Money of Mine

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Jul 5, 2024 • 52min

All you need to know about coal (Matt Warder)

We’re joined by Matt Warder for a great chat about met & thermal coal markets, what recent events have done to prices, what the transition away from these commodities will look like, which companies stand out and the age old dividend vs buyback debate.Enjoy the yarn!Sign-up for the Director’s SpecialCoal Trader Substack All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners:Axis Mining Technology - Drill hole survey instrumentation expertsinfo@axisminetech.com - +61 (8) 9317 6911Mineral Mining Services – Your preferred mining contractorenquiry@mineralms.com.au - 1300 546 117VRIFY – Communicate in 3Dgrant@vrify.comGetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storageMatt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569DSI Underground – Ground support gurushttps://www.dsiunderground.com/contactSilverstone – Energy solutions for your businesskenny@sstone.com.auCRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectorsdavidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling companyJames@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drillingdrew@k-drill.com.auWe use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.comMoney of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Matt Warder on MoM(0:01:21)The market temperature(0:05:07)Fire at Longview(0:06:43)Spot vs contracts markets(0:08:30)Historical trends in coal market(0:12:03)Nat gas capping thermal coal(0:15:27)Coal qualities(0:18:50)Structural bottom in met coal(0:23:17)Market sensitivety when supply is interrupted(0:26:13)Why majors have sold(0:31:23)Market fragility(0:38:05)Dividends vs buybacks(0:40:39)Over vs under
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Jul 4, 2024 • 33min

More than meets the eye at Boss Energy

We kick things off with a “How to Build a Waterfall Chart” special, now that we’re into quarterly season.Then, we chat about several pre-quarterly releases, including from Boss Energy, Westgold and Capricorn, before we round up the show with a discussion on Chalice’s poorly received MoU with Mitsubishi.Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: Axis Mining Technology - Drill hole survey instrumentation experts info@axisminetech.com - +61 (8) 9317 6911 Mineral Mining Services – Your preferred mining contractor enquiry@mineralms.com.au - 1300 546 117 VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling drew@k-drill.com.au We use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.com Buy Money of Mine MERCH Join our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group Money of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Introduction(0:01:44)How to Build a Waterfall chart(0:09:38)What's missing at Boss?(0:16:57)Westgold issue a divvie(0:21:28)Capricorn steady on(0:24:56)Market disapproves of CHN's MoU
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Jul 2, 2024 • 52min

LG has saved Liontown?

Some big news today with Liontown (LTR) announcing new funding with LG Energy, West African (WAF) updating their feasibility study whilst raising $120m and Centaurus (CTM) finally sharing their feasibility study.We also spoke briefly about 29Metals (29M) sharing their rates, met coal prices flying, intriguing developments in the cobalt market and some drama at Avebury. Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: Axis Mining Technology - Drill hole survey instrumentation experts info@axisminetech.com - +61 (8) 9317 6911 Mineral Mining Services – Your preferred mining contractor enquiry@mineralms.com.au - 1300 546 117 VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drillingdrew@k-drill.com.auWe use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.comJoin our exclusive Money Miners Facebook GroupMoney of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Introduction(0:01:37)Liontown lock in cash(0:24:00)WAF rattle tin(0:32:28)Centaurus finally share numbers(0:43:28)29M cave to market(0:44:12)Ramelius confirmed as Spartan buyer(0:46:31)Met coal flies(0:47:06)Funds buy physcial cobalt(0:48:41)Drama at fallen Mallee 
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Jul 1, 2024 • 1h 26min

One year later, is WA1 the real deal?

