
Between Two Beers Podcast
Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.Acast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Mar 27, 2022 • 2h 2min
Dion Nash: A tale of two careers
In this episode, we talk about how Dion met his wife, Former Silver Fern captain Bernice Mene, opening the bowling with Jeff Wilson in Otago, what really happened when Dion, Stephen Fleming and Matt Hart got suspended for smoking pot in South Africa, how he stumbled into a high-profile corporate career soon after retiring from cricket, and the lessons he's learned along the way. Show notes | Episode 75 | Dion Nash 1.42 Between two whiskies, and some grooming chat in the Triumph & Disaster headquarters 3.39 A re-visit of the White Line Fever podcast with David Higgins and Shane Cameron and some ND cricket BJ Watling age group reminiscing 7.01 The evolution of Dion Nash: from cricket to business 11.50 Growing up in Dargaville 18.07 The foundation of success: marriage to Bernice Mene 26.37 A Jeff Wilson interlude 32.41 From Auckland Grammar to Otago Uni to the Young Guns 42.39 Lords (56, 6/76 & 5/93) 47.04 Injury 53.24 South Africa 1995 1.09.27 Gilbert Enoka and Pilates 1.19.16 The end of his cricket career and the creation of the Cricket Players Association 1.30.15 Transitioning into a corporate career with 42below 1.41.50 Establishing Triumph & Disaster 1.53.34 Comparing the business career to the cricket career 1.56.14 Last words from Steven, Seamus and DionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 20, 2022 • 1h 25min
PJ Harding: Why I walked away from radio stardom
We talk to PJ about why she walked away from radio at the top of her game, what she's planning next, her relationship with former co-host Jase – and the realities of breakfast radio, and we document Seamus' rough run attempting to slide into PJ's Instagram DMs from years ago. Show notes | Episode 74 | Polly Harding 1.28 The journey from Melbourne to Masterton (or Mount Bruce) 6.40 PJ or Polly? And baby Campbell on the way 9.26 Polly lights up Seamus and his rough run attempting to slide into her Instagram DMs from years ago 18.55 Jase Hawkins and Producer Alex on PJ – including the time she shat on the bedroom floor 22.02 How much of yourself can you share on air? 28.31 Back to the start of the journey: becoming a station voice, starting on ZM, dealing with imposter syndrome, and finding her on-air personality 33.37 “An arranged marriage”: the origins of Jase and PJ 40.50 Australia comes calling 49.42 Authenticity and relatability: is any of it an act? 52.16 The realities of working breakfast radio and the impact on normal life 55.46 Leaving Jase and PJ and the decision to come home 1.05.51 Contrasting lifestyles: living off the grid v an Instagram account of over 100 thousand followers 1.10.34 Celebrities: charity boxing, sliding into DMs, intimidating interviews 1.16.56 Radio stunts, getting married on air, and First Dates NZ 1.20.33 Last words from Steven, Seamus and PJSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 13, 2022 • 1h 25min
Lance Cairns: The Story That Could Not Be Told
Last week we flew to Gisborne (Thanks to Air New Zealand's Grabaseat) to talk to Lance Cairns about his incredible life. In the first 30 minutes we'd heard stories about Don Bradman, Johnny Cash and the Queen! It was a conversation that wouldn't have been possible for nearly 50 years due to his hearing impairment, but thanks to his cochlear implant – we had an afternoon we won't ever forget Show notes | Episode 73 | Lance Cairns > Final 2.03 “Welcome to what?!” 3.25 Pearls of wisdom from Lance Cairns 6.31 50 years of hearing impairment 12.04 Cochlear implant: A life changing experience 17.48 Six sixes at the MCG 23.30 Jeremy Coney and the new guitar, Sir Ian Botham, Sir Elton John, and Johnny Cash 29.46 Growing up in Picton: the unlikely cricketer and a brush with death at the age of 9 36.48 Cricket chat: coaching, bowling workload, and playing senior cricket at a young age 42.56 Working and playing international cricket 44.23 Facing the fastest bowlers in the world 48.25 A unique batting style that masked an incredible bowling career 53.22 Glenn Turner and the end of a career 54.09 Back to school: cricket, wagging and getting the cane 58.45 The loss of two children – Hayden and Louise 1.07.00 Christopher Cairns: the young cricketer 1.14.04 The relationship with Christopher Cairns 1.18.37 Cairns, Hadlee, Wright, Boock: an impressive golf foursome 1.21.07 Last words from Steven, Seamus and LanceSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 6, 2022 • 1h 44min
Kieran Read: The Stuff You Don't See On TV
