
"Age of Miracles"
A narrative show that explores the complex industries that will play an important role in creating an abundant future for humanity. Every season, host Packy McCormick – a venture investor and writer of the popular Not Boring newsletter – brings in an expert cohost to go deep into the possibilities and challenges of making “sci-fi” dreams our reality in our lifetimes. The first season starts at the root of all progress and prosperity: unlocking 10x more clean and reliable energy by splitting and fusing atoms themselves.Age of Miracles is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co
Latest episodes

Apr 4, 2022 • 56min
Hadrian: Ex Machina Ad Lunam
Hadrian is different than the companies we normally talk about in Not Boring. While it relies heavily on software, its main focus is in the world of atoms. It uses big machines to make precision parts for rockets and satellites. It blends automation and high-skilled labor.
It’s an incredible example of something we’re going to see a lot more of in the coming years (partially because Hadrian exists): startups tackling very hard, government-level problems in the physical world (and space). I’m very eager to see what happens as the worlds of bits and atoms continue to interact and co-evolve.
If Hadrian succeeds in its boldest missions, Americans will build hard things with speed once again, we’ll grow a new skilled labor force by making manufacturing cool, and freedom will reign among the stars. High stakes.
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Apr 1, 2022 • 43min
Not Boring Founders: Bryan Pellegrino, LayerZero
Bryan Pellegrino is the co-founder and CEO of LayerZero Labs. LayerZero is an omnichain interoperability protocol that enables the realization of cross-chain applications with a low-level communication primitive — simply put, LayerZero enables more secure and affordable cross-chain activity.
During the podcast, LayerZero announced it had raised a $135M round co-lead by Sequoia, a16z, and FTX. For someone who was likely receiving hundreds of congratulatory messages while recording, Bryan seemed wholly focused on the conversation at hand. Bryan has been in the crypto space since 2013, spent eight years as a professional poker player, and has started & sold multiple companies. When asked why he’s working on LayerZero, Bryan stated he likes working on hard problems.
SPONSOR
Season 2 of Not Boring Founders is sponsored by FTX US.
You may know FTX because of its innovations in crypto derivatives or its ultra-rich & altruistic founder, SBF -- but what you may not know is that the FTX App is available in the US for all crypto traders...and that it's the cheapest exchange out there, with no minimum, ACH, or withdrawal fees.
The company is moving fast and now offers crypto trading (Bitcoin, Eth, Sol, Doge, ect) and supports NFTs -- and is releasing new products seemingly every month.
Download the FTX App today, invest $10 and get a free coin from FTX in exchange.
Use this download link and enter code "notboring" when you sign up to redeem the offer.
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Mar 29, 2022 • 33min
Kaeya Majmundar, Swaypay (S2E5)
Kaeya Majumunday is the founder and CEO of Swaypay. Swaypay is a platform that allows customers to get cashback for posts on TikTok. Customers earn cashback for posting about their recent purchases and brands can get free content and distribution from authentic brand ambassadors.
Kaeya and Packy discuss Swaypay’s recent copycats and why she takes it as a strong signal of success for her company. Kaeya has been working on different iterations for Swaypay for over 10 years, after she launched her first company on Sharktank at the age of 19. Since then, she’s obsessed over the idea of turning sway into value for both customers and brands alike.
Sponsor
Season 2 of Not Boring Founders is sponsored by FTX US.
You may know FTX because of its innovations in crypto derivatives or its ultra-rich & altruistic founder, SBF -- but what you may not know is that the FTX App is available in the US for all crypto traders...and that it's the cheapest exchange out there, with no minimum, ACH, or withdrawal fees.
The company is moving fast and now offers crypto trading (Bitcoin, Eth, Sol, Doge, ect) and supports NFTs -- and is releasing new products seemingly every month.
Download the FTX App today, invest $10 and get a free coin from FTX in exchange.
Use this download link and enter code "notboring" when you sign up to redeem the offer.
Show Links
www.swaypayit.com
Kaeya Majumunday
Twitter thread from Kaeya on Swaypay
Work at Swaypay
“The next big thing will start out looking like a toy” by Chris Dixon
HBS article on Aflac
Not Boring Links
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Not Boring Founders on Spotify
Packy McCormick (@packym) on Twitter
Not Boring (@notboringco) on twitter
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Mar 28, 2022 • 24min
The Current Financial Thing
Elon Musk sparked The Current Thing Meme. There's another meme happening: The Current Financial Thing.
