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The Great Tech Game Podcast: Geopolitics, Technology, Business and Global Affairs, with Anirudh Suri

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Jul 22, 2024 • 1h 5min

Ep. 17 - Navigating a Post-Globalized World ft. Rana Faroohar of the Financial Times and Author of Don't Be Evil and Homecoming

In this episode of the Great Tech Game podcast, Anirudh Suri welcomes Rana Faroohar, the Global Business Columnist and Associate Editor at the Financial Times and CNN's Global Economic Analyst. Rana discusses the major themes of her three books, which cover the intersection of politics, economics, and technology over the last several decades. She shares her perspective on how the global economy has evolved and the shifts in political and economic power across continents. The conversation dives into the impact of globalization, the concentration of power in finance and tech sectors, and the future of industrial policies. A key focus is on the evolving U.S.-China economic dynamics and the need for nations to adapt their strategies amidst rapid technological changes, Rana's insights on practical advice for policymakers and book recommendations for further reading on these subjects.Chapters01:45 Introducing Rana Faroohar: A Foremost Thinker02:04 Rana's Career and Accomplishments03:46 Diving into Rana's Books and Worldview08:13 From Finance to Tech: Shifts in Power08:50 Homecoming: A Post-Neoliberal World12:55 Globalization and Its Discontents18:51 The Two Americas: Inequality Within Nations24:04 Challenges in the Global Economy28:03 The Future of Globalization and Technology32:20 One World, Two Systems: A Bipolar Future33:04 US Industrial Policies and China's Economic Strategy33:59 The Role of Government in Industrial Strategy36:18 Comparing US and Chinese Economic Models39:25 Antitrust Efforts and Big Tech43:11 Historical Parallels: US-Japan Economic Battle51:24 Manufacturing Renaissance in the US57:27 Balancing Power: Capital vs. Labor01:00:50 Advice for Policymakers and Final ThoughtsBook Links:Anirudh Suri:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38MyRana Faroohar- **Makers and Takers: The Rise of Finance and the Fall of American Business:** https://www.amazon.in/Makers-Takers-Rana-Foroohar/dp/0553447238- **Homecoming: The Path to Prosperity in a Post-Global World:** https://www.amazon.in/Homecoming-Path-Prosperity-Post-Global-World/dp/0593240537- **Don't Be Evil: How Big Tech Betrayed Its Founding Principles -- and All of Us:** https://amzn.in/d/01VKMd4oFollow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)#TechEconomy, #Globalization, #Geopolitics, #Economics, #USChinaRelations, #ManufacturingRenaissance, #SupplyChains, #Financialization, #DigitalTransformation, #IndustrialPolicy, #ClimateChange, #LaborRights, #EconomicInequality, #BigTech, #Regulation, #AIRevolution, #Decentralization, #HistoricalAnalysis, #PolicyMaking, #GlobalAffairs
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Jun 13, 2024 • 1h 14min

Ep. 16 - Reimagining our World's Economic Priorities, with Nobel Laureate Angus Deaton

Renowned economist Angus Deaton discusses challenges in the American economy, inequality, opioid epidemics, globalization's impact, and the future of capitalism and global warming. He shares insights from his book 'Economics in America' and critiques current economic policies, making this a must-listen for those interested in tech, economics, and geopolitics.
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May 24, 2024 • 1h 17min

Ep. 15 - The World in Flux: The Fall of the Neoliberal Order and the Rise of Culture and Class Wars

