah attended the Honors College at Houston Baptist University where she received a B.A., double majoring in Philosophy and English. In 2021, she received a Master of Humanities  in classical education from the University of Dallas. She is certified as a 7-12 ELAR instructor in the state of Texas. She began her teaching career at a Great Hearts school in San Antonio and now works at a Founders Classical charter school in Texas. She has eight years of middle and high school teaching experience and is a founding faculty member of the high school at her current location where she now serves as the assistant headmaster for the upper school. She has experience not only with developing classical curricula for the high school environment but has also developed guides for creating house systems and student leadership positions. Mariah's goal is to help make the methods of classical education and the philosophies behind them accessible for all.Show NotesMariah Martinez shares what she has learned about Classical pedagogy and how to apply this art of teaching classically, simply and well. She shares her experience working at a classical charter school and the impact that it has had on her students. She also shares about the two types of classical pedagogy which she will expand on at the Vital Ideas Conference, 2024.Some Highlights:What you must have in order to obtain good pedagogy;  from Norms and Nobility by David HicksDoes the state of education matter?What leads to an incomplete education?What happens with isolation and online programs?How do we form well ordered minds and souls?Two types of pedagogy and the subcategories Observed differences that Classical Education has made in the students at her schoolResources Mentioned Norms and Nobility by David Hicks ---An affordable REISSUE of Norms and Nobility releases August 6, 2024 (look for the blue book with the introduction by Andrew Kern)Crime and Punishment by DostoyevskyAudiobook: Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë Narrated by: Virginia Leishman ________________________________________________________ONE day left to register for the conference on June 28-29, 2024Vital Ideas Online Classical Education Conference Information -https://www.beautifulteaching.com/conference________________________________________________________This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2024 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

David V. Hicks, a former Chief Academic Officer and renowned author, shares insights from his extensive career in education. He discusses the transformative power of classical education and critiques contemporary educational practices. Hicks emphasizes the need for inquiry and curiosity, linking myths and historical revolutions to moral constructs. He advocates for a return to classical texts and principles to foster deeper learning and community engagement, while reflecting on the challenges of modern educational ideologies.