
Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer
At the intersection of learning, media, and the future of work, join us each week as we sense and discover where the future of education is heading. Join host Mike Palmer, the Founder of Palmer Media, as he engages with thought leaders, pioneers, and entrepreneurs exploring the cutting edge of learning in these tumultuous times.
Latest episodes

Aug 20, 2024 • 31min
Transforming K12 Education with Teletherapy with Kate Eberle Walker
In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer welcomes back Kate Eberle Walker, CEO of Presence, to discuss the evolving landscape of special education and teletherapy in schools. Kate shares insights on how Presence is leveraging technology to address the growing demand for special education services amidst staffing shortages.Kate explores the impact of the pandemic on teletherapy adoption and the subsequent shifts in perception. She discusses Presence's innovative approach to connecting remote therapists with schools, highlighting the benefits of their teletherapy platform for both clinicians and students. The conversation delves into the potential of AI to streamline administrative tasks, allowing therapists to focus more on student engagement.The discussion also touches on broader trends in special education, including the increasing need for mental health support and the importance of early identification. Kate shares her vision for the future of the field, emphasizing the need for more accessible education pathways to grow the workforce.Three key takeaways:
Teletherapy and technology are playing a crucial role in addressing the shortage of special education professionals.
AI has the potential to significantly reduce administrative burdens on therapists, allowing them to serve more students effectively.
There's a growing need for mental health support in schools, with a focus on proactive identification and universal access.
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Aug 6, 2024 • 37min
Building a Platform for Custom Chatbots with Alden Do Rosario and Dr. Phil Hendrix
In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer welcomes Alden Do Rosario, founder of Custom GPT AI, and Dr. Phil Hendrix to discuss the emerging landscape of custom chatbots and AI in higher education. We explore the origins of Custom GPT AI and delve into a white paper co-authored by Dr. Hendrix on the adoption of AI in universities.The conversation covers various aspects of AI implementation in educational settings, from individual faculty use to university-wide applications. We discuss the importance of responsible AI, addressing concerns about hallucinations and misinformation. The guests share insights on how custom GPTs can enhance learning experiences, improve student services, and provide valuable data for educators.Key takeaways from the episode include:
The importance of curated, trusted data in building custom AI solutions for educational institutions.
The potential of AI to personalize learning experiences and adapt to individual student needs.
The need for universities to embrace AI technologies to prepare students for an AI-integrated workplace.
Alden concludes by emphasizing the importance of a "crawl, walk, run, fly" approach to AI adoption in higher education, encouraging institutions to start small and scale up as they gain experience and confidence in using these transformative technologies. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

Jul 30, 2024 • 32min
The Future of Learning, Workforce, and Infrastructure with Katy Knight
In this episode of Trending in Education, Mike Palmer welcomes Katy Knight, President and Executive Director of the Siegel Family Endowment. We dive into the intersection of technology, society, and education, exploring how these elements shape our future. Mike references Katy's recent appearance on The Cusp with Paul Fain in the open.Katy shares her journey from Google to philanthropy, discussing the Siegel Family Endowment's focus on learning, workforce, and infrastructure. We explore the current state of AI in education, debating its potential and limitations. Katy emphasizes the importance of addressing fundamental issues in education before fully embracing AI solutions.We also delve into the changing landscape of work and how technology is reshaping career paths. Katy highlights the need for better data interoperability in education systems and the importance of digital literacy in our tech-driven world.Key takeaways from this episode:
AI in education should be approached cautiously, focusing on solving real problems rather than being a cure-all solution.
The integration of physical and digital worlds through technologies like augmented reality could rebalance our relationship with technology.
We should strive to be in charge of technology, not let it control us, by becoming informed consumers and diligent creators.
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Jul 22, 2024 • 16min
Gen AI Enters the Peak of Inflated Expectations, The Uncanny Valley and More
In this episode of Trending in Education, Mike Palmer and his AI co-host Nancy explore whether generative AI in education has entered the peak of inflated expectations or even the trough of disillusionment on the Gartner Hype Cycle. We discuss the origins of the Hype Cycle and its relevance to current AI trends.Then we dive into recent developments, including the LAUSD's experience with an AI chatbot and Scarlett Johansson's battle with OpenAI over the rights to her voice. These events highlight growing concerns about data privacy, cybersecurity, and intellectual property in the AI space.We also examine the concept of the Uncanny Valley and its impact on AI adoption, emphasizing the need for human involvement to smooth over AI's shortcomings. The discussion touches on the challenges of data interoperability in education and the importance of solving real problems with seamless, user-friendly solutions.Key takeaways:
Generative AI may be entering the trough of disillusionment, with increasing focus on negative stories and backlash.
Data privacy, cybersecurity, and intellectual property concerns are becoming more prominent in AI implementation.
Human involvement remains crucial in AI integration, particularly in addressing the Uncanny Valley effect and ensuring effective emotional design.
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Jul 16, 2024 • 17min
Breaking Down Mary Meeker's AI & Higher Education Report
Dive into the fascinating insights from Mary Meeker’s report on AI's transformative impact on higher education. Discover how AI adoption is skyrocketing, with platforms like ChatGPT amassing 100 million users in record time. Explore the dominance of U.S. tech companies in the global market and the urgent challenges facing educational institutions. Unpack the emerging trends of Gen AI's hype, post-secondary disruption, and the need for durable skills to combat AI fatigue. Engaging discussions abound, inviting thoughts on the future of learning!

