
Between Two Beers Podcast
Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.Acast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Oct 31, 2021 • 1h 38min
Tom Walsh: The best stories from out of the circle
In this episode we talk about getting mistaken for Joe Moody, unusual encounters with old fans, his rivalry with Jacko Gill, the drama, confusion and emotion in Tokyo, what life’s like on the road with other giant men, the humiliating forfeits he plans with his coach, why his Gold Coast Gold was tinged with disappointment and so much more. Show notes | Episode 62 | Tom Walsh |1.38 Time away from shot put, Walshot, and an “A List” athlete4.34 Putting drug testers to good use after an appearance on a Japanese game show7.45 An older fan base in Ashburton9.58 “Nice to meet you Joe Moody”12.06 The enigma of Jacko Gill21.01 The no-throws at Tokyo 202029.53 The emotion after the medal ceremony and pressure before Tokyo41.18 An Emma Twigg interlude43.29 Ryan Crouser and stories from the big boys of the shot put circuit53.23 Teenage Tom Walsh: cricket, rugby (and athletics)1.03.41 Is going full time with shot put financially sustainable?1.07.00 The athlete / coach relationship with Dale Stevenson1.09.26 Reflecting on the Commonwealth Games1.14.47 Winning the world championships with a 7cm tear in the groin1.21.46 The Halberg Awards and meeting the Black Caps1.29.12 How good is Tom at supporting other athletes?1.31.56 21 in 20 in Christchurch in the lead up to the Tokyo Olympics1.33.05 Looking ahead to 2022 and last words from Steven, Seamus and TomSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 24, 2021 • 1h 40min
DJ Forbes: Secrets from a life of sevens
Show notes | Episode 61 | DJ Forbes |1.52 Lockdown beards, Olympic lifting, Pacific Games, haka’s in the rain, and the never-ending fend-off meme5.01 DJ and Pacific contemporary dance6.54 Who was pre-rugby sevens DJ Forbes?12.07 Samoan influences growing up15.03 Leaving school for the ‘real world’20.07 Talking Titch: reflections on Sir Gordon Tietjens26.13 Feats of fitness: beep tests, yo-yo’s, and broncos34.13 Titch and DJ: Good cop, bad cop?41.50 “Death” training and sevens camps50.08 How room raiding made it all worthwhile1.02.49 An interlude with Steve’s stag do and when gags go wrong with Shaun Goldsbury1.06.13 The 2016 Rio Olympic Games1.12.04 The transition out of professional sport1.18.01 Identity, connection and faith1.25.21 Carlin Isles, Perry Baker and attending rugby sevens as a fan1.31.11 Food chat: The hunt for the “perfect” donut and dumplings in the Olympic village1.35.52 A pimped out scooter, huge traps, and last words from Steven, Seamus and DJSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 17, 2021 • 1h 19min
Ben Hurley: The world of Kiwi comedy
We talk about the most interesting experiences across seven years as Match Day host for the Black Caps, *that* one night he went out with Laura McGoldrick, Martin Guptill and Jesse Ryder in Nelson, making a living in the Wellington comedy scene alongside Flight of the Conchords and Taika Waititi, the best stories across a decade at 7days and what the future of comedy looks like in NZ. 1.34 Covid chat, similarities between Seamus and Ben: World Series Cricket and 90s rugby league trading cards, and a staple in the Holloway household from the late 90s through to present day6.56 Seven years as the Match Day Host for NZ Cricket10.53 White wines at the NRL Grand Final13.38 A night out in Nelson with Laura McGoldrick, Martin Guptill, and Jesse Ryder16.24 From small town Hawera to Victoria University: the making of Ben Hurley24.11 Tracing the comedy journey: dying for the first time, riffing, and honing material over time33.43 The Wellington comedy scene: Ben Hurley, some guys called Flight of the Conchords, and Taika Cohen!?39.01 The importance of Pulp Comedy41.36 Then and now: competition between New Zealand comedians and podcasts45.07 Going to the UK and a Rose Matefao interlude48.35 Back to New Zealand and the launch of 7 Days56.26 Crossing over into mainstream TV: The Project and the dream job on Seven Sharp1.01.20 Cricket chat: the Comedians XI, commentating the World Test Championship with the ACC1.07.34 Social media, TikTok comedy, and breaking through in 20211.09.35 Mad Monday: Hurley’s Heroes, Owen Delany Park, and OnlyFans1.16.00 Eddie Murphy stand up, cancel culture, Jason Pine and last words from Steven, Seamus and BenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 10, 2021 • 1h 41min