In this episode of the Great Tech Game podcast, the host Anirudh Suri engages in an in-depth conversation with Professor Gary Gerstle, they discuss the formation and dissolution of political orders, focusing on the New Deal and neoliberal orders, and explore how current global dynamics, particularly the rise of China and India, impact the U.S. political landscape. They delve into the potential shift of the U.S. towards a more state-driven model, the challenges of authoritarianism, and what the future holds for globalization, migration, and class conflict. The discussion also covers the evolving relationship between states and corporations, the populist revolt against cosmopolitanism, Political Order, and the complexities of managing global tech giants. Professor Gerstle provides an analytical framework for understanding these transitions, drawing from his extensive work on political economy and history.00:00 Exploring the New Political Order Amidst US-China Rivalry01:20 Introducing Professor Gary Gerstle and His Work04:18 The Concept of Political Order: A Deep Dive14:31 The Impact of Global Events on Political Orders22:40 The Rise of China and India: Shaping the Global Economy24:35 The Pendulum of American Political Orders34:37 US-China Rivalry: A New Era of State-Driven Models?40:18 Exploring the Thin Line Between Strong States and Authoritarianism42:09 The Role of Judiciary and Constitution in Preventing Authoritarianism44:48 State-Corporation Dynamics: A Tug of War46:36 Global Governance vs. Corporate Power: The Challenge of Tech Giants49:50 Neo-Feudalism and the Future of Global Order51:53 Digital Colonialism and the Future of Global Corporations54:58 The Pendulum Analogy and the Future of Global Politics57:02 Envisioning the Future World Order: Multipolarity and Its Challenges01:02:17 The Future of Class Conflict and Cultural Shifts01:08:57 Navigating the Complex Transition: Advice for LeadersAbout Gary GerstleGary Gerstle arrived in Cambridge in 2014 after a three-decade career in the United States, most recently at Vanderbilt University where he was James G. Stahlman Professor of American History. He is currently Paul Mellon Professor of American History Emeritus, Paul Mellon Director of Research in American History, and Fellow of Sidney Sussex College. He is a historian of the twentieth century, with substantial interests in the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. He received his BA from Brown University and his MA and PhD from Harvard University. He is a Fellow of the British Academy and of the Royal Historical Society.Follow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriLinkedin:   / anirudhsuri  Instagram:   / anirudh_suri  Facebook:   / anirudhsuri.in  Website: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)Book Links:Anirudh Suri:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38MyGary:The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal Order: America and the World in the Free Market Era: https://amzn.in/d/euA2Tq5The Rise and Fall of the New Deal Order, 1930-1980: The Rise and Fall of the New Deal Order, 1930-1980U.S - China rivalry, rise of China, rise of India, geopolitical shifts, state-driven industrial policy, New Deal order, neoliberal order, economic transitions, Pax Americana, multipolar world, national security, economic inequality, class conflict, cosmopolitanism, digital colonialism, authoritarian states, industrial policy, populist revolt, global economy, Politicalorder, US, China, India, Newdeal, Neoliberal, Neoliberalorder, GaryGerstle, AnirudhSuri, GreatTechGame, GreatTechGamePodcast
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May 3, 2024 • 1h 19min

Ep 14. Which Nations are the Most Digitally Competitive? Ft.Bhaskar Chakravorti of The Fletcher School

