
Psych Health and Safety Podcast
The goal of the psych health and safety podcast is to rapidly advance the practice of psychological health and safety in companies worldwide. Featuring a guest each episode from the fields of health and safety, psychology and academia who are leading the way in their corner of the globe.
Hosts: Jason van Schie (AU), Joelle Mitchell (AU), Peter Kelly (UK), Kate Field (UK), Kim MacDonald (CA), Ian Lewis (CA) and Erin O'Byrne (CA)
Latest episodes

Jul 10, 2023 • 1h 10min
USA crossover - 1 year of USA podcast - Hosted by Dr I. David Daniels
This episode marks one year since the start of the Psych Health and Safety USA podcast and again features a conversation with Joelle Mitchell and Jason van Schie, the co-hosts of the original Psych Health and Safety podcast in Australia. In a unique conversation, Jason and Joelle talk with Dr. Daniels about the last year of the USA podcast and some of what he’s learned over the year. They also fill him in on some of what has been going on “down under” relative to Psychological Health and Safety.

Jul 6, 2023 • 45min
CASE REFLECTION - Exploring decision-making during a fatal incident - with Dr Rebecca Michalak
In this episode, Australian hosts Jason and Alicia are joined by regular guest Dr Rebecca Michalak, Managing Director at Psychsafe. We take a case exploration approach, referencing a recent incident involving police response, to discuss the type of approach that should be taken during an investigation into incidents where individual decision-making is core to the event.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dr-rebecca-michalak-6a5b1115_psychosocial-fatigue-shift-activity-7066623161382932480-MFg7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Jul 3, 2023 • 46min
Shifting the focus back to work design - with Jennifer Low
In this episode, Australian hosts Jason and Joelle chat with returning guest Jennifer Low, Director of Health, Safety, Resilience and Digital Policy at the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Jen provides an update on the progress of the psychosocial regulations since we last spoke with her, then gives us a crash course in work design for psychosocial hazards.

Jun 26, 2023 • 32min
Prioritising People - with Louise Aston
In this episode, UK Hosts Peter and Hayley chat with Louise Aston, Wellbeing Director at Business in the Community. Louise shares insights from BITC's latest report - "Prioritise people: Unlock the value of a thriving workforce".
https://www.bitc.org.uk/report/prioritise-people-unlock-the-value-of-a-thriving-workforce/

6 snips
Jun 19, 2023 • 1h 6min
Pitching the business case for Psych H&S to the Board - with Anna Feringa
Anna Feringa joins the conversation, bringing her expertise in pitching psychological health and safety to executives. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the board’s knowledge level to avoid missteps. The need for an executive sponsor who champions mental well-being is highlighted. Anna discusses leveraging data for a compelling business case, balancing detail to avoid overwhelming decision-makers. She also underscores the ethical responsibility towards employee welfare, especially in light of soaring workplace mental health risks.

Jun 12, 2023 • 43min
Holistic employee wellbeing - with César Gamio
In this episode, UK hosts Peter and Hayley chat with guest César Gamio, Managing Director at Dharma Centre for Wellbeing. César distinguishes between 'wellness' and 'wellbeing', and explains how organisations can build an employee wellbeing approach that is comprehensive, strategic, resourced appropriately, and aligned with organisational objectives.

Jun 5, 2023 • 1h 18min
Technology and psychological health and safety - with Cameron Stevens
In this episode Australian hosts Jason and Joelle chat with Cameron Stevens, safety technologist and Director of Pocketknife Group. Cam discusses the benefits to an organisation of having their safety function involved in technology application. He shares his observations about current pre-employment screenings and the significant opportunity to explore psychosocial factors using realistic job previews to provide better recruitment outcomes for both employers and employees. We explore the interaction between psychosocial factors and critical risk control and discuss how well this interaction is currently being managed by organisations engaged in critical risk work.
NB: The arms of a T-Rex are about 3ft long. Joelle's arms are significantly shorter than those of a T-Rex, as are those of most humans.

May 30, 2023 • 37min
Mental health is a public health issue - with Louise Hosking
In this episode, UK hosts Hayley and Peter chat with repeat guest Louise Hosking, who is joining us from a brand new role as Executive Director of Environmental Health with the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health. Louise speaks to the importance of environmental health in improving human health, and the relationship between mental health and public health.

May 22, 2023 • 56min
EXPERT SERIES: When the psychosocial inspector calls
With most Australian states now having specific regulations for managing psychosocial risks in place, regulators will be responsible for inspecting duty holders to ensure they have safe systems of work in place to prevent psychological injury. So what is required?
Join Australian hosts Jason and Joelle as they share what to expect when a psychosocial inspector visits your workplace, and how to be prepared with information to demonstrate you are compliant with WHS regulations.
Download the cheat sheet here: https://psychosocialriskassessment.com/download-the-psychological-health-safety-cheat-sheet/

May 15, 2023 • 50min
A different way to EAP - with Donna Lawrence
In this episode, Australian hosts Jason and Joelle chat with Donna Lawrence, Clinical Psychologist and Head of Wellbeing, Safety and Injury Management at St John WA. Donna shares the bespoke approach St John WA takes in maintaining its own Employee Assistance Provider network of Psychologists, (including the work involved in establishing and maintaining the network!) and then we discuss how St John encourages employees to make a workers compensation claim when it becomes apparent that this is the more appropriate recovery pathway than EAP. This is a practical and fascinating exploration of an organisation doing psychological support and injury response a bit differently.