Sir John Kirwan: Mastering the mind
In this episode we talk about JK’s son Niko becoming an All White, the challenges of being an outspoken TV pundit with SKY TV in a rugby landscape where everyone knows everyone, why he left school at 15 and the lessons he learned from his dad, his experiences rooming with Jonah Lomu and how he met his wife when she didn’t speak a word of English. In the second half of this episode we follow JK’s mental health journey. A warning, there is chat of suicide and difficult themes, alongside some really powerful, important messagesShow notes | Episode 59 | Sir John Kirwan |***Disclaimer***This episode deals with issues of anxiety, depression, and suicide. If you or anyone you know is struggling with these sorts of issues, Lifeline Aotearoa’s helpline and textline provides 24/7, confidential support from qualified counsellors and trained volunteers. Text ‘Help’ to 4357 or call 0800 LIFELINE (0800 543 354).2.04 A big week for JK with his son Niko getting the call up to the All Whites5.53 “Why I Am” a book bought by Seamus for a friend11.10 JK and his kids: Francesca, Niko, Luca19.02 Critiquing former teammates, strong opinions, conflict and confrontation29.28 Lessons from a dad: The making of JK37.45 Are you willing to pay the price?47.01 Turning into the world’s best51.36 Old school v new school57.02 The mental health journey1.05.55 Speaking publicly about mental health1.11.22 Other New Zealand voices in mental health1.13.55 Normalising the mental health conversation1.20.30 Crying, anger, and alcohol1.28.18 Reflecting on the Cavaliers tour of 19861.32.31 Speaking Italian1.34.16 From mate to bro: JK on Jonah Lomu1.37.13 Rugby League and the Warriors1.39.27 Last words from Steven, Seamus and JKSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 3, 2021 • 1h 31min
Laura McGoldrick: What you don't see on camera
Laura is a broadcaster, presenter, radio host, MC and part time actress and one of the most popular faces on television in New Zealand. Show notes:1.46 The Guptill / McGoldrick wedding: including Jason Gunn as MC, a star-studded table, and the Matt Heath rendition of Deja Voodoo’s “Beers”8.30 Who am I? “I took her to my school leavers’ ball. She’s my best mate’s sister and it was a top notch night. But I think she danced with my dad more than me though L”11.07 Reflections on the Cricket World Cup Super Over from a broadcast and partner point-of-view and the aftermath on the pitch23.18 Back to 2015 and doubling down on Cricket World Cup disappointment25.36 Meeting Guppy for the first time on The Cricket Show28.55 Growing up in Christchurch with her dad running Jade Stadium and her mum the super-agent34.08 Not just athletes: Jason Gunn, Phillip Leishman and acting 38.16 The Stephen Colbert experience 44.02 Meeting Meghan Markle48.56 Cutting her teeth on The Cricket Show53.31 Life in front of the camera 56.40 Live events: the Dame Valerie Adams gold medal ceremony and covering the Olympic Games 1.01.14 An Emma Twigg interlude1.04.22 Radio: Laura’s time at Radio Hauraki and moving into The Hits1.10.14 The challenges of being a women in a male-dominated field1.16.10 The Pakistan tour and being a partner of a cricketer1.19.55 Laura’s process for MCing and hosting the Cricket World Cup opening ceremony1.24.17 The Harlem Globetrotters of cricket1.27.32 Where is the journey heading?1.29.00 Last words from Steven, Seamus and LauraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 19, 2021 • 1h 30min
Pita Taufatofua: After the opening ceremony