In this episode with Kieran Read we talk about Richie McCaw's engine, getting bounced by Shane Bond, the secret sauce of great leadership, what happened in that Ireland haka, and why he choked out Richie Mo'unga when he met him for the first time at Owen Franks' wedding.Show notes | Episode 72 | Kieran Read 2.02: Running a Hotmail operation in 2022, trail running, weight loss, and a regular day in Kieran Read's life post All Blacks career 7.32: Kieran Read: not what you'd expect 9.34: The Black Clash: “This is your greatest achievement on the sporting field” 15.18: A cricket prodigy with BJ Watling and Anton Devcich 21.19: Kieran Read v Richie Mo'unga at Owen Franks' wedding 28.16: Growing up in Counties Manukau: Joeli Vidiri, playing for the Steelers, Rosehill College and Wesley College 40.33: The foundations of leadership: connection, authenticity, accountability 47.30: All or Nothing: behind the scenes of the Amazon Prime documentary 51.57: Taking over the All Blacks captaincy 54.33: Kieran Read on Richie McCaw 1.00.40: Vulnerability and using your platform to push positive messages 1.07.21: Dealing with injuries and having the will to play through and recover 1.11.21: Another Richie McCaw interlude 1.14.35: Rehabilitation from head injury (Vestibular Rehabilitation Treatment) 1.19.23: The sensitivities of talking about head injury in the current climate 1.22.40: The 2019 World Cup in Japan 1.30.09: The haka: how or who makes the call between Ka Mate and Kapa o Ponga? 1.36.01 kieranread.co.nz 1.38.50: Matt Heath, the Alternative Commentary Collective 1.40.14: Last words from Steven, Seamus and KieranSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 27, 2022 • 1h 55min
Eric Murray: What 'high-performance' really looks like (re-release)
This episode originally aired on Nov 24, 2020. The first thing that struck us about meeting Eric for the first time was his approachability. He had a beer in hand, a huge smile and welcomed us into his home like old friends – excited to share his best stories. The second was his size. The guy is a giant and when you combine that raw power with an insane aerobic ticker, you can start to understand how he won 8 World Championships, 2 Olympic golds and 69 races undedeated in the Kiwi pair with Hamish Bond. But the ep was a blast – and for the new fans we've collected over the last 18 months – worthy of your time. It's packed with unbelievable stories from two decades at the very top of high-performance sport. We talk about fighting Manu Vatuvei in the 2012 Fight for Life, competing in a TV show to find NZ's toughest man, nights out in Switzerland – including the time he wrestled a swan into a pub, the infamous meeting when Dick Tonks blew his lid at the Kiwi Pair, and how having a son with autism changed him. Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, a huge thanks to those donating to the cause on Patreon... visit www.betweentwobeers.com to help support the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 20, 2022 • 1h 9min
Toby Burrows: The king of NZ music festivals
Toby is the king of music festivals in NZ. He's a shareholder and former director of Rythym and Vines, who has more recently tasted success organising Bay Dreams, Le Currents and Plane Sailing, while touring some of the world's biggest artists from Bryan Adams to Snoop Dogg. Basically, he's seen it all and done it all in the NZ music scene. In this episode we talk about the stressful early days of Rhythm and Vines and BW Campgrounds, how he helped to put Gisborne on the international music map, how he created an ‘Endless Summer' for 15 years, splitting his time between NZ and LA, the famous faces he met along the way, including Joe Rogan, Paris Hilton, Kelly Slater and Freddie Roach, why he's gone to Coachella 11 times, his success with Bay Dreams and Cardi B's outrageous request when he booked her to play in Nelson. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 13, 2022 • 1h 4min
Monty Betham: How to become an effective leader
In this episode we talk about Monty's life after sport, his success in the business world and transitioning to punditry, his relationship with his father and reflections on a difficult childhood, why the NRL voted him the scariest player in the early 2000s, why he took the Shane Cameron fight at Fight For Life when no rugby player wanted to fight him and why he walked away from rugby league. Show notes | Monty Betham 1.38: Winning the morning, losing touch, good comms, 26 years of marriage 5.18: Warriors and Team Talks on Instagram and the obligatory Emma Twigg mention, plus Steve's white gloves memory 7.02: The relationship with Monty Betham Snr: growing up around violence and abuse, life lessons, bullying, and redemption 17.30: A leader of men as the youngest ever Warriors captain 21.12: “Putting on the ugly head”: Monty on his role as the enforcer 29.37: Highs and lows at the Warriors 32.11: Walking away from rugby league and the transition to boxing 36.00: Fighting Shane Cameron at the Fight for Life 39.51: Rugby league v boxing 40.52: Looking back at the boxing career and eventually retiring from boxing 48.14: Continuous improvement, a comeback of sorts at The Fight for Life, and training Jimmy Spittle 55.37: Punditry, interviewing, and the art of asking good questions 1.01.18: Last words from Steven, Seamus and MontySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 6, 2022 • 1h 12min
