
Product Agility
Less Method. More Meaning.The world of Product Discovery and Creation is becoming increasingly challenging due to mistakes and missed opportunities that are prevalent in agile teams, large-scale Scrum and all other agile frameworks. History has shown that when organisations try and scale their product development to more than one cross-functional team, mistakes are made that cut short many chances of getting all possible benefits.The route of this for many is the need for more attention paid to the incredible advancements in Product Management driven by hordes of professional Product People who prove that making their customers happier is not a pipe dream but a hard and fast reality.This podcast exists to explore all topics related to Product and Agility and Coaching. How do you marry the agile principles with Product discovery?Is it really possible to have hundreds of cross-functional teams (or Product Teams) all working from an effectively prioritised single Product Backlog and a dedicated Product Owner?How can you embrace continuous improvement and empirical process control for your product, people and processes?Ever wondered how to overcome the problems people face when trying to scale the Product Owner role and how it relates to Product Management and Product Teams?Baffled by how to define a product in such a way that enables Feature Teams (aka Product Teams) and why doing wrong means you will only ever be stuck with technical teams? Scrum Teams are not compatible with modern product management techniques.Want to know what Product Focus means and how the right focus makes creating a shippable product less painful?Need to get your head around how to blend modern product management techniques with Sprint Planning and Sprint Reviews to achieve Product Increments that cover the entire product?This podcast's original focus was on Scaling Scrum vs Single-Team Scrum and how organisations can reap the benefits of Scrum when working on a larger product but still keeping a single product backlog. We found many Product People liked what we said, and then the penny dropped. This isn't a podcast about scaling Scrum or the limitations of single-team Scrum.This podcast is for Product People & agile advocates who coach or get their hands dirty with Product creation.We promise there is no Taboo topic that we will not explore on your behalf. We aim to transcend the conversations about a single team, Daily Scrums, Scrum Masters and the double-diamond and bring everyone together into responsible teams dedicated to working on the entire product to make their customers happier and their lives more fulfilling.Come and join us on our improvement towards perfection, and give us your feedback (we have a strong customer focus, too), and who knows, perhaps we will discover the magic wand that we can wave over all the broken agile and sudo-products to create a more resilient and adaptable future by bringing the worlds of Product, Agility and coaching together.This podcast has the conversations and insights you need.
Latest episodes

Oct 19, 2023 โข 12min
Julia Harrison: Leading Smart People - Lean Agile Brighton 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textJulia Harrison is a a digital product leader with a reputation for getting things moving. She doe's this by asking incisive questions, getting people talking and collaborating, focusing on outcomes, and giving teams and individuals as much freedom as possible to shine and do work they can be proud of.Julia Harrison on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliaharrison/We find ourselves at Lean Agile Brighton 2023 interviewing world class Agilists getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/Julia was talking about: Leading Smart PeopleMichael Dell tells us to "never be the smartest person in the room". But what if we're in a role where people look to us for the answers? How do we create positive change in a domain where the team are the experts? This talk is aimed at anyone who needs to create credibility in order to influence ways of working. I'll talk about ways you can help teams use their collective expertise to move towards the right outcome. This is true even if you don't know what that outcome is yet. Host Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 18, 2023 โข 13min
Anabela Cesรกrio & Patrรญcia Cadete: Building Product Ops: From Zero to Hero - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textAnabela Cesario is the VP of Product Operations @OutSystems | Product Ops Leader, Coach & Mentor Product management leader & coach that is passionate about helping teams building products customers love. Throughout her 20+ year career, Anabela Cesรกrio has successfully built products and teams from scratch for both startups and Fortune 500 companies.Currently, sheโs VP of Product Management at OutSystems. Reporting to the CEO, Anabela leads multiple teams, including Product Management, Product Experience, Product Ownership, Pricing, Developer Relations, and Product Ops.Loves a good talk about fresh starts, product management, ops, scaling teams, and yoga!Anabela on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anabelabcesario/Patricia CadetePatricia is a marketing professional with background in Journalism, Communication and creative brand development. Patricia created and leads the Product Management Academy @ OutSystems which is tasked with accelerating the product management capability within their B2B organisation. Why? Because if they do that then how can their product not get better and better!Patricia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/patriciacadete/We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/Building Product Ops: From Zero to HeroAre you interested in learning how to kickstart Product Operations within your organization for the first time? Or perhaps looking to break into Product Ops? Then this interactive, hands-on workshop is designed for you.Why Attend?During this workshop, participants willHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 18, 2023 โข 12min