We’ve got 3 big stories today. Firstly, a fire broke at Anglo’s (AAL.l) Grosvenor coal mine which caused alarm throughout the sector.Secondly, we were joined by Bogan Geologist and fund manager Emanuel Datt for a debrief on WA1 following their maiden resource as well as the recent metallurgical results, one year after we initially had them on.To wrap up, we discussed the unfortunately news that administrators have been called at Calidus (CAI). Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: Axis Mining Technology - Drill hole survey instrumentation experts info@axisminetech.com - +61 (8) 9317 6911 Mineral Mining Services – Your preferred mining contractor enquiry@mineralms.com.au - 1300 546 117 VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling drew@k-drill.com.au We use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.com Buy Money of Mine MERCH Join our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group Money of Mine on YouTube + Twitter (0:00:00)Introduction(0:01:55)Fire at Anglo's Grosvenor(0:21:01)Is WA1 the real deal?(0:57:21)What caused Calidus' undoing?
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Jun 28, 2024 • 1h 36min

Everything you need to know about rare earths with Mike Bevan

We had a chat with Mike Bevan, a geo (who runs a cracking YouTube channel at GeoInvest Insights) to get right into the weeds on understanding rare earths from a geologists perspective, as well as some uranium chat.We picked through hard rock and the clay deposits, the red flags to look for plus the important tricks in the all important metallurgical side of things.Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 Brooks Airways – Perth’s leading charter flight operators ops@brooksairways.com – 1300AIRWAY K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling ryan@k-drill.com.auWe use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.comBuy Money of Mine MERCHJoin our exclusive Money Miners Facebook GroupMoney of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Mike Bevan on MoM(0:03:25)Rare Earths(0:06:40)Hard rock vs clays(0:17:57)Red Flags in rare earths(0:27:55)Meteroric (0:36:56)Downstream rare earth processing(0:41:52)Viridis (0:47:46)Boss Energy (0:52:59)Brazilian Rare Earths(1:03:50)Will Ionic clays take over carbonitites?(1:15:43)Lindian(1:18:14)American Rare Earths(1:26:19)Red Metal 
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Jun 27, 2024 • 1h 7min

Are lithium or rare earths companies investable? (Ahmad Saleem interview)

We’ve got Ahmad back in the studio for an exploration bonanza!This time we’re diving deep into lithium and rare earths, getting into all aspects of what make a good deposit (or discovery), what the common red flags are, what make certain projects stand out, how investors are commonly deceived and a whole heap more. Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 Brooks Airways – Perth’s leading charter flight operators ops@brooksairways.com – 1300AIRWAY K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling ryan@k-drill.com.au We use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.com Buy Money of Mine MERCH Join our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group & request access to the Hooteroo chat group. Money of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Ahmad back on MoM(0:02:12)How to think of lithium(0:07:27)Lithium in Canada(0:11:13)Why James Bay(0:25:24)Aussie projects(0:33:48)Lithium red flags(0:40:50)Rare earths (0:49:29)China's advantage(0:52:38)Ionic Clays(0:58:06)Is BRE worth the fuss?
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Jun 25, 2024 • 50min

“Mystery” buyer snaps up Spartan stake

It’s straight into the Murchison as all fingers point to Ramelius (RMS) as the buyer of a parcel of Spartan (SPR) stock, before we go global, diving into the Paladin (PDN) – Fission Uranium (FCU.t) deal.Our final topic was the notable collapse of Sev.en’s deal to buy 51% of Coronado (CRN) from EMG, with a bit of commentary on the broader investment interest from Aussie Superfunds in energy businesses. Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 Brooks Airways – Perth’s leading charter flight operators ops@brooksairways.com – 1300AIRWAY K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling ryan@k-drill.com.au We use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.comBuy Money of Mine MERCHJoin our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group & request access to the Hooteroo chat group.Money of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Introduction(0:01:11)Fingers point to Ramelius(0:14:22)Paladin - Fission confirmed(0:35:16)Sev.en ditched CRN deal(0:42:42)A catching ESG investment environment(0:47:41)Contrasting MD share sales
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Jun 24, 2024 • 56min