Shane Cameron: The real story of The Mountain Warrior
In this episode we talk about Shane's upbringing in the tiny town of Tiniroto and why he left school at 13, his epic training camp with Mike Tyson in Arizona – and what it was like to fight the baddest man on the planet, we talk about THAT fight with David Tua, when and why it turned personal, the heartbreak, the aftermath and their relationship now, his unlikely appearance on Dancing with the Stars and how he cut 16 kgs in three months to fight Danny Green. Show notes | Episode 69 | Shane Cameron 1.49: Lamb in the slow cooker, Instagram content, being in the best shape of your life at 44, and where you were for The Fight of the Century 6.51: Growing up in Tiniroto: a pub and a school, shepherding, and leaving school at 13 11.12: A solitary life: “I dreamt about being a shepherd” 15.58: Heading off on an OE 18.37: Picking up boxing at the age of 20 22.40: Sparring with the ‘Baddest Man on the Planet': three weeks with Mike Tyson 28.33: Mike Tyson on Shane Cameron 32.04: Mike Tyson: A “gifted” man 33.53: Thoughts on Tyson coming out of retirement and the rise of YouTube fighters 36.07: Shane Cameron and David Tua: The early years 39.55: “It became personal”: The Fight of the Century 44.49: The aftermath of The Fight of the Century 47.38: Reconciliation: dinner with David Tua years later 51.15: Cutting weight for the Danny Green fight and redemption against Monte Barrett 55.33: Putting yourself in uncomfortable positions: Dancing with the Stars 58.52: Living on a rice and coconut diet on Celebrity Treasure Island 1.01.38: Shane Cameron Fitness, Counter Punch, Counter Punch Fitness App 1.05.06: Reflecting on the life of Shane Cameron 1.09.59: Last words from Steven, Seamus and ShaneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 30, 2022 • 1h 34min
Scott Styris: The all-rounder
In this episode we talk about Styris' ‘streetfighter' nickname and the most high-profile on-field confrontations across his career, why he's not a good fit for the Black Clash, how the Indian commentary scene really works, the best pranks and gags from his high-profile marriage with his wife Nicky, the realities of life as a travelling player and pundit and his side of the story from his tussle with Anton Devcich in a Wellington hotel. Show notes | Episode 68 | Scott Styris Show notes | Episode 68 | Scott Styris 1.39 Wrong emails, Fergburger, Botswana Butchery, Wally Lees, and the Gibbston Valley cricket match 4.41 Some niche Hamilton Boys' High School content: invented cricket stories from Chris Kuggeleijn, 1st XI cricket, 1st XI football, 1st XV rugby, 1st VII volleyball 12.29 The real world: growing up, pressure to study, getting a job and juggling a cricket career 20.04 A stickler for the rules? 22.02 Scott Styris v Anton Devcich: The Styris perspective 26.16 Jimmy Pamment: mucking up warm ups, the Champions League, and retirement 29.45 Scott Styris v Mitchell Johnson 37.36 The Black Clash 40.13 Targeting Graeme Smith and Faf du Plessis, and the kings of sledging Shane Warne and Tim Southee 48.20 Cricket's nice guys: The Black Caps of the modern era 50.22 The relationship with Nicky Styris: first night out, a hole-in-one, Wilson golf clubs, and Scott Stryis branded active wear 58.01 Starting out for the Black Caps: taking the wickets of Sachin Tendulkar and Brian Lara 1.02.21 The first ever T20 and the first ever T20 bowl off against the West Indies 1.07.11 The IPL and thoughts on the shorter form of the game 1.11.42 Looking back on a 20 year career in cricket: amateur to professional and pre-T20 to T20 1.15.39 Life on the road on the T20 circuit 1.18.21 The fallout with Mark Richardson and the world of the commentary box 1.22.55 Scott Styris the coach? 1.24.36 Commentating in the IPL and impressions of India 1.27.51 A future career as a “stop / go” man 1.30.00 Niche areas: fantasy baseball league and cricket in PNG 1.34.38 Last words from Steven, Seamus and ScottSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 23, 2022 • 1h 43min
David Higgins: How to create unicorns (re-release)
This episode originally aired on February 1, 2021. David Higgins has one of the most fascinating minds in New Zealand sport with a cunning intelligence and the balls to continually bet big on himself, and win. In his mid 20s with no boxing experience and little money, he engineered the Fight of the Century between David Tua and Shane Cameron which laid the path for his journey to the top of the boxing worlds as Joseph Parker’s manager. This pod is packed with cracking stories like how he feared for his life following a Hughie Fury press conference and how he manufactured a multi-million dollar pay day for Parker in a dream bout with Anthony Joshua. We also delve into his background growing up in poverty and his subsequent relationship with money, celebrity speaking events and creating Unicorns with Duco Events.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.