

The Humans of DevOps Podcast Series
DevOps Institute
Join host Eveline Oehrlich as she dives into the human aspects of DevOps.
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The human element in DevOps is often the differentiator that helps an organization achieve its goals and to be able to compete in a disruptive and digital landscape.
Want access to more great content like this? Gain the tools, resources and knowledge to help your organization adapt and respond to challenges by becoming a professional member of DevOps Institute. Engage in one of the fastest-growing DevOps communities today! Get started for free: https://www.devopsinstitute.com/membership/
DevOps Institute is a global learning community that empowers the people who power IT – helping you develop both the professional and personal expertise to make the most of DevOps in both your business and your career.
Focused exclusively on all things DevOps and digital transformation, we offer IT professionals – at all levels – deep practical knowledge, a welcoming network of industry leaders, respected certification programs, and insider events.
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Contact us: podcast@devopsinstitute.com
Voted Best 25 DevOps Podcasts by Feedspot (https://blog.feedspot.com/devops_podcasts/)
The human element in DevOps is often the differentiator that helps an organization achieve its goals and to be able to compete in a disruptive and digital landscape.
Want access to more great content like this? Gain the tools, resources and knowledge to help your organization adapt and respond to challenges by becoming a professional member of DevOps Institute. Engage in one of the fastest-growing DevOps communities today! Get started for free: https://www.devopsinstitute.com/membership/
DevOps Institute is a global learning community that empowers the people who power IT – helping you develop both the professional and personal expertise to make the most of DevOps in both your business and your career.
Focused exclusively on all things DevOps and digital transformation, we offer IT professionals – at all levels – deep practical knowledge, a welcoming network of industry leaders, respected certification programs, and insider events.
Would you like to be a guest on the podcast? Click here (https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/25a2fb0395b7409b8372c5417a1e22f6) to submit your interest.
Contact us: podcast@devopsinstitute.com
Episodes
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May 16, 2022 • 42min
S3 Ep76: Battling Burnout with Colleen Verriest, LCSW
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Colleen Verriest, LCSW owner of Whole Heart Healing, LLC! 🗣 They discuss:
- What is burnout
- What are the signs of burnout
- Causes of burnout
- How can business leaders combat employee burnout
- How to combat burnout
A study by Haystack Analytics found that 81% of developers reported experiencing burnout due to the pandemic. The study found that the top reasons for burnout included higher workload, inefficient processes, and unclear goals and targets.
Colleen Verriest is the Founder of Whole Heart Healing and has been nurturing change in individuals and organizations for nearly 20 years as a licensed clinical social worker and nonprofit leader.
Colleen assumed several progressive leadership positions in the nonprofit sector, starting as a clinical director, moving on to a vice president role, and finally to CEO.
Colleen’s leadership is grounded in the question, “what is possible?”. Her focus has always been supporting the growth of agencies and programs, but most importantly the growth of people – those on her teams and those served. She has found that leading with compassion, flexibility and fairness has brought success throughout her career. What matters most to Colleen is leading with the heart, leading with intention, and a good dose of vulnerability.
Colleen is filled up by just “being” with her family. She loves attending sporting events and traveling with her fiancé and son, taking a run, and connecting with her ever-loving circle of friends and family.
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Apr 26, 2022 • 35min
S3 Ep75: DevOps for Humans with Jayne Groll
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by DevOps Institute CEO and original podcast host Jayne Groll! 🗣 They discuss the state of human transformation, DevOps for humans, work culture and much more.
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Apr 11, 2022 • 36min
S3 Ep74: Communication Breakdown with Kainar Kamalov, Pipe
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Kainar Kamalov. They discuss:
What does it mean to be a good communicator?
Communication in remote teams
Tips for improving communication within teams
How do you help team members be adaptable? How do you consider vulnerability?
How can you think about accountability within teams in a flat organization?
How do you ensure that work remains rewarding at Pipe?
Running 🏃
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Kainar Kamalov is committed to helping humans make the most of technology and helping engineers do their best work. Originally from Osh, Kyrgyzstan and now residing in Bishkek, the MIT graduate and published expert on human-computer interactions was a founding team member at B12, where he created and led a distributed engineering team. He’s currently Director of Engineering at Pipe, a recurring revenue trading platform. At Pipe, his focus is on building new products as well as recruiting and leading a team of engineers distributed across the globe.
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Apr 5, 2022 • 44min
S3 Ep73: Sustainability, Accessibility and DevRel with Sara Faatz, Progress
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Sara Faatz. They discuss:
How Sara got into developer relations
Initiatives at Progress that focus on the human side of software development
How accessibility and sustainability plays into the human side of software development
Steps organizations can take to improve developer relations
What a sustainable and accessible future in the tech industry looks like
SHARKS
Thanks to our episode sponsor Kolide!
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Sara Faatz is the director of the developer relations team at Progress. She has spent the majority of her career in the developer space, building community, producing events, creating marketing programs and more. With more than 20 years experience leading corporate and product marketing and community building for organizations that target primarily the developer audience, Sara has a proven track record of conceptualizing and orchestrating campaigns that evolve the brand and positively impact the company’s image and revenue. Over the years, she has run marketing departments (both large and small), built community programs from the ground up, created partner programs, and acted as a brand ambassador and spokesperson for various organizations. When she’s not working, she likes diving with sharks, running, and watching hockey. You can find her on twitter and LinkedIn.
