
Pushing the Pile: A CBS Sports NFL Podcast with Kyle Long & Mike Renner
Pushing the Pile moves the NFL conversation across the line, led by former All Pro offensive lineman Kyle Long and longtime football analyst Mike Renner, as they combine analytics and football passion for 4 episodes a week. It’s like hanging with your buddies and talking ball…If your buddies were 8-year NFL vets and analytics experts who helped develop player evaluation systems that every NFL team uses to this day. Here’s what to expect during the football season…Mondays: Full weekend recapsTuesdays: Power RankingsWednesdays: New, Storylines, Deep Dives & MailbagThursdays: Comprehensive weekend previewAnd a whole lot of listener engagement. Sometimes in football you need just a little more for that first down and on Pushing the Pile we’ll give you that extra effort!
Latest episodes

May 14, 2025 • 50min
2025 NFL Schedule Release Partial Reveal Reaction | Chiefs @ Cowboys on Thanksgiving
Mike Renner and Kyle Long break down the parts of the NFL schedule we know before the official release. CBS's big game, International Games and some Holiday Games and Prime Time games to discuss.
Intro (0:00)
Chiefs @ Cowboys Thanksgiving (2:20)
Try Hendrickson Holdout (11:25)
International Games (18:34)
Primetime + Holiday Games (31:26)
Schedule Superlatives (33:47)
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May 12, 2025 • 1h 8min
Offseason Grades! NFC East and West | Giants Come Up Big, Seahawks Make Questionable Moves
Mike Renner and Kyle Long discuss what's next for the Saints after Derek Carr's retirement. Then they take a look back at all that's transpired in the offseason and grade the results for the teams of the NFC East and West.
Intro (0:00)
Derek Carr Retires, Saints Adrift (:40)
Cowboys-Eagles To Open 2025 Season (7:58)
Giants (10:28)
Cowboys (18:06)
Commanders (23:58)
Eagles (30:02)
49ers (36:26)
Cardinals (46:54)
Seahawks (51:10)
Rams (57:19)
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May 8, 2025 • 53min
Offseason Grades! AFC North and South | Colts Ace it, Steelers Incomplete PTP
Mike Renner and Kyle Long take a look back at all that's transpired in the offseason and grade the results for the teams of the AFC North and South.
Intro (0:00)
Rams in Hawaii (3:00)
Lazard a Pickens Replacement? (6:52)
Browns (9:43)
Bengals (17:35)
Steelers (20:53)
Ravens (26:37)
Titans (31:08)
Jaguars (35:27)
Colts (39:48)
Texans (43:21)
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May 7, 2025 • 58min
George Pickens Traded to the Cowboys + Offseason Grades! NFC North and South
Mike Renner and Kyle Long react to the Steelers trading WR George Pickens to the Cowboys. Then they take a look back at all that's transpired in the offseason and grade the results for the teams of the NFC North and South.
Intro (0:00)
George Pickens Trade (3:41)
Bears (11:36)
Packers (19:56)
Vikings (22:56)
Lions (28:16)
Panthers (34:04)
Saints (37:28)
Falcons (41:27)
Buccaneers (47:30)
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May 2, 2025 • 1h 2min
With the First Pick - EARLY 2026 NFL Mock Draft | FULL 1st Round: Arch Manning In The Class, But NOT The First QB Taken
It’s never too early to look ahead to next year’s draft! Our guys are teaming up for an EARLY 2026 NFL Mock Draft!
Ryan Wilson and Former NFL GM Ran Carthon are joined by Chip Patterson and Tom Fornelli for a With The First Pick & Cover 3 Podcast crossover.
Will Arch Manning be for QB1 if he declares? And what will teams with multiple picks do in Round 1? We go through all 32 1st-round picks!
(00:00) Intro
(7:22) Will Arch Manning Declare?
