
Counter Apologetics
with Emerson Green
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Apr 19, 2023 • 1h 47min
Debate: Is Animal Suffering Evidence That God Does Not Exist? w/ Perspective Philosophy
Perspective Philosophy and I recently had a friendly debate about the problem of evil, metaethics, the contingency argument, and how he maintains his worldview as a catholic and vegan.
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Apr 12, 2023 • 1h 44min
Unknown Arguments For & Against God
Two Catholics (Dry Apologist & John Buck) and two atheists (Emerson Green & Chris Rhodes) talk about lesser-known arguments for theism and against theism. Chris joins us a little later, but he makes it in time to rack up several casualties on the battlefield of ideas. Originally hosted on Dry Apologist’s channel.
00:00 Introduction
04:00 Evidential Complementarity
08:20 Common Consent Argument
27:00 Argument from Desire
35:35 Argument from Unjust Distribution of Propensities to Sin
1:12:30 Meager Moral Fruits Argument
Animal Suffering is Evidence Against Theism (Patron-only bonus episode)
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Feb 28, 2023 • 0sec
CA113 God’s Personality Change?
Is there any moral clash between the depiction of Yahweh and Jesus Christ?
Catholic Answers recently responded to a question I had originally asked when I was 19. On Twitter, I’d recounted an experience I had with Frank Turek when I was struggling to hold onto my faith:
“I remember asking Frank Turek in person during a Q&A how he reconciled the portrayals of God in the OT & NT, since it seemed like there was a personality change. He said, “There wasn’t one. Next question.” Anyway, I deconverted a week later.”
Joe Heschmeyer, writing for catholic.com, made a much more respectable and empathetic attempt to answer the question, which we’ll be taking a (critical) look at today.
God’s Personality Change? – Catholic Answers
Good God? – David Bentley Hart
Slavery in the Bible – Counter Apologetics
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For those who are curious, I asked Frank Turek the question in August 2014 in Manitou Springs, Colorado. I attended a two-week apologetics camp called Summit.
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Feb 28, 2023 • 4min
Mormonism is More Defensible Than You Think (w/ LDS Philosophy & Thoughtful Faith)
I was recently invited on Thoughtful Faith’s channel to share my thoughts about why LDS theology may have a few philosophical advantages over more mainstream versions of Christianity. For example, Mormons reject perfect being theism in favor of a limited god, which opens up new avenues in responding to arguments from evil that are not available to other Christians. Rather than forwarding creation ex nihilo, Mormons believe the universe is eternal. God is a part of nature rather than outside it; he organized our universe from pre-existing material. Latter-day Saints also reject the standard, logically incoherent view of the trinity. Strikingly, they reject the notion of eternal conscious torment for the vast majority of non-Christians. Universalism (or something like it) is the default view in the LDS Church.
This is not “Christianity plus implausible stuff” – this is Christianity minus implausible stuff. Unless, that is, you consider eternal conscious torment, creation ex nihilo, and the baffling notion that our world was created by a perfect being to be valuable aspects of Christianity that somehow increase its plausibility.
The original clip on Thoughtful Faith’s channel
Why would a loving God create a place of ETERNAL torment? (feat. Emerson Green)
Full conversation with LDS Philosophy and Thoughtful Faith
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Feb 20, 2023 • 0sec
CA112 What’s the Best Explanation of Psychophysical Harmony? w/ Philip Goff & Dustin Crummett
Philip Goff and Dustin Crummett debate psychophysical harmony, God, axiarchism, pan-agentialism, natural teleology, and explore some neglected terrain between theism and the hypothesis of indifference. What are our options in explaining the fine-tuning of consciousness?
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Feb 12, 2023 • 0sec
CA111 How to Be a Christian When You Don’t Believe It’s True w/ Randal Rauser
Dr. Randal Rauser discusses his book 'The Doubter's Creed' and delves into topics like doxastic voluntarism, prudential reasons to hope Christianity is true, the dispute between William James and W.K. Clifford, universalism, eternal conscious torment, religious disagreement, and whether non-Christians can be saved.

Jan 27, 2023 • 0sec
CA110 Addressing Popular Forms of Theism vs. the Best Forms
Should we address popular versions of theism? Or should we address the best, most defensible versions of theism?
To pursue the question of God’s existence, we must engage with the best forms of theism, not the worst. As Michael Huemer put it, “Who cares if you can refute the craziest version of a view? … The way to learn is to address the most interesting defensible views, not to spend our time discussing trivially false ideas.” Even if those trivially false ideas are widespread, wield lots of influence in the world, and are positively dangerous, they’re still trivially false. At worst, it’s deeply dishonest to refute the worst version of an idea, stop there, and act as if the entire idea has been refuted.
Depending on one’s goals, however, addressing the strongest forms of theism might seem like a waste of time. If you’re primarily concerned with atheist activism, helping others, and reducing the harm brought about by religion, why spend any time on things that have no significant influence in the world? The activists are generally more concerned with attacking the truth of influential beliefs that make the world worse. Philosophers are generally more concerned with addressing the best versions of each side, since that’s the best way of figuring out whether we should be theists, atheists, or agnostics. Though both are valuable and worthwhile projects, the main issue with the activist crowd is that they seem to think they’re the best at both, despite never engaging with the strongest versions of the view they reject.
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Jan 9, 2023 • 0sec
Discussion on Miracles
Friendly debate between three miracle skeptics and a theist.
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Dec 28, 2022 • 0sec
CA109 Meager Moral Fruits w/ Real Atheology
Ben Watkins of Real Atheology joins me to discuss the meager moral fruits argument, a few objections to the argument, and why we’re interested in it in the first place.
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/ Timestamps /
00:00 Housekeeping
1:41 To the Christians in my life
3:43 Introducing Ben from RA
6:06 Why I’m interested in the MMFA
9:49 The Meager Moral Fruits Argument
42:51 Open Hangout

Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 5min
CA108 Psychophysical Harmony, Physicalism, & God w/ Brian Cutter
Dr. Brian Cutter joins me to discuss his paper, ‘Psychophysical Harmony: A New Argument for Theism‘, coauthored with Dr. Dustin Crummett.
After talking about epiphenomenalism and why William James’ argument against it works against all views in philosophy of mind (with the lone exception of Type-A materialism), we explain why psychophysical harmony seems so improbable. We also discuss what I consider to be one of the weirder features of physicalism – the metaphysical impossibility of inverts, zombies, disharmony, and so on – and why one’s views about metaphysical modality won’t help you escape the argument from psychophysical harmony. In addition to touching on a few objections, we also talk about the underdetermination of the data, and why psychophysical harmony may be equally good evidence for some hypotheses of those who exist in The Nagel Zone.
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