Anabela Cesรกrio: My Product (Ops) Principle - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textAnabela Cesario is the VP of Product Operations @OutSystems | Product Ops Leader, Coach & Mentor Product management leader & coach that is passionate about helping teams building products customers love. Throughout her 20+ year career, Anabela Cesรกrio has successfully built products and teams from scratch for both startups and Fortune 500 companies.Currently, sheโs VP of Product Management at OutSystems. Reporting to the CEO, Anabela leads multiple teams, including Product Management, Product Experience, Product Ownership, Pricing, Developer Relations, and Product Ops.Loves a good talk about fresh starts, product management, ops, scaling teams, and yoga!Anabela on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anabelabcesario/We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/What did Anabela talk about?My Product (Ops) PrincipleHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 18, 2023 โข 12min
Magali Pelissier: It's Not All About Launches: Why and How to Deprecate Features and Products - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textMagali Pelissier is a Senior Product Executive & Podcast Host (Product Perspectives, check it out on your podcast platform) with a record of improving the bottom line of 10+ products. Reputation for finding product-market fit, turning around underperforming products and growing adoption. A pioneer in bridging the gap between people, process and technology and implementing workflow automation, AI integration and risk mitigation. Confident in building and developing careers of global cross-functional teams and influencing at C-suite/Board levels. Former artistic swimming elite athlete and Channel swimmer who exemplifies teamwork, accountability, and DEI.Magali on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/magali-pelissier/We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/Magali Was Talking About It's Not All About Launches: Why and How to Deprecate Features and ProductsHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 17, 2023 โข 13min
Dominique Jost: Fueling Your Productivity: The Art of Self-Care for Product Leaders - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textWe find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"Dominique is the Head of Product at Doist, makers of Todoist and Twist, where he is building a world-class, remote and async-first product organization. He started his career writing code for web applications but quickly gravitated toward the art and science of shaping and shipping great products.This interest in all things product, and his appetite for sharing and learning new ways of working, inspired him to take on different leadership roles throughout his 20-year career in engineering and product.His ultimate goal is to create empowering environments where teams can create value for customers and the business โ all while having fun and staying sane.TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD www.ahaslides.comWhat did Dominique talk about? Fueling Your Productivity: The Art of Self-Care for Product LeadersHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 17, 2023 โข 16min
Melissa Perri (World-renowned expert): Escaping The Build Trap - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textHow much introduction does Melissa Perri need? A world-renowned expert in product management. Through companies such as Product Institute, Produx Labs, and CPO Accelerator, she pushs boundaries in product management education. As a consultant, she has advised Fortune 500s such as Capital One, Vanguard, Walmart/Samโs Club, and JP Morgan Chase. AND she is a board member and trusted advisor for SAAS scaleups and late-stage startups.Her superpower is making complex ideas accessible for different audiences, translating hard concepts into familiar language so that anyone can understand them. This makes me an invaluable partner to ambitious leaders with a vision for success.We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD www.ahaslides.comWhat did Melissa Talk about? Escaping the Build TrapLike most of us, when Melissa Perri started as a product manager she started with giant requirements documents, dutifully recording every little detail from stakeholders and turning them into shiny docs for the developers. Then she discovered Agile and churned out features even faster. But eventually, she realised that she had been building features for years and never been quite sure whether users actually liked them or used them.Melissa calls this the Build Trap, and a lot of product teams are stuck in it. Theyโre defining and shipping software with no measures of success, too busy managing the backlog, and focusing on getting features out the door. Too focused on building any thing rather than the right thing.Host Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 17, 2023 โข 13min