Everyone agrees that things are bad, and they agree in the same way. They even agree on how things are going to play out.
Groups of humans aren't typically right when they all agree on what the future will bring. Will they be this time?
You can read the full post at Not Boring.
Thanks to our presenting sponsor for all Q1 Audio Editions... Masterworks
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Mar 25, 2022 • 38min
Not Boring Founders: Alice Albrecht, re:collect
Alice Albrecht is the founder and CEO of re:collect. re:collect is focused on augmenting human memory and creativity. The product tracks what you're reading and ingests other content information (like notes, highlights, ect) and hands you "thought building-blocks" in the moment of creation. They are building an automatic bridge between you, your digital knowledge, and your ideas.
But re:collect is not your standard "productivity app," in fact, Alice breaks down why most productivity apps fail and why her product may be different. Packy and Alice discuss how re:collect is really only possible within the last few years, thanks to advancements in AI/ML, but why humans will always have the advantage of creativity over machines.
In starting re:collect, Alice brings with her over a decade of data & product management experience as well as a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience (Psychology) from Yale Univeristy. You can find Alice on Twitter @alicealbrecht and signup for re:collect at www.re-collect.ai
SPONSOR
Season 2 of Not Boring Founders is sponsored by FTX US.
You may know FTX because of its innovations in crypto derivatives or its ultra-rich & altruistic founder, SBF -- but what you may not know is that the FTX App is available in the US for all crypto traders...and that it's the cheapest exchange out there, with no minimum, ACH, or withdrawal fees.
The company is moving fast and now offers crypto trading (Bitcoin, Eth, Sol, Doge, ect) and supports NFTs -- and is releasing new products seemingly every month.
Download the FTX App today, invest $10 and get a free coin from FTX in exchange.
Use this download link and enter code "notboring" when you sign up to redeem the offer.
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Mar 22, 2022 • 48min
Not Boring Founders: Ben Rollert, Composer
Ben Rollert is the co-founder and CEO of Composer. Composed is an automated trading platform that allows users to build hedge-fund like strategies with a no-code visual editor. Ben and Packy first met while working together at Breather over 6 years ago, where Ben established himself as "the smartest person Packy has ever met."
Composer aims to bring modern software thinking to asset management -- users can create, remix, and share their investing strategies. Ben believes the lines between retail and institutional investors are going to continue to blur, as companies like Composer democratize access to sophisticated tools previously only available to hedge funds. Finally, Ben shares his thoughts on how Composer creators can monetize their trading strategies -- and why that differs from traditional copy trading.
Composer was the first investment Packy made out of the Not Boring Syndicate, and to date, it's made him look smart. Following Packy's investment, First Round came in to back Ben and the Composer team, and Composer's found product-market fit early.
SPONSOR
Season 2 of Not Boring Founders is sponsored by FTX US.
You may know FTX because of its innovations in crypto derivatives or its ultra-rich & altruistic founder, SBF -- but what you may not know is that the FTX App is available in the US for all crypto traders...and that it's the cheapest exchange out there, with no minimum, ACH, or withdrawal fees.
The company is moving fast and now offers crypto trading (Bitcoin, Eth, Sol, Doge, ect) and supports NFTs -- and is releasing new products seemingly every month.
Download the FTX App today, invest $10 and get a free coin from FTX in exchange.
Use this download link and enter code "notboring" when you sign up to redeem the offer.
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Mar 21, 2022 • 45min
Ramping Up
Today, Ramp announced that it raised $750 million -- $200 million in equity and $550 in debt -- at an $8.1 billion valuation from existing investors, led by Keith Rabois at Founders Fund. Not Boring Capital participated. It also hit $100 million in annualized revenue just two years after launching.
For this piece, Ramp's co-founders Eric Glyman and Karim Atiyeh let me peek behind the curtains to help understand what Ramp is building and how. I think that they have a Google-sized opportunity in front of them.
You can read the full piece at Not Boring.
Thanks to today's sponsor, Masterworks, the best place to invest in world-class art without needing a world-class bank account.
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Mar 18, 2022 • 30min
Not Boring Founders: Rushir Parikh, Popchew
Rushir Parikh is the co-founder and CEO of Popchew. Popchew is a platform that allows creators to build their own restaurant brands at a national scale. When Packy first met Rushir, he passed on investing -- in this conversation, Packy explains how he (thankfully) was able to invest later on and Rushir lays out the massive vision that Packy missed the first time around.
