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The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
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Mar 9, 2022 • 34min
Fawn Weaver on Building Company Culture
Working for Fawn Weaver isn’t your typical 9 to 5. The founder and CEO of Uncle Nearest Premium Whiskey operates her business like a family. Think: not just one-on-ones or status meetings, but 24/7 support for employees. So how did she build a company like that? She sought out people who had similar values and fit with her leadership style. And she spent a lot of time on the hiring process. In this episode, Fawn shares.
How she found her leadership style – and learned to stop people-pleasing
Her go-to interview question to determine if someone’s a fit for Uncle Nearest
Why she won’t hire anyone based off a Zoom interview anymore
How she tells an employee they aren’t the best fit for her team
Why a “family” environment doesn’t work for all employees
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Mar 2, 2022 • 33min
Laurie Segall on How to Create Opportunities
When Laurie Segall first started at CNN as a journalist, she was basically working in the equivalent of “Scriberia” from “Inventing Anna.” But instead of getting discouraged, Laurie used that opportunity to build out CNN’s tech coverage, and created a new role at the company in the process. And she ultimately became CNN’s senior technology correspondent. This week, Laurie shares how she used her different jobs - good and bad - as stepping stones to work towards the career she wanted. Now, Laurie’s her own boss, as the founder and CEO of Dot Dot Dot, a media venture exploring technology through the human lens.In this episode, Laurie shares:
How she turned disappointment into motivation
How she networked her way into major interviews with tech CEOs
Why every job (even the bad ones) can get you closer to your career goals
Why she decided to leave CNN and start her own company
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Feb 23, 2022 • 31min
Michelle Cordeiro Grant On How to Connect with Customers
Ever worn a really uncomfortable bra and thought “Who even invented this?” Michelle Cordeiro Grant was one of those people. She worked for major lingerie and underwear brands before starting her own, Lively, after she saw how other brands didn’t put their customer - or comfort - first. And it turns out: flipping the script worked. Lively sold out of inventory in its first two weeks. And in 2019, Lively was acquired for a casual $105 million dollars. This week, we talked to Michelle about how to listen to your customers. In this episode, Michelle shares:
Her philosophy on marketing
How to connect with customers
How to make yourself be more extroverted in business
How to learn on the fly
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Feb 16, 2022 • 34min
Anne Wojcicki on Following Your Curiosity
Anne Wojcicki always followed her interests. From sneaking into figure skating rinks as a kid, to taking her interest in genetics to the next level and co-founding the genetics company 23andMe, Anne told us how she’s built her career off curiosity. And as 23andMe has faced challenges from regulators and privacy advocates over the years, Anne had to dig into her passion even more to boost morale. In this episode, Anne shares:
The 23andMe origin story
What boosted morale on her team
Why she actively seeks out feedback from naysayers
How she’s played the long game with building her company
How the tech world has changed for women
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Feb 9, 2022 • 33min
Victoria Beckham and Sarah Creal on Work Partnerships
Victoria Beckham has switched industries three times so far during her career: trading in the Spice Girls for a solo career, then launching her own fashion label. Now, she’s in the midst of her third big pivot: a foray into beauty, via a sustainable luxury brand. And she brought in Sarah Creal, a lifelong product developer who’s worked with everyone from Bobbi Brown to Estée Lauder.In this episode, Victoria and Sarah talk about:
Building credibility by putting product first
Refining long-term business plans
Choosing a co-founder
Standing out in a crowded field
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Feb 2, 2022 • 27min
Nancy Twine on When To Quit Your Day Job
Nancy started her career at Goldman Sachs — but she always knew she wanted to be an entrepreneur. She had grown up helping her grandmother and her mother make natural home-remedies for hair and skin, and realized there was a gaping hole in the beauty market. But she didn’t quit her day job right away: instead, she stayed on the trading room floor for another four years and worked evenings and weekends to run her own business, Briogeo, on the side. Talk about time management skills. In this episode, Nancy talks about:
What she learned on Wall Street during the 2008 financial crash
Figuring out when to quit your day job
Putting product development before branding
Making choices during a company’s early stages
When to think about outside funding for a business
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Jan 26, 2022 • 29min
Rebroadcast: Gayle King On Knowing Your Worth
This week, we’re throwing it back to one of our favorite episodes from last year.What does it actually mean to know your worth at work? This week, we asked the queen of confidence (and of morning TV), Gayle King, how she found hers. She told us her self worth came from years of salary negotiations, building strong support systems, navigating setbacks, and dealing with tough bosses. In this episode, Gayle shares:
Her mindset going into negotiations
How she gained a sense of self worth as a junior reporter
Why tough moments and failure can add to self worth
How she leans on her support system
Why celebrating other people’s success adds to your self worth (hi, Oprah)
How she dealt with being underestimated
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Jan 19, 2022 • 29min
Lindsey Vonn on Mental Toughness
Lindsey Vonn isn’t just physically tough – she’s also known as one of the most mentally strong athletes. She started competing in international skiing competitions when she was just nine years old, and went on to become the most decorated female skier in history, including winning three Olympic Winter Games medals. And along the way, Lindsey dealt with a number of terrifying injuries, which challenged her mental and physical strength. After retiring from professional skiing, Lindsey’s switched arenas, starting her own production company, writing a memoir and leading her own foundation.In this episode, Lindsey talks about:
How competition has served her - and hurt her
Career setbacks and how injuries actually helped her
Learning to trust people she was competing with
Building a risk-tolerant mindset
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Jan 12, 2022 • 33min
Melissa Wood-Tepperberg on Setting Intentions
Melissa Wood-Tepperberg went from working in nightclubs and modeling to becoming one of the first people to start streaming workouts online. That turned into her own health and fitness app, which now has thousands of paying subscribers. Today, Melissa has almost one million Instagram followers and her app, Melissa Wood Health, is a case study at Harvard Business School — despite the fact Melissa never went to college herself.In this episode, Melissa talks about:
How meditation changed her life
Experimenting as a way to figure out your career path
Learning to listen to your gut
How she stopped comparing herself to other people
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Jan 5, 2022 • 28min
Fran Lebowitz on Improvising
Fran Lebowitz found fame as a writer in the 1970’s, when she started out writing movie reviews and magazine columns. She went on to publish two essay collections containing her observations of New York City and the people around her — cementing her as a definitive voice of a generation. In this episode, Fran talks about:
Finding her writing process
Networking without the internet
Improvising when she got writer’s block
Refusing to follow the crowd
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