“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

The podcast discusses Coinbase's innovative HR policies, including 'no politics at work' stance. They delve into talent evaluation, relationship dynamics, and the importance of empowering talent aligned with the company's mission. Also, exploring work trials in the hiring process and promoting diversity, pay equity, and leadership development within the organization.

Elizabeth Patterson, Partner at Sapphire Ventures, shares insights on finding CPO roles, engaging with VC talent partners, and recruiting top executives. The podcast covers the importance of cultural fit in recruitment, building relationships with talent partners, and navigating challenges in the venture capital world.

In this episode, Nolan and special guest co-host Colleen McCreary delve into diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) with Mita Mallick of Carta. Mita is the Head of Inclusion, Equity and Impact at Carta and the author of Reimagine Inclusion. They discuss the benefits of cross-cultural marketing, how DEI roles aren't set up for success in tech companies, inclusion as a business driver, and successful career succession planning.Want more Colleen? Check out her DEI Roundtable episode here (https://hrheretics.substack.com/p/colleen-mccreary-on-layoffs-m-and-7cb) and our 3rd ever episode interviewing Colleen about her career ups and downs (https://hrheretics.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web&r=39tmjr)SPONSOR: AttioAttio is the next generation of CRM. It’s powerful, flexible and easily configures to the unique way your startup runs, whatever your go-to-market motion. The next era deserves a better CRM. Join OpenAI, Replicate, ElevenLabs and more at https://bit.ly/AttioHRHereticsWe highly recommend you subscribe to HR Brew: a free daily newsletter for people leaders and operators https://bit.ly/hrbrewTIMESTAMPS:* (00:00) Introduction * (01:09) Welcome to HR Heretics* (01:31) Intro to Mita Malik* (02:56) Shout Out to HR Brew https://bit.ly/hrbrew* (04:00) Mita's Book Reimagine Inclusion* (05:42) Mita's Career in DEI* (08:52) The Importance of Inclusion in Business* (14:37) Sponsor: Attio* (15:40) Measuring Success of Inclusion* (20:54) The Role of Leadership in Diversity* (28:55) The Myth of Meritocracy* (30:02) Realities of Career Progression* (31:36) Talent Management* (34:59) The Importance of Honest Feedback* (38:12) The Role of Inclusion in Competitive Advantage* (49:05) The Impact of Generational Shifts on Workplace Norms* (49:55) WrapLINKS: Mita Mallick’s book Reimagine Inclusion: Debunking 13 Myths to Transform Your WorkplaceKEEP UP WITH MITA, COLLEEN, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINMita: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mita-mallick-2b165822/Colleen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleenmccrearychiefpplofficer/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

This segment is sparked by a recent viral video of a layoff recorded by an employee. Kelli and Nolan cover the recent layoffs at Google and Cloudflare, how treatment of an employee during the layoff impacts both the employee and employer, and how companies should handle parting ways with an employee in 2024. Forward this to any HR Pro who needs to hear it - and tell them to subscribe: https://hrheretics.substack.com/.Timestamps:(00:00) Special segment alert(00:17) January is the biggest month in the last 20 years for layoffs in tech(01:10) Kelli's take(02:41) Bad behavior, bad policies and the need for big tech companies to be called out for doing rolling layoffs(04:32) Google layoffs(05:20) Cloudflare employee records her layoff(06:10) The litmus test of being part of a team (not just HR teams)(07:03) When CEOs think they can get away with bad behavior since other companies do it(08:05) What happens when you don't treat employees in good faith(10:05) Accountability checks on companies during layoffs(11:20) Back to the golden rule(11:41) Important reminder for employersGET IN TOUCH WITH NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINNolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/HR Heretics is a podcast from the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more at turpentine.co This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

Brigette McInnis-Day, the Chief People Officer of UIPath, shares her expertise on HR leadership in high-growth companies. She delves into the intricacies of M&A, using the Looker acquisition as a case study for effective cultural integration. Brigette emphasizes the importance of pay transparency and equity, especially following a public compensation incident at UIPath. She also discusses innovative strategies for recruiting and building a strong company culture while learning from HR failures and prioritizing the right tools.

