
9 to 5ish with theSkimm
The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
Latest episodes

Jun 5, 2024 • 29min
Drunk Elephant Founder Tiffany Masterson on Trusting Your Gut in Business
Tiffany Masteron’s grandma told her the name “Drunk Elephant” was the most asinine thing she’d ever heard. Granny wasn’t the only one – her friends thought so too. But Tiffany never bent when it came to her vision of the company, even though she was a stay-at-home mom with zero experience in skincare. Instead, she had this gut feeling about her ingredient formulation and trusted it was different enough to take the company far. Spoiler alert: it did. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Tiffany shares:
Why she chose to disrupt stay-at-home mom life to become an entrepreneur
When she realized her first entrepreneurial journey was kinda sketchy
How she discovered the Drunk Elephant “Suspicious Six” philosophy – and why it works
The moment she knew her company had “made it” (hello, Sephora)
Her response when consumers claim Drunk Elephant markets to kids
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May 8, 2024 • 33min
Christy Turlington Burns on Going from Model to Maternal Health Advocate
In the 1990s, Christy Turlington posed alongside icons like Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell, and Linda Evangelista as one of the world’s first supermodels. She retired by 25 before going to college, earning her degree, and getting married. Then came her first baby – and a life-changing birthing experience that would inform her future work and advocacy. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Christy shares:
The benefits of her sister marrying her brother-in-law (hint: holidays are a breeze)
Why she has “survivors’ guilt” about getting out of the modeling industry unscathed
Her thoughts on building a career out of being a supermodel
Her traumatic birthing story and how it led to the founding Every Mother Counts
Advice on how to advocate for yourself in medical settings
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May 1, 2024 • 35min
Jordan Taylor and Edith Cooper on Running a Business as Mother and Daughter
At 59, Edith Cooper never thought she’d make a career pivot. She spent nearly 30 years working her way up at Goldman Sachs, but then, she was approached to co-found a company called Medley. Who was the other co-founder? Jordan Taylor, AKA her daughter. The mom and daughter duo launched Medley, a coaching platform equipping Millennial-aged workers with the skills they need to be dynamic, inclusive, and authentic leaders. In this episode, Jordan and Edith share:
Whether Jordan calls Edith “mom” or “Edith” in the workplace
The parts of her Wall Street HR career that Edith misses
Why we forget to support middle-level managers – and how Medley solves for it
The moments Jordan relies on Edith as “mom” vs. “co-founder”
Why boundary setting is crucial to success as co-founders who are friends or family
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Apr 24, 2024 • 28min
YSE Beauty Founder Molly Sims on Leaving a Job with Dignity
Kentucky-born model Molly Sims never met a biscuit she didn’t like. Her southern charm brought her to college at Vanderbilt University, where she made the boldest move of her career: quitting her pre-law studies to become a full time model. Molly was in her early 20s, alone, and homesick halfway across the world. But with placements on the cover of Sports Illustrated, French Vogue and more, it’s safe to say she made a name for herself. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Molly shares:
Why southern sorority culture wasn’t for her
How her mother encouraged her to think beyond the US for her career + life experience
Why she’d never want her daughter to become a model
The secret to building resilience and the “thick skin” that helped her survive the modeling industry
How confronting her mental health challenges helped her be OK with work curveballs
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Apr 17, 2024 • 30min
Drybar Founder Alli Webb on Scaling a $200+ Million Dollar Business without a College Degree
Alli Webb was a stay-at-home mom for five years when she realized she needed to get out of the house more. So she started a mobile hair business. She’d go house-to-house and offer $40 blowouts to moms in LA, something that pretty much no one was doing at the time. She soon opened her first brick and mortar and called it Drybar. 100+ locations later, Alli sold the company for more than $200 million. All without a college degree or formal business training. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Alli shares:
The sunshine and beach-haired days of her childhood growing up in Boca Raton
How having parents who operated a small biz gave her life lessons in entrepreneurship
Why it felt intoxicating building and scaling Drybar, plus the mental cost that came with it