Pita is best known as the oiled up, shirtless Tongan flagbearer who achieved worldwide fame at the Rio Olympics in 2016, but that’s only scratching the surface of his story. Show notes | Episode 57 | Pita Taufatofua| 1.52 Seamus as one of millions who tagged Pita on Instagram back in 2016 and Steven learns about his exploits over the past 48 hours5.41 The 24 hours after the opening ceremony in Rio de Janeiro16.18 Would you do anything differently?17.59 On being a sex symbol and getting objectified in the media22.20 Growing up in Tonga and the influence of his family27.32 “20 years of work for 30 seconds of shine”31.03 The start of the Olympic dream in 199634.35 Turning down a million dollar Hollywood opportunity post-Olympics41.15 Giving back: using his platform as leverage to talk about social causes46.05 From taekwondo to cross country skiing54.10 Dealing with criticism57.07 The last race in Iceland to qualify for the Winter Olympics1.10.42 Sacrifice: $40,000 of credit card debt and losing people along the way1.15.37 Famous faces along the way: Snoop Dogg & Kevin Hart, Morgan Freeman, Prince Harry & Meghan Markle1.22.26 Trying to qualify for a third Olympics in sprint kayaking1.26.02 Pita on the Olympics and mental health1.29.48 Next steps? Paris 2024? Training facilities in the Pacific1.33.32 Last words from Steven, Seamus and PitaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 12, 2021 • 1h 44min
Eugene Bareman: More than a coach
In this episode we talk to Eugene Bareman, businessman, fighter and coach of two current UFC champions.Show notes:1.50 Between Three Beards?3.46 Training professional fighters in Level 4 lockdown9.27 The link to Eugene through his sister Sarai Bareman11.06 Back at Massey High School: rugby, study, and the turning point of his life21.45 Family fundamentals: Provide for your children, back yourself, learn from your mistakes25.15 Law school and falling in love with fighting31.07 Eugene Bareman: the fighter35.06 On mental toughness39.32 The ambition to get to 50 fights43.26 Has this journey gone better than imagined?46.13 Getting into the UFC51.00 Israel Adesanya1.00.05 Behind the scenes of a UFC fight night: locker room and between rounds1.12.13 Reacting to losses in combat sports1.18.53 City Kickboxing: Changing lives1.26.10 The weight of responsibility1.29.52 Hard work, pranks and banter1.34.23 The role of the trainer in combat sports1.39.37 Getting recognised overseas1.41.31 Last words from Steven, Seamus and EugeneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 5, 2021 • 1h 52min
Paddy Gower: The Conrad Smith of journalism
In this episode we find out why Paddy is best known for saying 'this is the fuckin news', what Steve experienced when he went to a Hamilton pub with Paddy after midnight, how All Black Conrad Smith helped him prepare for the leaders debate, the time he left his passport behind when travelling with John Key in Iraq, the breakdown that led to him quitting as Newshub Political Editor, the horror interview he’ll never forget and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 29, 2021 • 1h 45min
Jimmy Neesham: Back from the brink of retirement
In this episode we talk about how Jimmy went from the brink of retirement to almost delivering New Zealand the 2019 World Cup, what it’s like to get a spray from Brendon McCullum as a young player, how his social media following got so GIGANTIC – and the time he was mobbed on the streets of India, the heartbreak of missing out on NZ’s home World Cup and his future goals for red-ball cricket.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 12, 2021 • 1h 21min
Sarah Hirini: Farm-girl to flagbearer
In this episode we talked about Sarah's rugged Fielding farm-girl upbringing, why Honey Hireme-Smiler considers her the greatest leader she’s ever played with, the emotional rollercoaster of the last six months after tragically losing her mum, how the eccentric Ruby Tui won the world’s heart and all the best yarns from leading the Black Ferns sevens to gold in Tokyo.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.