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Mar 28, 2022 • 39min
S3 Ep72: The Great Resignation - What DevOps Teams Need to Know with Mason McLead, Software.com
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Mason McLead. They discuss:
What organizations need to know to attract, retain and ensure the highest levels of productivity from their DevOps team
How is DevOps productivity measured? How productivity should NOT be measured?
What can various levels of productivity indicate for teams?
What challenges are software development teams facing in 2022?
The great resignation
Thanks to our episode sponsor Kolide!
Voted Best 25 DevOps Podcasts by Feedspot
Mason McLead is the CTO of Software.com, a DevOps metrics platform that helps teams measure and improve their organization’s DevOps performance. He leads the design and development of the company’s technology, platforms, and products, which collect data across the stack, analyze over 20 million daily events from its community of over 250,000 developers, and create valuable metrics and insights for engineering teams.
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Mar 21, 2022 • 38min
S3 Ep71: Continuous Learning with Dominic Church
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Dominic Church. They discuss:
The concept of continuous learning
How does continuous learning benefit individuals?
How can continuous learning benefit organizations?
How can managers/leaders foster a culture of learning/continuous improvement in their organizations?
Pro tips
Thanks to our episode sponsor Kolide!
Voted Best 25 DevOps Podcasts by Feedspot
Dominic Church is the Regional Vice President for K12 Sales in the Eastern US with Instructure. Prior to that role, he was the Regional Director of Sales for Florida and the Mid-Atlantic states. Before joining Instructure, Dominic served Broward County Public Schools (the 6th largest school district in the nation) as a teacher, instructional coach, school administrator, and finally as district supervisor over Instructional Materials and Digital Integrations. Outside of work, Dominic enjoys spending time with his family, playing and listening to music, experimentations in cooking, and geeking out over coffee.
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Mar 14, 2022 • 35min
S3 Ep70: Build a Healthy Team Culture for Developers with Dan Pupius
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Dan Pupius. They discuss:
Why is it important for organizations to build a healthy team culture for Developers?
What company-culture-related issues are developers facing especially in 2022?
How can team managers improve culture, productivity and employee satisfaction using a healthy mix of technology, compassion and forward-thinking?
How can organizations build a healthy team culture for Developers?
Thanks to our episode sponsor Kolide!
Voted Best 25 DevOps Podcasts by Feedspot
Dan Pupius is CEO and Co-founder of Range, a workplace collaboration software that builds high-performance culture. Formerly the head of engineering at Medium and a Staff Software Engineer at Google, he has an MA in Industrial Design from Sheffield University, and a BSc in Artificial Intelligence from The University of Manchester. In past lives he raced snowboards, jumped out of planes, and lived in the jungle.
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Mar 7, 2022 • 35min
S3 Ep69: The Curse of Knowledge with Eric Arellano and Nick Grisafi
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Eric Arellano and Nick Grisafi. They discuss the "curse of knowledge" and how to overcome it, the Pantsbuild project, pigs and more!
Topics discussed:
The curse of knowledge concept. Is it a good thing or bad?
Examples of the curse of knowledge
How does it impact the software development process?
How do you apply the Buddhist concept of a beginner’s mind to help overcome the curse of knowledge?
Thanks to our episode sponsor Kolide!
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Eric Arellano (they/them), software engineer, Toolchain Labs @EArellanoAZ
Eric Arellano is a software engineer focused on empowering developers to build at scale through the open source Pantsbuild project. Eric is also a volunteer crisis counselor for LGBTQ youth and an aspiring pig parent.
Nick Grisafi (he/him), software engineer, Rippling @ngrisafi
Nick Grisafi is a Software Engineer with a strong passion for DevOps and scaling processes with automation. On the side, you may find Nick exploring the great outdoors with his dog or tinkering with DIY projects.
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Feb 14, 2022 • 32min
S3 Ep68: DevSecOps and Safer Internet with Jamal Walsh
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jamal Walsh returns! Jamal was previously on episode 36. Jason Baum and Jamal discuss:
Should security be more of a consideration for all DevOps teams? How does this relate to DevSecOps?
Why is security becoming more of a priority for businesses?
How will this impact the role of security specialists?
What are the biggest security issues facing DevOps teams?
Jamal is a passionate Agile and DevOps practitioner with a keen interest in the human side of Agile and DevOps practices. Possessing effective cross-functional leadership skills and experience working with different business functions, engineering and operational teams to ensure systems are secure, scalable, and reliable.
Thanks to our episode sponsor Kolide!
Want access to more content like this? Gain the tools, resources and knowledge to help your organization adapt and respond to challenges by becoming a professional member of DevOps Institute. Engage in one of the fastest-growing DevOps communities today! Get started for free: https://www.devopsinstitute.com/membership/
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Feb 7, 2022 • 37min
S3 Ep67: Olympian Turned Technologist with Alfredo Deza, Microsoft
On this episode of the Humans of DevOps, Jason Baum is joined by Alfredo Deza, Author, olympian, and technologist helping others learn hard concepts. They discuss his Olympic experience, how he transitioned into IT, advice for the Humans of DevOps and more!
Alfredo Deza is a passionate software engineer, avid open source developer, author, photographer, and former Olympic athlete. He has given several lectures around the world about Open Source Software, personal development, and professional sports. He has rebuilt company infrastructure, designed shared storage, and replaced complex build systems, always in search of efficient and resilient environments. With a strong belief in testing and documentation, he continues to drive robust development practices wherever he is. Check out books by Alfredo Deza!
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