Jul 1, 2024 • 45min
Crossing the Post-Secondary Canyon with Colleen Keating-Crawford and Elizabeth Booze from Teach for America
Mike Palmer speaks with Colleen Keating-Crawford and Elisabeth Booze from Teach for America's Reinvention Lab about their study, "Crossing the Canyon: Ethnographic Findings About Life After High School."We explore youth perceptions of life after high school, discussing the pressure to attend four-year colleges and the growing skepticism about higher education. The conversation introduces a framework for understanding different types of support organizations can provide to youth, categorized as trail guides, transport helicopters, bridge builders, and mapmakers.Key takeaways:
Youth are critically examining institutions and seeking authenticity in their post-high school journeys.
There's a need for a more cohesive ecosystem of support for young people transitioning to adulthood.
Organizations can use the presented framework to assess and improve their support for youth in local contexts.
We encourage listeners to check out the full "Crossing the Canyon" report and subscribe to Trending in Education wherever you get your podcasts. Visit us at TrendinginEd.com for more.

Jun 24, 2024 • 37min
Why Mindset Matters and How Higher Ed Helps Develop it with Dan Porterfield
Dan Porterfield, President and CEO of the Aspen Institute and author of Mindset Matters, discusses the power of growth mindsets in higher education. He outlines five key mindsets: discovery, creation, collaboration, mentorship, and striving. The conversation highlights the transformative impact of faculty mentorship and supportive campus cultures, particularly for first-generation students. Porterfield shares inspiring stories of resilience and the importance of personal agency in education, reminding listeners that each individual can shape their own learning journey.

Jun 19, 2024 • 24min
Stepping Up Summer 2024
We kick off this special "Stepping Up" edition by welcoming back our virtual co-host Nancy to discuss the AI revolution happening in 2024. The episode explores what "stepping up" means in this new era of agentic intelligence and transformative learning technologies.Host Mike Palmer reflects on recent conversations with guests like Brian Rosenberg, Dwayne Matthews, and students from the Marcy Lab School - all highlighting the importance of doing hard things, embracing cognitive surplus, and developing durable "brain-to-brain" skills. We also bring in conversations with Bror Saxberg and Charles Fadel to really round out the perspectives.Nancy emphasizes that while AI tools are rapidly advancing, humans must step up by designing compelling experiences that leverage these technologies to drive motivation, vision and human will. We examine the transition of AI from a scientific phase to an engineering one, where the promise of personalization at scale is an emerging challenge. Mike concludes with a highlight from the Palm Court Podcast featuring Dr. Jonathan White about getting comfortable with the messiness of working on real problems.Three key takeaways:
Stepping up means identifying the winners and transformative use cases as agentic AI steps up (or falls short).
Developing "brain-to-brain" skills like empathy, collaboration and perspective-taking will be crucial for humans to thrive alongside AI.
We must get better at discerning problems and mapping the right AI/human tools to solve the messy, complex challenges ahead.
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Jun 13, 2024 • 34min
Teaching Writing in the Age of AI with Dr. Jennifer Wells
Dr. Jennifer Wells, the Director of Writing at New College of Florida, joins Mike Palmer to delve into the significance of writing skills in higher education and beyond. Jennifer shares her professional journey, highlighting the importance of fostering a culture of writing excellence and providing students with the necessary supports they need to learn and to put in meaningful effort into the writing process. You can learn more about Jennifer's writing school and the workshops she offers here.We explore the challenges faced by students transitioning from high school to college, emphasizing the need for a shift in mindset towards writing as a process of thinking and refining ideas rather than having to be perfect right away. Jennifer underscores the value of embracing revisions, project management, and time management skills like Pomodoro, which are transferable to various professional contexts.As AI writing tools continue to evolve, Jennifer provides insights into their potential impact on college admissions essays and academic writing. We discuss the importance of cultivating a human connection through writing and the role of educators in guiding students to develop their unique voices and perspectives.Key Takeaways:
Writing is a fundamental skill that transcends academic boundaries, fostering critical thinking, resilience, and effective communication in both professional and personal spheres.
Educators should prioritize teaching writing as a process, encompassing revision, project management, and time management, to equip students with transferable skills for lifelong learning and success.
While AI writing tools can be useful in certain contexts, such as brainstorming and drafting, they cannot replace the human element of writing, which involves personal expression, nuanced thought processes, and the ability to connect with readers.
Concluding the episode, we emphasize the need for ongoing collaboration between secondary and post-secondary educators, as well as employers, to bridge gaps and align curriculum with the skills and dispositions necessary for students to thrive in an ever-evolving world.Subscribe wherever you get your pods. Visit us at TrendinginEd.com for more.

Jun 10, 2024 • 48min
Bror Saxberg | Learner-Centered AI and the Redefinition of Human Skills
Bror Saxberg, Founder of LearningForge and an expert in learner-centered AI, joins the conversation with profound insights on the future of education. He discusses how AI can redefine human skills and create personalized learning experiences. Bror draws parallels between education and medicine, emphasizing the need to understand human learning before applying tech solutions. He challenges traditional career paths, advocating for a focus on transferable skills like empathy and collaboration. Get ready to rethink learning in the age of AI!