In an insightful conversation, Bhaskar Chakravorti and Anirudh discuss the profound impact of artificial intelligence (AI) and the digital economy on global growth and India's future. Exploring the transformative capabilities of AI in various sectors such as healthcare, education, and agriculture, they highlight its potential in driving competitiveness, economic growth, and job creation at an unprecedented rate. Special attention is given to the challenges and opportunities India faces in leveraging AI for societal benefits, including the importance of public and private sector collaboration, digital competitiveness, and the strategic approach towards AI innovation for a broad-based, inclusive digital transformation. The conversation also emphasizes the necessity of understanding the digital economy through tools like the Digital Evolution Index and the success of India's digital public infrastructure as a foundation for future advancements.00:00 The AI Revolution and Its Economic Impact00:18 Exploring the Digital Economy's Growth and Challenges01:43 The Great Tech Game Podcast Introduction03:07 Digital Economy: Definitions, Measurements, and Future19:02 Digital Competitiveness and the Evolution Index40:44 Bridging Digital Divides: Gender, Urban, and Rural Gaps41:28 Smartphone Revolution in Indian Agriculture44:37 The Power of AI in Transforming Economies45:58 Global AI Competitiveness and the TRAIN Scorecard54:32 The Future of AI: Opportunities and Challenges01:07:23 AI's Missed Opportunities and Future Potential01:10:58 India's Strategic Approach to AI and Digital Infrastructure01:16:48 Final Thoughts and RecommendationsWebsite: https://digitalplanet.tufts.edu/About Bhaskar ChakravortiBhaskar Chakravorti is the Dean of Global Business at The Fletcher School at Tufts University – America’s oldest exclusively graduate school of global affairs — the founding Executive Director of Fletcher’s Institute for Business in the Global Context and founder and chair of Digital Planet, one of Fletcher’s flagship research programs that studies the impact of technology on lives and livelihoods around the world.Follow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)Book Links:**Slow Pace of Fast Change: Bringing Innovations to Market in a Connected World:** https://amzn.in/d/21vtMLbAnirudh Suri:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My#GenerativeAI, #DigitalEconomy, #AICompetitiveness, #TechInnovation, #DigitalIndia, #GlobalTech, #AIForGood, #FutureOfWork, #DigitalTransformation, #TechPolicy, #DigitalLiteracy, #SustainableTech, #AIethics, #DigitalInfrastructure, #EconomicGrowth, #TechEducation, #AIApplications, #TechSolutions, #DigitalDivide, #InnovationEcosystem
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Apr 15, 2024 • 1h 7min

Ep 13. Will the Tech World Play by Europe's Rules? Ft. Anu Bradford

Hosted by Anirudh with Anu Bradford, this episode of the Great Tech Game podcast delves into the intricate landscape of technology, geopolitics, and regulation. Bradford, a renowned scholar at Columbia Law School and author of crucial works like 'The Brussels Effect' and 'Digital Empires', explores the overwhelming power of tech companies and their consequential failure to govern responsibly. The conversation spans the divergent digital regulation models of the US, China, and the European Union, reflecting on their ideological, cultural, and political bases. Bradford and Anirudh discuss the dynamic evolution of tech regulation, the enduring geopolitical tensions in the US-China tech war, additionally, they assess India's unique digital public infrastructure approach, suggested as a distinct, hybrid model from the major 'digital empires'.Anu H. Bradford, formerly known as Anu Piilola, was born in 1975 and is recognized as a Finnish-American author, law professor, and authority in international trade law. Her accolades include being appointed as the Henry L. Moses Distinguished Professor of Law and International Organization at Columbia Law School in 2014. Bradford is best known for her acclaimed work, "The Brussels Effect: How the European Union Rules the World.”About Anu: https://www.law.columbia.edu/faculty/anu-bradfordChapters00:00 The Power and Responsibility of Tech Giants01:36 Introducing the Great Tech Game Podcast01:54 Spotlight on Professor Anu Bradford and Her Work03:01 Exploring the Concept of Digital Empires06:44 The Evolving Landscape of Tech Regulation17:50 India's Digital Public Infrastructure: A New Model?23:40 The Complex Dance of States, Tech Firms, and Regulation26:42 Navigating the Geopolitical Tech Terrain36:10 Predicting the Future of Digital Empires36:37 The Inevitability of Coexistence Amidst Tensions37:43 US-EU Tech Policy Alignment and Challenges39:57 EU's Tech Strategy Amidst Geopolitical Shifts42:14 Europe's Path to Innovation and Regulatory Balance44:39 The Role of Talent and Innovation in Europe's Tech Future47:50 Assessing Europe's Progress Towards Innovation51:52 AI's Role in the Future of Tech and International Collaboration58:39 The Philosophical Battles Shaping the Digital World01:04:31 Concluding Thoughts and RecommendationsBooks by AnuDigital Empires: The Global Battle to Regulate Technology : https://amzn.in/d/dKo9SIbThe Brussels Effect: How the European Union Rules the World :https://amzn.in/d/iIR3GIBFollow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: www.anirudhsuri.comBook and Podcast: www.greattechgame.comBook Links:Anirudh Suri:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My#innovation, #economicgrowth, #opensource, #LLM, #competition, #industries, #globalcompetition, #economicoutput, #productivity
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Apr 4, 2024 • 1h 9min