This segment is dedicated to covering what rising mid-career HR professionals really want to know. Janelle Lopez, an incredible HR professional, is brought in to interview us about her next move. Janelle, who worked at Yahoo and SurveyMonkey, has 12 years of transformative experiences under her belt, yet finds herself faced with biases and apprehensions from CEOs and founders reluctant to hire a 'number two'. Kelli and Nolan offer advice about taking control of the narrative during the hiring process and leaning into work trials. Forward our substack to any HR Pro who needs to hear it - and tell them to Subscribe: https://hrheretics.substack.comTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro & Janelle’s background(01:46) What should Janelle’s next steps be?(02:07) The Debate: Number One or Number Two Role?(07:45) Overcoming Biases and vhallenges during the search(08:14) The reframe: loyalty and learning(15:45) Imposter syndrome(17:02) Work TrialsGET IN TOUCH WITH JANELLE, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINJanelle:https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelle-lopez-29997a4/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

The podcast discusses the flaws of traditional interviews, the concept of work trials, and the importance of spending time with candidates. It highlights Linear's move to work trials, where candidates are paid to work on real projects. The speakers emphasize the value of assessing skills and fit in a realistic work environment and encourage HR professionals to consider implementing work trials for improved hiring and business impact.

Katelin Holloway, former VP of People at Reddit and founding partner at VC firm 776, shares insights on breaking into venture and developing a founder-focused approach. They discuss the benefits of advising relationships, the need to deliver value, and the challenges faced by HR professionals in the venture capital industry. Holloway also emphasizes the power of genuine help and pivotal career moments in building high-performing companies.

Matt Oberhardt, Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, discusses the complexities of executive recruiting, emphasizing the importance of precision in referencing and maintaining professionalism. He also provides advice for founders, talks about veterans transitioning into start-ups, and addresses the job market in 2024.

Jen Trzepacz, or JT as she's widely known, is a Silicon Valley vet (Yahoo, EA, Salesforce, Living Social) and currently the CPO of SymphonyAI. JT joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to talk about how HR needs to be expertly aligned with the business bottom line, how to do transparency around compensation well, how to recruit the best talent, navigating complicated CEO relationships, and takes us on a trip down memory lane for her biggest F-ups.HR Heretics is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co--SPONSORS: Lattice | Continuum✅ Discover HR software that drives performance with Lattice: https://www.lattice.com/hrhereticsHigh performance and great culture should never be at odds; they’re better together. With Lattice People Management Platform, companies efficiently run people programs that create enviable cultures where employees want to do their best work. Serving 1000s of customers of all sizes. Learn why companies from Slack to the LA Dodgers choose Lattice. https://www.lattice.com/hrheretics✅ Hire Fractional Executives with Continuum using this link: https://bit.ly/40hlRa9Have you ever had a negative experience hiring executives? Continuum connects executives and senior operators to venture-backed tech companies for fractional and full-time roles. You can post any executive-level role to Continuum’s marketplace and search through our database of world-class, vetted leaders. There is no hidden cost, you only pay the person you hire. And you can cancel at any time. www.Joincontinuum.com–KEEP UP WITH JT, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINJT: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jetrzepacz/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/–TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview and Intro(04:33) Jen's biggest F-ups in her career(07:35) The merit files of Yahoo and the ripple effects(15:12) JT's thoughts on comp transparency today(20:09) Sponsor - Lattice | Continuum(21:54) Making hard trade offs and understanding competitive differentiation(41:10) When the relationship between a CEO and CPO doesn't work(47:01) JT's best hire and her secret weapon in the candidate experience(51:49) JT's favorite interview question that gets the best signal on candidates(55:46) Chief people officers are going to have to deal with AI This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com