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theSkimm
The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
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Jan 25, 2023 • 30min
Amy Griffin on Stepping Back Into Her Career
For Amy Griffin, being one of the most successful venture capitalists actually has a lot in common with being a college athlete. Amy played volleyball at the University of Virginia, and now as the founder and managing partner of G9 Ventures, she helps early-stage startups perform their best in a different kind of arena. And some of the companies she’s coached include Goop, Athletic Greens, and Bumble. This week, we ask Amy about the secret to her coaching magic. Which, spoiler, is all about relationships. In this episode, Amy shares:
How her mentality as a college athlete stayed with her throughout her career
Her experience stepping out of, and stepping back into, the workforce
How she supports founders through the good times – and the bad
Her approach to relationship-building
How founders can prepare for an uncertain economic environment
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Jan 18, 2023 • 26min
Emily Hikade on Going from CIA Officer to Entrepreneur
From navigating war zones to negotiating with affiliates of terrorist organizations, Emily Hikade lived for the thrill of working as a CIA officer. But a near death experience at work made her realize: it was time to try a different kind of adventure. While in East Africa, Emily worked nights to start her luxury sleepwear brand, Petite Plume. Today, Emily shares how working in diplomacy prepared her for the challenges of being a founder and CEO.In this episode, Emily Hikade shares:
Why she knew she’d have an international career from an early age
The moment she started feeling vulnerable in her CIA career
What a near-death experience put into perspective for her
How she started her business while working full-time and being a mom of three
Advice on how to know which investors are worth working with
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Jan 11, 2023 • 31min
Pinky Cole on Helping Others Win
Pinky Cole came up with her business, Slutty Vegan, in her apartment in Atlanta. She started by taking orders through Instagram DMs and eventually expanded to multiple locations outside of ATL. Now, her company’s worth $100 million. But she says: she wouldn’t have gotten there without hitting rock bottom first. Today, how Pinky found her success, and why she wants to help people in the Black community find theirs too. In this episode, Pinky shares:
Her favorite recipe from her new book, Eat Plants B*tch
How a grease fire that destroyed her restaurant was actually a blessing
Her philosophy on success – and why it’s not about being the only one winning
Why giving up entrepreneurship and returning to a 9-5 job was the hardest thing she’s done in her career
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Jan 4, 2023 • 30min
Kimberly Brown on How to Level Up at Work
When Kimberly Brown wrote a high school paper about her dream of becoming a social worker, she knew helping people would be central to her work. She ended up in higher ed as a career counselor. And after she helped her first student get a job, she was hooked. Since then, Kimberly founded her own company to help people – especially women of color – find meaningful work and level up in their careers. In this episode, Kimberly shares:
How celebrating her wins has helped her mental health
Her advice to mid-career women on how to find that next step
Who might be missing from your professional development network
Why the transition from higher ed to a corporation was the hardest career challenge she’s overcome
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Dec 28, 2022 • 17min
2022 Year in Review
On this special episode of 9 to 5ish, Carly and Danielle take listeners through their favorite stories and moments from 2022. In this episode, Carly and Danielle share:
Their favorite moments from guest lightning round answers
How prioritizing mental and physical health came up in nearly every episode
Why many of their guests had to rethink their professional identities
The people who got our guests through the year – and why they’re so important
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Dec 21, 2022 • 31min
Carey Mulligan on Being Bold in the Face of Rejection
Carey Mulligan was rejected from several drama schools when she was a teenager. But instead of giving up, she sent a letter to a famous actor she’d met once. That letter led to a networking dinner, then to an audition for “Pride and Prejudice", and ultimately, her first role. Today, Carey shares how being bold in the face of rejection landed her in films on the big screen. In this episode, Carey shares:
Why she reached out to Julian Fellowes for advice on pursuing acting
How she navigated the industry without formal training or experience
The hardest play she’s ever done – and why her director almost canceled it
Why doing a press tour 3.5 weeks after having her kid helped her postpartum depression
Her favorite episode of her new Amazon-exclusive podcast, “I Hear Fear”
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Dec 14, 2022 • 30min
Ashley Mills on Growing from Feedback
Ashley Mills started in the mailroom at the talent agency CAA and worked her way up to becoming a talent agent. But after a decade there, she took a leap of faith and became the founder of obé Fitness, an on-demand exercise company. And Ashley says that on her journey as a founder, she had to listen to a lot of feedback – and grow from it – to be the leader she is today. In this episode, Ashley Mills shares:
How she uses exercise to gear up for new challenges
The list of things you should think about before becoming an entrepreneur
How the pandemic allowed Obé Fitness to shine
Why getting feedback from her team was the hardest thing she’s endured in her career
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Dec 7, 2022 • 29min
Lisa Ling on Conquering Self Doubt
Lisa Ling started working as a professional journalist when she was only a teenager. Her job flew her across the world as she covered the drug wars in South America to democracy movements in China. She’s grown to be a pro at telling other people’s stories. But she says: advocating for herself is the hardest thing she’s ever done. In this episode, Lisa shares:
The reporting experiences she had as a teen (alongside Anderson Cooper)
Why her two male agents told her to leave negotiating to them
The one lesson she wishes her young self learned
How having kids reframed her boundaries around how far she’d go for her job
Why it’s key for women of color to learn to advocate for each other in the workplace
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Nov 2, 2022 • 32min
Jill Koziol and Liz Tenety on Empowering Moms
Back in 2015 Jill Koziol and Liz Tenety realized: there wasn’t any empowering content for millennial moms. Instead, there were outdated tropes about what moms should be – and what they shouldn’t. That sparked the idea for their company, Motherly, a digital platform centering moms through non-judgmental content about parenthood, being a working parent, and everything in between. And today, Jill and Liz share how motherhood expanded and nourished their sense of self.In this episode, Jill and Liz share:
One of the most shocking learnings from their State of Motherhood survey
Why reclaiming your power by setting time for yourself is key
The wake up call that told Jill she needed to prioritize her health
Why Liz reduced her duties as co-founder
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Oct 26, 2022 • 36min
Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers on Finding Your Creative Partner
Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers were writing and producing movies when they realized: it was time to switch to TV. After meeting 1:1, they decided to enter that world together. Because when you know, you know. Since then, they’ve cultivated a partnership spanning nearly two decades. And they say that trust and honesty were key in creating Shondaland. AKA: the company behind our binge worthy faves like Bridgerton, Scandal, and Grey’s Anatomy. In this episode, Shonda and Betsy share:
How ABC execs reacted to the Grey’s Anatomy pilot (spoiler: not good)
Why skills you’ve learned at old jobs are always useful
What their panic button is + why it’s key to supporting each other
How they set up an environment for their employees to thrive – and why they love it
A Skimm of their book “Inside Bridgerton”
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