Ep 12. Underground Empires: Using Economic Networks for Geopolitical Goals ft. Abe Newman

This episode of the 'Great Tech Game' podcast features a discussion with Professor Abe Newman, a prominent figure at Georgetown University and the co-head of the Mortara Center for International Studies. Professor Newman is also the author of 'The Underground Empire,' a book examining how the U.S. has harnessed the global economy as a tool for weaponized interdependence. The conversation delves into the evolving dynamics of geopolitics, technology, and the economy, addressing how countries, particularly the U.S., have leveraged economic networks and infrastructure as means of coercion and surveillance. Notable topics include the role of companies like SWIFT, TSMC, and Huawei as participants in global economic strategies, the historical precedents of using economic networks for geopolitical ends, and the challenges posed by the entanglement of rivalry and interdependence in current international relations. The discussion underscores the need for a more nuanced economic security state capable of managing the existing interplay between security and economics, while suggesting a trend towards a potentially multipolar world order.About Abraham Newman:Abraham L. Newman, born in 1973, is an American political scientist and professor at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service and Government Department. He also serves as the Director of the Mortara Center for International Studies. Newman's research is dedicated to examining how economic interdependence and globalization have reshaped the landscape of international politics. His insightful contributions have been featured in esteemed publications including the Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, and The New York Times.00:00 The Power Dynamics of Global Markets01:27 Introducing Professor Abe Newman and The Underground Empire02:53 Unveiling the Underground Empire: How the U.S. Weaponizes the Global Economy04:51 Historical Context: From Telegraph Cables to Today's Global Networks15:09 Weaponized Interdependence: The New Geopolitical Leverage24:32 The Challenges of Building Alternatives to U.S. Dominance33:21 Europe's Struggle in the Global Tech Arena34:04 The Future of AI: A New Frontier for Dependency and Power35:34 The Impact of Brexit on the UK's AI Ecosystem35:59 US-China Rivalry: The Weaponization of AI and Economic Tools37:26 The Sustainability of US Economic Dominance44:48 The Role of Private Companies in Geopolitical Strategies45:30 Markets as Battlefields: The New Geo-Economic Landscape01:03:28 The Future of Global Order: Navigating Rivalry and Interdependence01:08:06 Concluding Thoughts and RecommendationsTo know more about Abraham Newmanhttps://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/00336000014RcmSAAS/abraham-newman**Underground Empire: How America Weaponized the World Economy** : https://amzn.in/d/0nvHq4t**The Uses and Abuses of Weaponized Interdependence:** https://amzn.in/d/0ioTh1n**Of Privacy and Power: The Transatlantic Struggle over Freedom and Security :** https://amzn.in/d/ferpltm**Voluntary Disruptions: International Soft Law, Finance, and Power (Transformations in Governance)** : https://amzn.in/d/0rsuGgn**Protectors of Privacy: Regulating Personal Data in the Global Economy :** https://amzn.in/d/fZtnXrFFollow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)Anirudh Suri:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : https://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My
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Mar 23, 2024 • 7min