Popchew has three main stakeholders: creators, consumers, and operators. Rushir explains how Popchew gives creators a new way to connect with their audiences, consumers a more fun way of eating, and operators additional volume.
60% of Americans report getting food delivered at least once a week. Rushir believes Popchew can make that experience more fun and profitable.
SPONSOR:
Season 2 of Not Boring Founders is sponsored by FTX US.
You may know FTX because of its innovations in crypto derivatives or its ultra-rich & altruistic founder, SBF -- but what you may not know is that the FTX App is available in the US for all crypto traders...and that it's the cheapest exchange out there, with no minimum, ACH, or withdrawal fees.
The company is moving fast and now offers crypto trading (Bitcoin, Eth, Sol, Doge, ect) and supports NFTs -- and is releasing new products seemingly every month.
Download the FTX App today, invest $10 and get a free coin from FTX in exchange.
Use this download link and enter code "notboring" when you sign up to redeem the offer.
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Mar 15, 2022 • 35min
Not Boring Founders: Vance Roush, Overflow
Vance Roush is the founder of Overflow. Overflow builds infrastructure that makes generosity frictionless across every major asset class. The inspiration for Overflow came from Vance's other calling -- he's the founder of Vive Church, an Bay Area based church that now has over 4,000 members across 10 locations.
As Treasure of Vive, Vance realized that the church's tech-focused congregation had no easy way to donate non-cash assets--like stock--to the church. He also knew that non-cash donations were the most advantageous from a tax perspective. So he built Overflow. Overflow makes it easy to donate non-cash assets to nonprofits and churches -- unlocking generosity from contributors and opening up new sources of funding for organizations that need it most.
In this wide ranging conversation, Packy and Vance cover everything from the nature of eternity to the nitty gritty of 501(c)((3) tax codes. They also discuss Overflow's opportunity to unlock billions of dollars of generosity, the company's GTM strategy, and why giving can and should be as cool as angel investing.
If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing, rating, and sharing with your most Not Boring friends!
SPONSOR:
Season 2 of Not Boring Founders is sponsored by FTX.
You may know FTX because of its innovations in crypto derivatives or its ultra-rich & altruistic founder, SBF -- but what you may not know is that the FTX App is available in the US for all crypto traders...and that it's the cheapest exchange out there, with no minimum, ACH, or withdrawal fees.
The company is moving fast and now offers crypto trading (Bitcoin, ETH, SOL, DOGE, etc) and supports NFTs -- and is releasing new products seemingly every month.
Download the FTX App today, invest $10 and get a free coin from FTX in exchange.
Use this download link and enter code "notboring" when you sign up to redeem the offer.
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Mar 14, 2022 • 53min
Fount and the Body's Magical Future
Fount is running the Elon Musk Company Formula on health.
The Starting Point is that healthcare is broken – we spend too much money on managing diseases versus preventing or curing them, and we rarely optimize for performance. We’re wasting human and financial capital.
Today, Fount is in the “Sustainable Business Model” phase. Just like rich people have always been happy to spend on nice cars, they’ve also always been happy to spend on things that make them look, feel, and perform better. At $5,000 per month to start, Fount generates strong margins on real, and rapidly growing, revenue.
Fount 1.0 funds the Company Innovation, directly and with VC dollars. Fount’s innovation is that it will be the first organization – company, government, or university – to figure out how to collect the experimental data needed to build predictive models. The company’s best estimate is that that will take 5,000 people. You can be one of them.
That data will help Fount build predictive models of the brain and body that deliver real, measurable results to large numbers of people via software. If it pulls it off, the models will be the Match That Ignites an Industry.
It will take a revolution in the way the industry approaches health and a wave of companies building powerful solutions on top of good data and models to get to that future. Many companies will build on top of Fount’s platform, others will compete.
If Fount is able to successfully ignite the industry, it could mean achieving the Goal of putting a big chunk of the $4 trillion we’d normally spend on healthcare annually in the US alone to more productive uses, helping people reduce stress and tension and increase self-understanding, and giving people the tools to maximize their potential (while still enjoying life to the fullest).
The Result of the Goal, if everything goes just right, will be to optimize people so that we can build an amazing future together.
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To try Fount for yourself, you can skip the waitlist by signing up with the Not Boring link or apply for the Fount Not Boring Scholarship for a free year.
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Thanks to our presenting sponsor of the audio verion of Not Boring: Masterworks.
Thanks to Composer for sponsoring the Not Boring newsletter: Invest with Composer.
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