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The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
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Sep 20, 2023 • 33min
Alicia Menendez on Avoiding the "Likability Trap" at Work
Alicia Menendez, MSNBC anchor, award-winning journalist, and host of the Latina to Latina podcast, was so concerned about being likable at work that she wrote a whole book about it. She even created a name for that pressure women feel to be amenable in the office – "the likability trap." And as an on-camera journalist, she’s fallen into that trap throughout her career. In this episode, we spoke with Alicia about her journey with likability, how that affected her professional and personal wellbeing, and her recommendations for carving out your own professional identity. In this episode, shares:
Why she didn’t go into politics like her father
How she’s dealt with the pressure of other people’s expectations
What she’s done to carve out her own leadership style and professional identity
How she talks to her daughters about likability
Her advice for avoiding getting caught up in the trap, and getting your coworkers and managers to do the same
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Jul 26, 2023 • 34min
Emily Tisch Sussman on What Happened After Her Kids “Killed” Her Career
For over a decade, Emily Tisch Sussman was one of the top political strategists in the country, advising Democratic candidates and campaigns. Then, after having three children in four years, and faced with no childcare during a global pandemic, Emily realized she couldn’t get back to the top of her game… or back in the game at all. So, she stepped away from politics and the professional identity she had known for 15 years. Now, after going through her own major pivot, she’s talking to other women about their career journeys on the 'She Pivots' podcast. In this episode, shares:
The line she used that got her every job she’s had
Why she wrote an article saying her children “killed” her career – and how she felt after writing it
Why she wasn’t connecting to the traditional narratives around being a working mother
Her advice for women who’ve also had to shift their professional identities
What it'll take for politicians to pass policies that better support families
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Jul 19, 2023 • 31min
Hill House Home Founder Nell Diamond on Paving the Way as an Influencer and Entrepreneur
When Hill House Home first started, founder and CEO Nell Diamond wasn’t focused on selling the now-famous “Nap Dress”, or cultivating her Instagram presence. Rather, the brand started as a bedding company, and Nell’s Instagram was a space for her creativity. Seven years later, the Nap Dress is a cult-favorite, selling out in minutes, Nell’s created the model for the influencer-entrepreneur, and Hill House is now valued at $150M.In this episode, shares:
Why she followed her instincts to go into fashion, despite people telling her it wasn’t a “serious” profession
What her first job at Abercrombie taught her
Why you don’t need to be a natural risk-taker to be an entrepreneur
The thing she wishes more executives would understand
The tools she’s leaned on as a manager and executive
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Jul 12, 2023 • 30min
Elizabeth Chambers on Rebuilding and Healing
Elizabeth Chambers has been through… a lot in the past few years. But the founder and CEO of BIRD Bakery isn’t letting her ex-husband or the headlines define her. She’s focused on expanding her business (which now has four locations) and helping her family heal. This week, we spoke to Elizabeth about how she’s found professional and personal stability.In this episode, shares:
Why she started BIRD Bakery
How she’s set boundaries in her professional and personal life
What’s helped her on her healing journey – and why there’s no one size fits all path
Her outlook on parenting
How she’s learned to sort through advice
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Jul 5, 2023 • 28min
Lunya Founder Ashley Merrill on the Misconceptions About Being a Working Parent
Ashley Merrill, founder and chairwoman of the restwear brand Lunya, started the company when she was pregnant. As she built her brand, she was also growing her family, and her big career moments and her big parenting moments always seemed to align. On this episode, we spoke with Ashley about the misconceptions that being a parent is just a part time job, why we need to speak up about childcare support, and how she’s shifted her career as her children have gotten older. In this episode, Ashley shares:
Why we need to adjust our expectations about being a working parent
How she made the decision to hire a CEO for Lunya
What it was like to run two businesses during COVID
Why the flexibility of entrepreneurship isn’t always a good thing
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Jun 28, 2023 • 31min
Isa Watson on How She Stopped Obsessing Over Achievements
For most of her career, Isa Watson felt like she was living somebody else’s life. She started out as a chemist working her way up the academic ranks, and then she became a world-traveling VP at JP Morgan. And a lot of people online started to take notice of her impressive career. Isa felt she was always chasing the validation of a ‘30 under 30’ or ‘40 under 40’ list, while neglecting her relationships and her own happiness. So, she stopped obsessing over that public praise. And founded Squad, the app that provides the easy and fun way to talk to your friends – away from social media. In this episode, Isa shares:
How she’s dealt with the pressure of other people’s expectations
The life event that put everything into perspective for her
How she rebuilt her relationship with herself
Why she added 'professional skydiver' to her resume
Her advice for setting better boundaries with social media
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Jun 21, 2023 • 31min
PR Expert Lauren Wesley Wilson on Making Competitive Industries More Inclusive
Lauren Wesley Wilson worked for politicians and crisis comms firms for years before she decided to start her own organization, ColorComm. ColorComm started as a luncheon series over ten years ago, and now has grown to become the nation’s leading women’s platform addressing diversity & inclusion across the communications, marketing, advertising, and media industries. This week, Lauren told us how she sought out to make the notoriously competitive communications industry more inclusive. In this episode, Lauren shares:
How she navigated a cutthroat industry when she was starting out
Why she knew she needed to start ColorComm
What she gave up to found ColorComm
How she made the time and space for her personal life
The goals she created for her personal life
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Jun 14, 2023 • 36min
Erin and Sara Foster on How to Take Career Risks
You know Erin and Sara Foster as the sister-act behind the VH1 hit show “Barely Famous”, the co-founders of the fashion brand Favorite Daughter, and as the creative minds who’ve helped brands such as Bumble and the Mirror. After growing up in the entertainment world, the sisters not only decided to take on that industry, but also to take on fashion and investing. We spoke to the Fosters about the value of taking career risks – and why they’ve decided to redefine what success means to them.In this episode, Erin and Sara share:
The unexpected famous person they are related to
What they think of the “nepo baby” label
Why accolades can actually be depressing
How their relationship has changed now that they’re in business together
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Jun 7, 2023 • 28min
Nyakio Grieco on What They Don’t Tell You About Entrepreneurship
Nyakio Grieco has been paving the way for inclusive beauty and supporting Black entrepreneurs for her whole career. She launched her first beauty brand, Nyakio Beauty, in 2002. Then in 2020, she launched Thirteen Lune, the e-commerce platform dedicated to elevating Black and Brown beauty founders. While Nyakio is one of the most celebrated entrepreneurs in the industry, the road to the top was paved with hurdles. Including shuttering and relaunching her original brand, watching that brand take off after she sold it, and starting over as a founder at 47. In this episode, Nyakio shares:
Her perspective on failure
How her optimism has served her throughout her career
Why she’s focused on bringing her friends along on her journey
How she stopped being a “people-pleaser”
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May 10, 2023 • 24min
Bonus Episode: Author Avery Carpenter Forrey on Pivoting Your Career
To wrap up this season of 9 to 5ish, we’ve got a bonus episode with author Avery Carpenter Forrey. She was one of the first employees at theSkimm, who pivoted her career to become a writer. Her highly-anticipated debut novel, Social Engagement, drops on May 23rd, and explores millennial wedding culture, class, and relationships. This week, we spoke to Avery about how she pulled off the pivot, what tactical steps she took to get started, and how she maintained relationships with her former colleagues. Plus, she shares what it’s like to be a new mother while promoting her book. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices