With Joe Wehbe

At long last, our first interview! This man has been mentioned many times before on the podcast, and has played a significant role in both our lives...   Michael Gill did have a glittering career, as a lawyer, and in various other engagements, but to us he is cherished more as a source of wisdom, companionship and guidance.   He is a man of vocation and dedication, a source of joy and community to all those he encounters. He listens but tries never to judge. He thinks deeply, and often throws around words like 'Helicopter!', 'Interconnectedness,' 'Not bloody siloism!', 'Peace and Joy' and of course, 'Just Be.' He's always there for those who need him, and has a sharp and beautiful sense of humour.    Though he'll say this is no good for his ego, I must say, we consider him to be quite ahead of his time, and he defies almost every stereotype you'd associate with someone of his age and standing in society.  Affectionately dubbed 'Gilly' by those close to him, we wanted to commemorate and capture some of his beautiful insights in an episode. This is dedicated not just to our dear friend, but to the intimate group of Gilly's companions who cherish him as much as we do.   Here is a man who plants the seeds.     SUMMARY:   0:00 Throwback, 'You people waste the now... I don't have that option.' & Intro 7:45 Living in the Now & Anxiety toward the Future 12:30 Struggles living in the 'Present' 16:00 What 'practical' things end up distracting us from life? 20:50 Is it easier for older people to make the most of the present? 25:20 Getting better at appreciating life 30:30 Stepping down from partner at Major Law Firm 40:00 Being between 70 and 80 years of age isn't too bad 43:00 Benefit of admitting what you don't really know in life 45:00 How does your Christian Faith relate to broader awareness? 48:00 The Matthew Perry Story & You can't fool your heart 55:00 Questions about money are always questions about something else 1:02:00 Why do Westerners grow flowers? 1:04:00 No GFC in Cambodia in 2008/9 1:08:27 Gilly's relationship with money 1:12:00 the Gift of not being paid (in money) 1:25:00 What's different about Gilly? (Luke is put on the spot) 1:31:30 Listening to others non-judgmentally 1:39:33 Doubt creates faith 1:41:30 Looking at old beliefs non-judgmentally 1:47:40 Staying on in his old home as a 'widow' & a new understanding of death 1:55:30 How we met Gilly and the journey exploring education 2:02:30 Relflecting on the beginning of Constant Student 2:07:10 Just. Be. 2:11:27 Deep Rest. 2:13:10 'Too busy living it!'

Part 12 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ The conclusion to the series is another first-time idea, very Taleb-inspired, called ‘The Risk See-Saw’. It denotes that, trying to control for Small Risks creates big risks, but trying to avoid big risks makes us more sensitive to small risks… the theory is that most of us spend our entire lives worrying about exactly the opposite things we should be worrying about… and we end up creating them. We hope you enjoyed the series. Thanks, and remember, keep opening Doors for others. For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. FULL WRITTEN BLOG POST ON THE RISK SEE-SAW: FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER: https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year. I hate email newsletters. For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/ I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION: If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/ SUMMARY: 0:00 An example of Hidden Risk 1:48 What the hell is a 'Risk See-Saw'? 14:11 Understanding Risk See-Saw Problems on the societal level. 19:08 Is investing a distraction from the real things in life? 23:20 And now yapping about people who miss the point at work.   26:16 Now yapping about Awareness and tangibility for some reason. Is the economy just b.s.? 32:28 Geez now talking about Voldemort and love. How is this relevant? 36:15 Luke loves Jordan Belfort. Tactics come from ego. 43:01 Get off your high horse Joe. You're not an Ethics Professor. 47:19 The Risk-Takers are actually the conservative ones?

Part 11 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ The first time we’ve discussed ‘The U-Curve of Certainty’, a theory about nature, chance, risk, truth, predictions, generalisations and prescriptions, which helps us cut through the b.s. of life and wasteful planning. In contrast, we get clarity about what we can control and believe in. For the write up of this idea go to the blog: https://withjoewehbe.com/2022/11/11/explaining-the-u-curve-of-certainty/ For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER: https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year. I hate email newsletters. For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/ I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION: If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/ EPISODE SUMMARY:  0:00 The U-Curve Idea  12:00 The importance of long-term, open-ended dreams  16:00 Why there are no degrees in investing  20:00 Apply to Complex Systems, Don't Control.  27:00 Using the U-Curve without living in your head  32:00 Apply fundamentals, not tactics  42:00 Using U-Curve to find romance, learn sales, learn anything

Part 10 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ We discuss the value of asymmetric bets and long-term faith in oneself. The result? We can surrender. For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER: https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year. I hate email newsletters. For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/ I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION: If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/

Part 9 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ We return to our beloved Nassim Nicholas Taleb and his landmark idea — Antifragility. How can we discuss the Myth of Failure and Re-Framing of Risk, without touching on Antifragile? For past blog post on this check out here, or visit episodes 180-194 for the episodes we did on Taleb. For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER: https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year. I hate email newsletters. For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/ I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION: If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/

Part 8 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ Again revisiting our beloved Alan Watts, and the 75 Years of time thought experiment. When we can write the story of our lives, what inevitable conclusion do we all come to? For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER: https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year. I hate email newsletters. For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/ I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION: If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/

Part 7 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ We dicusss Alan Watt’s Chinese Farmer Parable, why it’s impossible to know when an event or circumstance is good or bad… oh, and we explore the fear of death.   For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.   FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER:   https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year.   I hate email newsletters.    For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/ I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION:  If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/

Part 6 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ The Slingshot Principle is one of the oldest ideas on the WJW Blog, and details when the worst-case scenario is actually the best-case scenario from one perspective. Examples include the story of Nelson Mandela.    For the written articulation of this idea check out [the blog post] https://withjoewehbe.com/2020/08/31/the-slingshot-principle-why-the-worst-case-scenario-is-the-best-case-scenario/   For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.   FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER:  https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year.   I hate email newsletters.    For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/   I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION:  If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/

Part 5 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ Revisiting the story of Tim Ferriss, who created ‘his own MBA’ by taking the $120k he would have spent on tuition, and investing it directly into companies over two years.   With all my costly mistakes, I empathise with the idea that the only real degree is the experience itself.    For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.   FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER:   https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year.    I hate email newsletters.    For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/  I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION:   If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/

Part 4 of 12, of Season 5: ‘The Myth of Failure an Re-framing of Risk.’ We consolidate an understanding of Carol Dweck’s Fixed vs. Growth Mindset paradigm, with personal examples including the fear of podcasting.   For the rest of the series head to Youtube, Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.   FOR IMPORTANT UPDATES JOIN THE DOORMAN NEWSLETTER:  https://thedoorman.substack.com/ only highly important updates, at this rate 4-5 emails per year.   I hate email newsletters.    For more on me check out https://withjoewehbe.com/everything-joe/  I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT FOR A CONVERSATION:    If you’re open for a no-agenda conversation, for no particular reason, submit a bit about yourself to The Constant Student: https://www.constantstudent.com.au/