Chiedza Muguti: Equitable Product Teams Must be our North Star - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textChiedza Muguti is a Assiduous Product Leader driving delivery from the product roadmap to end users. Experienced financial products and services product professional with proven technical and commercial expertise across the complete Product Development Lifecycle. Excellent communicator, able to influence and operate at all levels of the business. A committed and motivated servant leader of high performing teams that deliver successful outcomes, based on collaborative ways of working and solution driven thinking.Chiedza on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chiedzamuguti/We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/What did Chiedza talk about?Equitable Product Teams Must be our North StarHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 16, 2023 โข 13min
Nesrine Changuel PhD (Google) : How to Delight Your Users - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textNesrine (Product Manager for Google Chrome) is an agile professional at heart, driven by a deep passion for building innovative products that effectively solve users' problems. With her self-management skills, she excels in taking ownership and driving projects forward. Nesrin's exceptional team-building and relationship-building abilities contribute to a collaborative and supportive work environment. As a strong communicator, she thrives on fostering open communication and enjoys collaborating with others to achieve shared goals.Nesrine on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nesrinechanguel/We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/What did Nesrine talk about?Google, How to Delight Your UsersHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 16, 2023 โข 15min
Julia Steier: Using Visual Facilitation to Become a Better Product Leader - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textJulia isn't your usual Product Manager โshe's "the Visual PM." With a deep-rooted passion for both technology and drawing, Julia effortlessly combines creativity and innovation to guide product development from a unique perspective.With experience as a Product Manager at different companies, including her current role at Google, Julia incorporates visual thinking and communication into her work whenever possible. Her drawings help teams to be clearer on the vision and product goals, and to collaborate and communicate more effectively.She enjoys sharing her expertise through workshops and practices real-time visualization for talks and conferences, a skill known as graphic recording or visual facilitation. She firmly believes that drawing is a valuable tool that can help you become a better Product Manager, and she's excited to teach you how to harness its potential.Julia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliasteier/We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD www.ahaslides.comWhat did Julia talk about?Using Visual Facilitation to Become a Better Product LeaderHost Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80

Oct 15, 2023 โข 13min
Renรฉ Bastijans & Andrej Balaz: Make your next product idea a success - Productized 23 Talk In Ten
Send us a textRene on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/renebastijans/ I am a growth-focussed Researcher helping businesses of all sizes become great at building, marketing and selling products that create value and excitement for customers and growth for the business. I specialise in Jobs to be Done theory, buyer's journey analysis and market research.Andrej on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrejbalaz/ I help organizations to create services that people want to use. As a full-circle service designer and researcher I work at the intersection of marketing research, service and UX design. Currently my focus lies on helping Miro's Growth teams to find and explore new growth opportunities under the thematic umbrella of effective collaboration and engagement.We find ourselves at the Productized Podcast 2023 interviewing world class Product thought leaders getting their "Talks In Ten"TalksInTen are the best to get the inside track and behind the scenes insights on the talks and workshops from the conferences we partner with, so you don't miss beat.And for you our TalkinTen listeners here is a super special discount to our favourite (and perhaps soon to be yours) engagement tool AhaSlides!50% off Essential Yearly Plan that is valid for 1 month (expiration date: 10 Nov, 2023) - Promo code: AHAXPROD https://ahaslides.com/Host Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media๐ฑ! Ben Maynard ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/ ๐ฆ https://x.com/BenWMaynard ๐ป https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast ๐ https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/ ๐ป https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ ๐๏ธ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJzVSuk5zfJ1vIDZq?si=4c691fb12f124a56 iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80
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