
Another Kind of Mind: A Different Kind of Beatles Podcast
Welcome to Another Kind of Mind: A Different Kind of Beatles Podcast. We’re a collective of artists, musicians, and professionals who challenge established narratives about the band with irreverent commentary, educated criticism, and original, thought-provoking analysis.
Latest episodes

Dec 25, 2021 • 1h 11min
BONUS EP 3: Marriage Mythology
Sam Whiles, host of the Paul or Nothing podcast, joins Phoebe to examine the mythologies surrounding the marriages of McCartney and Lennon. They delve into cinematic portrayals, critiquing how films like 'The Linda McCartney Story' and 'John and Yoko: a Love Story' shape public perception. The conversation touches on gender dynamics, idealized love, and the contrasting narratives of iconic couples. They also discuss the overlooked contributions of female artists and the authenticity behind media representations of these legendary relationships.

Dec 25, 2021 • 1h 17min
BONUS EP 2: John & Yoko, a Love Story
Join Phoebe and Sam Whiles, host of Paul or Nothing podcast, as they discuss the TV movie John and Yoko: A Love Story (1985).
Paul or Nothing:
https://mccartneypod.podbean.com

Dec 25, 2021 • 1h 32min
BONUS EP 1: The Linda McCartney Story
Join Phoebe and Sam Whiles, host of Paul or Nothing podcast, as they discuss the TV movie The Linda McCartney Story (2000).
Paul or Nothing:
https://mccartneypod.podbean.com

Nov 22, 2021 • 1h 14min
Get Back Pregame Show!
Peter Jackson's long-awaited documentary series Get Back launches on Disney Plus in just 3 days (November 25, 2021)! Join Phoebe, Daphne, and Thalia for a deeply analytical, level-headed, and definitely not hysterical countdown to this groundbreaking event in Beatledom! They discuss the Get Back book, teasers, remixes, and other advance media. Also discussed are such hard-hitting questions as “What are George’s opinions on cat food?” and “WTF is it about McBeardy, anyway?”
CW: Even more swearing than usual; gratuitous d*ck jokes.

Nov 19, 2021 • 3h 11min
Pizza and Fairytales: Ep 5 Make It Right
Dive into the emotional depths of Paul McCartney's journey in the '70s, reflecting on his bond with John Lennon. Discover the nuanced interpretations of their powerful songwriting, highlighting themes of reconciliation and personal struggle. Explore the complex dynamics of Beatles reunion talks, with McCartney likening it to 'reheating a souffle.' The discussion reveals how childhood traumas influenced their artistry and showcases the profound connection between their lives and music. A journey of love, communication, and the wounds of collaboration awaits!

Oct 29, 2021 • 2h 41min
Pizza and Fairytales: Ep 4 Then We Will Know
Dive into the emotional complexities of Paul and John's relationship, marked by longing and hesitation. Explore the terms 'pizza and fairytales' that symbolize their rivalry and struggles. Discover how personal crises and societal norms affected their bond, revealing layers of jealousy and miscommunication. Reflect on their friendship's depth, shaped by shared experiences and music, even amidst misunderstandings and heartbreak. Uncover the transformative journeys that led to candid confessions and deeper insights into their unique connection.

Oct 19, 2021 • 2h 17min
Pizza and Fairytales: Ep 3 Love is Wanting
John Lennon and Paul McCartney, iconic members of The Beatles, explore their complex relationship post-split. They delve into John's inner turmoil stemming from the breakup and his struggles with jealousy and insecurity, exacerbated by Yoko Ono's influence. The discussion highlights the controversial effects of Primal Scream Therapy on John’s psyche and their friendship. They also confront outdated views on sexuality, examine the emotional complexities of love, and reflect on their intertwined histories, revealing the haunting shadows of fame and personal strife.

Oct 12, 2021 • 2h 16min
Pizza and Fairytales: Ep 2 Heart Like a Wheel
Join Paul McCartney, the legendary former Beatle, as he reminisces about his complex bond with John Lennon, and the unique role of Yoko Ono in their dynamics. They dive into the chaos of a wild jam session in LA and discuss the tensions surrounding the Beatles' breakup. Paul reflects on a pivotal rendezvous in New Orleans that hinted at a possible reunion with John, and they explore the emotional turbulence of their intertwining relationships. Expect insights into friendship, love, and the surreal world of rock 'n' roll!

Oct 5, 2021 • 1h 45min
Pizza and Fairytales: Ep 1 More Than Yesterday
Dive into the evolving dynamics of John Lennon and Paul McCartney's relationship during the early '70s. Discover the intricacies of their emotional bond, filled with rivalry and reconciliation, while exploring notable moments like chaotic confrontations and public scrutiny. The podcast also dissects how their songs reflect their intertwined lives, shedding light on the themes of vulnerability and masculinity in pop culture. Join in as they unravel the love, turmoil, and complexities of John and Yoko's relationship.

Jul 28, 2021 • 2h 15min
Context vs. Excuses: Addressing difficult topics in Beatledom
In this episode, we discuss John and Brian’s trip to Barcelona and the violent incident at Paul's 21st Birthday. We use this as a springboard for broader topics, including how John tends to be unfairly singled out as the only Beatle with a problematic history, the failure to look critically at Brian Epstein's behavior as it pertains to the band, how homophobia curtails discussion of the fallout from the Barcelona trip, and the absence of McCartney’s perspective in the reporting of this incident.
Phoebe and Thalia explore these issues, followed by a panel discussion with newest AKOM host, Iris.
TW: domestic abuse, substance abuse, sexual assault, homophobia, and violence
SOURCES
"Fab: An Intimate Life of Paul McCartney" Howard Sounes (2010)
“John Paul George Ringo and Me” Tony Barrow (2006)
"Meet the Beatles with Barry Miles" for Please Kill Me (2021) https://pleasekillme.com/beatles-barry-miles/
"John Lennon: the Life" Philip Norman (2008)
"Paul McCartney: The Life" Philip Norman (2016)
"John Lennon: In My Life" Pete Shotton (1983)
Steve Gaines, post to FB group: "Beatles in Print Together and Solo" (2020)
“Loving John” May Pang (1983)
"Meet the Beatles: a Cultural History of the Band that Shook Youth, Gender and the World" Steven D. Stark (2005)
"Love Me Do! The Beatles' Progress" Michael Braun (1964)
"Behind that Locked Door" Graeme Thomson (2013)
"The Search for John Lennon" Lesley Ann Jones (2020)
PLAYLIST:
Three Cool Cats THE BEATLES
Please Please Me THE BEATLES
Keep Your Hands Off My Baby THE BEATLES
Bad to Me THE BEATLES
Baby it’s You THE BEATLES
I’m Gonna Sit Right Down and Cry Over You THE BEATLES
Hello Little Girl THE FOURMOST
Everybody’s Trying to Be My Baby THE BEATLES
All My Loving THE BEATLES
Too Much Monkey Business THE BEATLES
Soldier of Love THE BEATLES
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