Ep 11. The new rising powers in a multipolar world ft. Sebastian Mallaby

Full Episode: https://youtu.be/CH-4yCU1BTsIn this compelling episode, host Anirudh Suri converses with Sebastian Mallaby about the shifting dynamics of global power. They delve into the technological and capital trends propelling emerging powers like India, Indonesia, and Vietnam. Highlighting the transition from a bipolar to a multipolar world, Mallaby discusses the complexities and risks associated with this new geopolitical landscape. The conversation examines the decline of American dominance in multilateral institutions and the rise of regional governance structures such as the Quad and AUKUS.00:00 Introduction to Emerging Powers00:48 Demographics and Growth Potential01:57 The Multipolar World Order03:27 Geopolitical and Macro Risks03:48 Challenges of Multilateralism05:05 US Withdrawal from Multilateralism06:27 Rise of Regional Governance**Books**Sebastian:**The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future** - https://amzn.eu/d/0N1LYKo**More Money than God** - https://amzn.eu/d/goWCmMg**The Man Who Knew: The Life & Times of Alan Greenspan -** https://amzn.eu/d/7U4ZzSeAnirudh:The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My)Follow Anirudh here:X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuriYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@anirudh_suriLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suriFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.inWebsite: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/)Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/)#EmergingPowers, #MultipolarWorld, #IndiaChina, #Geopolitics, #GlobalTrends, #FutureOfEconomy, #YoungPopulation, #TechnologicalAdvancements, #GlobalCapital, #AsianGrowth, #DemographicTrends, #USBloc, #ChineseBloc, #IndependentIndia, #EuropeanDynamics, #MediumSizedActors, #Multilateralism, #GlobalRisks, #RegionalGovernance, #BrettonWoodsEra
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Mar 22, 2024 • 3min

Short Clip - Has Power Shifted from Wall Street to Silicon Valley? Ft. Sebastian Mallaby. (Ep.11 - Clip 7)

Join host Anirudh Suri as he delves into a deep conversation with guest Sebastian Mallaby about the shifting dynamics between technology and capital. They discuss the current landscape where technology and venture capital are outshining traditional Wall Street firms, explore the exponential growth driven by advancements like artificial intelligence, and question whether the real power has shifted from financial institutions to tech innovators.
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Mar 22, 2024 • 5min

Was Piketty wrong about capital causing inequality?

Full Episode: https://youtu.be/CH-4yCU1BTs In this episode, host Anirudh Suri engages in an insightful conversation with Sebastian Mallaby about the implications of a tech-driven economic world. They discuss the divergence in global economic trends, the increase and decrease of inequality, and the dynamics between labor and capital. Mallaby provides historical context, referencing Thomas Piketty's theories and examining periods where labor held significant negotiating power, such as the 1950s and 1960s in America. The conversation touches on the reversal of inequality trends post-COVID and stresses the non-deterministic nature of economic cycles. 00:00 Introduction: Tech-Driven Economic Divergence 00:25 Thomas Piketty's Capital and Economic Inequality 01:09 Debunking the Iron Law of Capital 02:28 Recent Trends in U.S. Inequality 03:07 Historical Examples of Labor vs. Capital Rewards 04:31 The Impact of Global Competition on Labor **Books** Sebastian: **The Power Law: Venture Capital and the Making of the New Future** - https://amzn.eu/d/0N1LYKo **More Money than God** - https://amzn.eu/d/goWCmMg **The Man Who Knew: The Life & Times of Alan Greenspan -** https://amzn.eu/d/7U4ZzSe Anirudh: The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri : [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My) Follow Anirudh here: X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/anirudhsuri Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@anirudh_suri Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anirudhsuri/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anirudh_suri Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AnirudhSuri.in Website: [www.anirudhsuri.com](http://www.anirudhsuri.com/) Book and Podcast: [www.greattechgame.com](http://www.greattechgame.com/) #EconomicInequality, #TechDrivenEconomy, #ThomasPiketty, #CapitalBook, #JaipurLiteraryFestival, #COVIDImpact, #EconomicDivergence, #LaborVsCapital, #PoliticalEconomy, #InequalityTrends, #IncomeDisparity, #EconomicCycles, #DemocracyAndInequality, #UnionizedWorkforce, #WageBargaining, #Protectionism, #AutoIndustry, #JapaneseCompetitors, #CapitalInvestment, #WorkerCompensation
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Mar 22, 2024 • 5min

Why Capital Matters ft. Sebastian Mallaby

Join host Anirudh Suri and guest Sebastian Mallaby as they explore the historical evolution of capital and its profound impact on global finance. They discuss the pivotal role of the Industrial Revolution in shifting from small-scale operations to large companies, the influence of trade finance during the great trading era, and the emergence of powerful financial figures like JP Morgan. The conversation also highlights the significant contributions of contemporary financiers such as George Soros and Arthur Rock in shaping modern economics and technological innovation.

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