Pilbara looks within while Paladin opts to buy

We’re back swinging this week with all sorts of news. Firstly, we dive into Pilbara Minerals (PLS) huge expansion plans, before getting into some juicy news on the pending Karora (KRR.t) Westgold (WGX) deal. It’s then over to uranium land with Paladin (PDN) announcing a potential deal, rumoured to be Fission (FCU.t).We wrap things up with Tianqi’s disgust at the Chilean regulator following SQM-Codelco Atacama deal. Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 Brooks Airways – Perth’s leading charter flight operators ops@brooksairways.com – 1300AIRWAY K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling ryan@k-drill.com.au We use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.com Buy Money of Mine MERCH Join our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group & request access to the Hooteroo chat group. Money of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Introduction(0:01:59)Pilbara look to go all out(0:14:10)Karora reveal takeover offers(0:32:39)Regis/IGO vs South 32(0:37:48)Paladin rumoured to buy Fission(0:48:19)Tianqi disgusted with Chilean regulator 
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Jun 21, 2024 • 1h 34min

A Roundtable with Two Top Mining Investors

We’ve got a belter of a weekend special here, Daniel “Dingo” Harangozo and Sammy Berridge on the show.While Sammy is a familiar face to the Money Miners, we’ve pulled Dingo on for his debut, to pick the brains of a first rate investor in the natural resources space.We had a blast chatting through everything under the sun, from uranium to lithium, Australian energy through to PGMs and all that sits in between. Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectorsdavidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling companyJames@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538Brooks Airways – Perth’s leading charter flight operatorsops@brooksairways.com – 1300AIRWAYK-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drillingryan@k-drill.com.auWe use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.comBuy Money of Mine MERCHJoin our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group & request access to the Hooteroo chat group.(0:00:00)Introduction(0:01:18)Bauxite, Alumina & Aluminium(0:13:56)Indonesian Nickel Laterite misconceptions(0:17:26)WA Energy policy(0:31:13)Baseload Nuclear(0:40:57)Battery Metals(0:51:29)Dingo's Manganese interest(0:57:48)Commodity price torque(0:58:57)WA Gold(1:07:27)Northern Star(1:14:21)East coast Gas(1:20:32)Dingo n Tin(1:26:27)Infrastructure long regions
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Jun 20, 2024 • 56min

The Nuclear debate goes mainstream

It’s all happening today, with the nuclear debate ramping up and going mainstream naturally getting us chatting.MinRes (MIN) dropped a late one yesterday, shutting down their Yilgarn iron ore operations plus we got Ahmad on for a special chat about Queensland copper, and a potential “discovery” by Anglo. Resolute (RSG) re-wrote some of the terms of their Ravenswood sale which sees some cash coming in the door, and Rox (RXL) updated the market on their recoveries at Youanmi.  Sign-up for the Director’s Special All information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. The hosts of Money of Mine (MoM) are not financial professionals. MoM and our Contributors are not aware of your personal financial circumstances. Before making any investment decision, you should consult a licensed financial, legal or tax professional. MoM doesn’t operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any information or advice given. MoM strive to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this podcast but we don’t make any representation or warranty that it’s accurate or up to date. Any views expressed by the hosts of MoM are their opinion only and may contain forward looking statements that may not eventuate. MoM will not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or indirect loss arising from any use of information in this podcast. Thank you to our Partners: VRIFY – Communicate in 3D grant@vrify.com GetWet Solutions – Innovative bladder tanks for mobile water storage Matt.hall@getwetsolutions.com.au - +61 475 627 569 DSI Underground – Ground support gurus https://www.dsiunderground.com/contact Silverstone – Energy solutions for your business kenny@sstone.com.au CRE Insurance – Insurance Brokers for the Construction, Resources and Energy sectors davidh@creinsurance.com.au - +61 2 9493 6100 WA Water Bores – WA’s premier water well drilling company James@wawaterbores.com.au - +61 429 695 538 Brooks Airways – Perth’s leading charter flight operators ops@brooksairways.com – 1300AIRWAY K-Drill – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling ryan@k-drill.com.au We use SPARK - Market data for active ASX Traders - https://sparktrader.com Buy Money of Mine MERCHJoin our exclusive Money Miners Facebook Group & request access to the Hooteroo chat group.Money of Mine on YouTube + Twitter(0:00:00)Introduction(0:02:08)Nuclear goes mainstream(0:18:43)MinRes flick off Yilgarn(0:29:33)Have Anglo made a discovery?(0:41:38)Resolute lock in cash(0:48:20)How refractory is Rox's Youanmi?

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