

Conversations With Close
Michael Close
In these podcasts, I interview talented magicians from around the world—performers, creators, and innovators who are shaping the future of magic. I aim to ask thought-provoking questions that lead to meaningful discussions, offering you unique insights you won't find elsewhere. If you enjoy the conversations, I’d love for you to visit our website and explore some of the products we offer. www.MichaelClose.com
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Jun 7, 2025 • 1h 38min
Let's Talk Latta - S6 E9
My guests this month on Conversations with Close are Jamy Ian Swiss and Peter Samelson. I’ve known Jamy for more than forty years; while I haven’t known Peter as long, he is a very close friend. Both are superb magicians. Our discussion about Geoff was wide ranging and often emotional. When you listen to it, I think you’ll gain a greater appreciation for Geoff and his magic.

Apr 26, 2025 • 60min
Ben Seidman Interview S6 E8
I’m a big Ben Seidman fan. He’s funny, he’s smart, and, because he has a profound interest in designing material that will entertain and deeply fool any audience, we have common ground when we discuss conjuring. In this edition of Conversations with Close, Ben and I discuss his background, his magic and comedy inspirations, and his approach to creating routines. We also dig into his new book, Principles of Deception.

Mar 25, 2025 • 38min
Christopher Carter Interview S6 E7
For more than thirty years, Christopher Carter has been one of the busiest performers on the college circuit and has been in demand as a corporate entertainer and keynote speaker. His effect Cold Fusion, published in the Linking Ring in 1990 was adapted by Doc Eason and became one of close-up magic’s most popular effects: Anniversary Waltz. Chris’s new book, In the Spotlight, will be published soon; it is a must-have for anyone interested in mentalism.Chris wrote a column for me when I was the editor of M-U-M, but we hadn’t spoken in a while, so we took this opportunity to catch up. Our conversation was wide ranging, I hope you enjoy it. Find out more about Chris in our March 2025 MichaelClose.com Newsletter.

Feb 26, 2025 • 1h 7min
Aurelio Paviato Interview S6 E6
Aurelio Paviato is my guest on this month’s Conversations with Close. Aurelio is a well-established, fulltime pro in Italy; he performs at corporate functions and has his own one-man show, Storie di un Artigiano di Illusioni. He is a past FISM champion in close-up, and has had a long association with such greats as Arturo Ascanio, Juan Tamariz, Roberto Giobbi, and others of the Escorial group.I found a kindred spirit in Aurelio because both of us have a magic aesthetic heavily influenced by Dai Vernon. We discussed his background, and took a deep dive into several of the routines in his book, Studies in Deception (see my review in the February 2025 MichaelClose.com Newsletter) During all of it, I felt as if I was talking to an old friend.

Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 5min
Stephen Minch Interview S6 E5
In this installment of Conversations with Close, my guest is the man who, as a writer, editor, and/or publisher, is responsible for many of the most important magic texts published in the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries. If you have read, studied, enjoyed, and benefitted from books like The Vernon Chronicles, The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley, Carneycopia, the Card College series (in English), The Books of Wonder, and Mnemonica (in English), you can thank Stephen Minch.I was well aware of Stephen’s prowess as a writer when we met for the first time in 1992 at an Ibidem convention held at the Old Stone Inn in Niagara-on-the-Lake in Ontario; we hit it off immediately. Although our paths don’t cross that often, I always enjoy the time we spend together. He is a fascinating individual.The reason for our interview is the soon-to-be-released book, Flamenco, featuring magic by the maestro, Juan Tamariz (see the review in the Jan 2025 Michael Close Newsletter). The book has been in the pipeline since 1995; Stephen gives us the backstory, plus fascinating reminiscences of Mickey Hades, Doug Henning, Martin Nash, Alex Elmsley, and Tommy Wonder.I think you’ll really enjoy listening to one of the true giants in the history of magic publishing.

Jan 1, 2025 • 1h 8min
Gary Plants Interview S6 E4
Gary Plants is an old friend; we met more than forty years ago at one of Joe Stevens’ early Desert Magic Seminar conventions. Gary is an extraordinary technician, a magic scholar, and an enthusiastic magic hobbyist. Occasionally, he lectures at magic conventions, and lately he has been doing more public performing. Gary is also a collector with a focus on magic photographs and private correspondence. And, as those of you who are friends with Gary on Facebook are aware, he is also an excellent photographer.
During the course of our conversation, Gary talked about his first magic convention, in West Virginia in 1977, and his first “big” convention, the SAM fiftieth anniversary convention in New York City in 1978.
I had a great time talking to Gary; I think you’ll enjoy our conversation. You can learn more about Gary and see photos from the convention Gary talked about in the December 2024 issue of the MichaelClose.com Newsletter.

Nov 18, 2024 • 1h 19min
Mick Ayres Interview S6 E3
Mick Ayres has had a fascinating and varied career with the Walt Disney Company, working as a magician, storyteller, and musician. Like many performers, his world was upended by the Covid pandemic. But Mick found a new stage at the thirteen Marriott Resorts scattered across Hilton Head Island, South Carolina.
For years, Mick shared his expertise in act construction, scriptwriting, and character development through his column, The High Road, in M-U-M. I found these articles so insightful and practical that I felt they deserved a broader audience. That’s why I’ve been sharing them in our newsletter, and I’m thrilled to announce that Mick will also be contributing fresh insights through his The Art of Conjuring column—I’m sure you’ll find them fun and engaging.
To mark the occasion, I sat down with Mick for a conversation about his journey. We discussed his background, mentors, music, scripting, time with Disney, and his secrets for presenting magic to everyday audiences. Mick is a fantastic storyteller, and I thoroughly enjoyed our chat. I’m sure you will, too.

Oct 4, 2024 • 41min
Allan Ackerman Interview S6 E2
For more than fifty years, Allan Ackerman has been a major creative force in the world of card magic. Starting with Magic Mafia Effects in 1970, Allan has produced a body of work that showcases his ability to create seamless, baffling routines for magicians of all skill levels.
Allan’s last big book of card magic, Las Vegas Kardma, was published way back in 1994. Fortunately for all of us who love good card magic, Vanishing, Inc. has brought us up to date with the two-volume set, All In. The books gather routines scattered throughout Allan’s various lecture notes and videos, as well as bringing us some new creations. See my review of his new books in the Sept 2024 MichaelClose.com newsletter.
When I lived in Las Vegas, I often watched Allan “hold court” during the Wednesday night Gary Darwin magic club meeting. Since moving to the Great White North, those opportunities are few and far between. So, I was happy to arrange a conversation with Allan to discuss his journey in magic, his fascination with tetradistic stacks, and his approach to creating card magic. I enjoyed our chat; I think you will, too.

Sep 7, 2024 • 1h 8min
Steve Reynolds Interview S6 E1
Steve Reynolds is a creative and prolific card magician. He lives in New Orleans, the city his mentor, Jon Racherbaumer, also calls home. Steve was greatly influenced by the magic of Ed Marlo; his manuscripts and videos reflect this passion. (His video series, The Marlo Roadmap, provides illuminating insights into the core concepts that underlie Marlo’s techniques.)
Over the years, our paths had crossed occasionally, but I did not know Steve well. This interview gave me a chance to get to know him better. I enjoyed our talk. I think you will, too.

Oct 26, 2023 • 48min
Piff the Magic Dragon S5 E4
Piff the Magic Dragon, known for his show in Las Vegas and television appearances, discusses his rise to fame, the challenges and opportunities of being a magician, the birth of his grumpy stage persona, the importance of a cute dog in magic performances, creating and showcasing magic, and future plans.