How her divorce, son’s visit to rehab, and burnout led to her book, “The Messy Truth”
Why she felt intimidated when fundraising + curating the Drybar board – and how she got through it
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Apr 10, 2024 • 26min
Christine Blasey Ford on Detaching Yourself from the Outcome
Before September 2018, the public didn’t know Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. She was a busy mom and professor at Palo Alto University and Stanford. Then, she leveled a sexual assault accusation against Judge Brett Kavanaugh, a SCOTUS nominee. She testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee and 5 million people tuned in. From then on, any concept of a private life went out the window. Christine needed security to go…well, anywhere. Strangers sent her and her family death threats. Five years later, Christine shares how she navigates her new normal, plus the story behind the headlines and soundbites. In this episode, Christine shares:
The behind-the-scenes leading up to her testimony against Judge Kavanaugh
What she makes of her unique connection to Anita Hill
Suggestions on what to say to sexual assault survivors instead of “I believe you”
What parts of working on her memoir, “One Way Back”, were therapeutic – and which were re-traumatizing
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Apr 3, 2024 • 31min
Zibby Owens on Starting a Career Later in Life
Zibby Owens witnessed first-hand the payoff of great entrepreneurship as she watched her father build his company, Blackstone, from the ground up. She freelanced as a writer earlier in her career. She focused on raising her kids for 10+ years. Then her marriage ended. So she spent her weekends without the kids rekindling her love of literature – and developing a media empire focusing on all things books. In this episode, Zibby shares:
The story behind her iconic color-coordinated bookshelf
What she learned watching her father build his private equity business, Blackstone
Her recent Vogue article she published – and why she almost wishes she hadn’t
How her podcast became the vehicle to sell her first book
Why building your personal brand is key in almost any industry today
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Mar 27, 2024 • 30min
Ancestry CEO Deb Liu on Taking Your Power Back at Work
Ancestry CEO Deb Liu grew up in one of the only Asian families in South Carolina. To avoid being teased, she mostly kept to herself. It wasn’t until Deb got to Stanford Business School when she realized: she had to learn to speak up. That realization spurred her long career in Silicon Valley. But Deb says, without some openness and vulnerability from herself and others, it never would’ve happened. In this episode, Deb shares:
Why she should’ve been fired from her first product management role
How being open and vulnerable with her boss actually helped her career
Key moments from her tech-heavy product career at eBay + Facebook
Why being a “strategic introvert” allowed her to contribute more effectively at work
Her most used tip from her new book, Take Your Power Back
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Mar 20, 2024 • 25min
Mandy Moore on Not Letting Competition Distract You
The late-90s bubblegum pop music defined Mandy Moore’s career. She always knew she was her record label’s answer to Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Mandy also knew she’d never be them – and that was okay with her. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Mandy shares advice on how to know your competition without becoming distracted by it. In this episode, Mandy shares:
The boy band she’d tour with again
Why having parents who didn’t want to manage her was the secret to her success
How she managed to be unbothered by the pop industry’s comparison loop
Her go-to practices for easing her public speaking anxiety
A skimm of her latest project, The Boars’ Nest
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Mar 13, 2024 • 30min
Alex Wagner on Being Persistent to Get What You Want
Growing up with a politico father in Washington D.C., Alex Wagner initially swore off any career that dealt with politics. 25-ish years later, Alex is the primetime anchor of MSNBC's “Alex Wagner Tonight,” a show about the news and politics shaping our world. Talk about a 180. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Alex tells us how doing everything she was not “supposed” to do jump-started her media career. In this episode, Alex shares:
How a pair of vintage heels nearly ruined her job interview with George Clooney
The influence her father’s political work had on her own career
How she wiggled her way into media with zero connections in the industry
Why writing her memoir was the hardest thing she’s done professionally
The lessons she learned from Rachel Maddow when she took over her primetime slot
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