(8:30) 1. New Orleans Saints
(10:43) 2. New York Giants
(11:59) 3. Cleveland Browns
(14:06) 4. New York Jets
(15:21) 5. Tennessee Titans
(18:14) 6. Las Vegas Raiders
(19:34) 7. Carolina Panthers
(21:04) 8. Cleveland Browns (via Jaguars)
(23:13) 9. Indianapolis Colts
(24:59) 10. Seattle Seahawks
(28:32) 11. New England Patriots
(29:57) 12. Los Angeles Rams (via Falcons)
(32:04) 13. Miami Dolphins
(32:47) 14. Dallas Cowboys
(34:23) 15. Arizona Cardinals
(35:47) 16. Pittsburgh Steelers
(37:42) 17. Chicago Bears
(38:36) 18. Denver Broncos
(39:58) 19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(42:37) 20. Houston Texans
(43:56) 21. Minnesota Vikings
(45:22) 22. Los Angeles Chargers
(46:16) 23. San Francisco 49ers
(47:38) 24. Green Bay Packers
(48:30) 25. Cincinnati Bengals
(49:22) 26. Washington Commanders
(49:54) 27. Los Angeles Rams
(51:04) 28. Detroit Lions
(52:37) 29. Kansas City Chiefs
(53:45) 30. Buffalo Bills
(55:02) 31. Baltimore Ravens
(55:39) 32. Philadelphia Eagles
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Produced by: Ryan Stryker
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Apr 30, 2025 • 52min
Post-Draft Power Rankings: Steelers Skid, Bears Jump and Seahawks Stumble
Mike Renner is by himself for this one, but that won't stop him from breaking down Pete Prisco's Post-Draft Power Rankings to see who's ranked too high, who's ranked to low and who's ranked just right.
Intro (0:00)
What the 2025 NFL Draft Will Be Remembered For (1:25)
QBs Aren't Like Other Positions in the Draft (8:43)
Draft Prank Calls (10:20)
Ranked Too High (14:16)
Ranked Too Low (21:05)
Ranked Just Right (27:26)
Draft Superlatives (32:19)
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Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 39min
With the First Pick - Ranking EVERY 2025 NFL Draft Class - Bengals at the bottom, who takes the top spot?
Today, we're stacking every draft class from worst to first. We start at the bottom, where a few front offices clearly missed the mark, and work our way up through some c onfusing hauls.
As we climb the list, things get a little more interesting — teams that didn’t crush it, but might’ve found a sleeper or two if things break their way.
Around the halfway mark, we start seeing real upside: smart swings, strong fits, and the kind of draft classes that could quietly set up a playoff push.
Then it’s into the top tier — draft classes loaded with difference-makers, blue-chip talents, and bold moves that could change the direction of entire franchises.
And finally, we’ll reveal the three best draft classes of the year — the ones that crushed it from top to bottom and could define the league for years to come.
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Produced by: Eric DeBerardinis
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Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 35min
2025 NFL Draft Class Best Picks and Head Scratchers for Every Team
Mike Renner is joined by Leger Douzable and Bryant McFadden to explain which picks had them pumping their fists and which picks had them scratching their heads for each team.
Intro (0:00)
First 5 Teams (6:22)
Teams 6-16 (32:45)
Teams 17-32 (53:04)
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Apr 27, 2025 • 1h 14min
2025 NFL Draft Recap: Winners/Losers, Best/Worst Grades + Day 3 Recap with Shedeur Sanders to Browns
Ryan Wilson and Mike Renner break down Day 3 of the NFL Draft and then recap their favorite and least favorite classes.
(1:00) Shedeur Sanders
(13:30) Best Day 3 picks
(25:00) Titans class
(29:00) Bills class
(34:30) Cardinals class
(37:30) Falcons class
(41:00) 49ers class
(45:00) Bengals class
(49:00) Vikings class
(52:30) Lions class
(54:00) Jets class
(57:00) Steelers class
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Produced by: Eric DeBerardinis
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Apr 26, 2025 • 1h 9min
2025 NFL Draft Day 2 Winners/Losers Recap, Shedeur Sanders' fall + Day 3 Best Players Available
Ryan Wilson and Ran Carthon break down Day 2 of the 2025 NFL Draft including the continued wait for Shedeur Sanders. The guys also discuss their biggest winners and losers before looking ahead to Day 3.
(1:30) Shedeur Sanders reaction
(17:30) Bears winners
(21:00) Patriots winners
(25:30) Texans winners
(31:00) Cowboys winners
(34:30) Seahawks winners
(39:30) Bengals losers
(46:30) Steelers losers
(49:00) Saints losers
(53:00) Best Players Available
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Produced by: Eric DeBerardinis
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