
Between Two Beers Podcast
Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. And it’s only the beginning.Acast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Apr 9, 2023 • 1h 22min
Example: 16 years at the top of global music
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Elliot Gleave. Elliot is best known as his stage name, Example, and is a musical artist, producer, writer and rapper, who has been leading the way in the music industry for the last 16 years. Example is a genuine worldwide superstar and has been the frontman of multiple generations, bridging the gaps between electronic, rap, and pop, with his chart-topping singles, sell-out tours, and multiple platinum records. But despite all that, he comes across as an ordinary bloke and gave us such a memorable episode. We talked about playing 1360 gigs across 62 countries, The power of Glastonbury, the time he got invited to play tennis at Buckingham Palace, how he deals with fame, why he moved to Australia, his approach to creating music in 2023, life hacks, parenting and much, much more. This one was a lot of fun and we’re incredibly grateful Elliott gave us so much of his time while in New Zealand. Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on Patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode. This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 2, 2023 • 1h 25min
David Galbraith: The ghost in the machine
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to David Galbraith. David is a world renowned mind coach, who specialises in performance psychology in sport and business. A former clinical psychologist for over 20 years DG is a mind coach to Lisa Carrington, Sarah Walker and Laura Langman, the performance psychologist for the Japanese Rugby team, the mind coach for the All Blacks sevens team and was with the Chiefs for 11 years when they won back to back Super Rugby titles. In this episode we talk about being the ghost in the machine, the difference between good and elite coaches, the accident his then two-year-old daughter had which changed his outlook on parenting and his career, why Wayne Smith heckled him when they first met, life lessons from working in Japan, and why expressing your true self leads to a happier life. David is super highly regarded in NZ sport circles. He talks the talk, and walks the walk... which is why he gets so much respect. He works with so many top athletes in NZ and around the world and has such a thoughtful, unique outlook on life. This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. Show notes | Episode 120 | David Galbraith 1:50: Hambassador chat 4:13: The ghost in the machine 11:30: 15 attempts to get into clinical psychology 21:58: Cake and icing: how you define success 31:42: How DG works with his clients 44:01: Working with elite coaches: Wayne Smith, Dave Rennie, Jamie Joseph 55:03: Back-to-back Super Rugby Championships with the Chiefs 1:04:00: Lessons from Japan 1:10:36: Transferring skills from sport to business 1:16:25: Reflection and living inside outSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 26, 2023 • 1h 25min
Laura McGoldrick: My life in the spotlight (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to October of 2021 when we sat down with Laura McGoldrick. Laura is a broadcaster, presenter, radio host, MC and part time actress and one of the most popular faces on television in New Zealand. She has been a host of the Cricket Show, Holden Golf World, NZ Herald Focus as well as most of Sky’s major sporting events, and held breakfast radio rolls at Hauraki and the Hits. She’s also married to Black Caps star Martin Guptill. In this episode we talk about how Laura navigated her post-match SKy TV commitments after watching her husband’s heartbreak following the Cricket World Cup final, Growing up with her mum – the super agent, working with Stephen Colbert, the differences between working on Hauraki with Matt and Jerry and the Hits with Toni and Sam and the hardest moments across her career at Sky TV. Laura is exceptional company. Funny, witty, full of energy and an engaging storyteller. This was a really memorable episode for us. It was recorded during lockdown, so the audio is a little patchy in places and we’ve edited out some of the painful isolation chat from the start of the ep. Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode. This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. Show notes: 1:50: Who am I? “I took her to my school leavers’ ball. She’s my best mate’s sister and it was a top notch night. But I think she danced with my dad more than me though L” 4:34: Reflections on the Cricket World Cup Super Over from a broadcast and partner point-of-view and the aftermath on the pitch 16:53: Back to 2015 and doubling down on Cricket World Cup disappointment 19:10: Meeting Guppy for the first time on The Cricket Show 22:30: Growing up in Christchurch with her dad running Jade Stadium and her mum the super-agent 28:45: Not just athletes: Jason Gunn, Phillip Leishman and acting 31:58: The Stephen Colbert experience 37:44: Meeting Meghan Markle 42:38: Cutting her teeth on The Cricket Show and 47:05: Life in front of the camera 50:29: Live events: the Dame Valerie Adams gold medal ceremony and covering the Olympic Games 55:04: An Emma Twigg interlude 58:12: Radio: Laura’s time at Radio Hauraki and moving into The Hits 1:04:04: The challenges of being a women in a male-dominated field 1:10:01: The Pakistan tour and being a partner of a cricketer 1:13:35: Laura’s process for MCing and hosting the Cricket World Cup opening ceremony 1:18:09: The Harlem Globetrotters of cricket 1:21:23: Where is the journey heading? 1:22:50: Last words from Steven, Seamus and LauraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 19, 2023 • 1h 54min
Awen Guttenbeil: Lessons from my island
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Awen Gutenbeil. You may know Awen as one of New Zealand’s greatest rugby league players, with 170 caps for the Warriors over a professional career that spanned 15 years. What you might not know, is that in the first five years of his career he spent more time under general anesthetic then he did on the field. In this episode we talk about the mental toll of 60 hours under GA and how he got his career back on track, the hustle, grind and drive to set up his thriving business career post footy, reflections on the Warriors’ most famous scraps, the best end of year trip stories, why he didn’t fancy a career as a broadcaster, meeting the queen, what he’s learned as a dad, golf, what the next chapter looks like and much much more. This ep was really special. Awen is such an eloquent speaker with a lifetime of important lessons to share. We asked him some ‘big picture’ questions at the end, and the impromptu, thoughtful, articulate answers blew us away. You'll love this one. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 12, 2023 • 1h 18min
Guyon Espiner: Mastering the art of the interview
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Guyon Espiner. Guyon is one of New Zealand’s most highly respected journalists and has worked in print, radio and television for more than 20 years, as a reporter, political editor and anchor. He has reported on trade from China, on war from Afghanistan, on politics from Washington, and on climate change from Antarctica. He currently works at Radio New Zealand as an investigative journalist and has just released his new book THE DRINKING GAME – which looks at how big business, the media and politicians shape the way we drink. In this episode we talk about Guyon’s friendship and rivalry with Duncan Garner, what life is really like in the parliamentary press gallery, why he crossed the floor from TVNZ to TV3, the art of interviewing politicians, his best Winston Peters drinking story – and their most memorable interview and his new book and why he turned away from the booze. This was a cracking ep. Guyon is sharp, worldly and insightful and his experiences and stories from two decades in New Zealand journalism would rival anyone in the country. You’ll love this one. Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode. Show notes | Episode 118 | Guyon Espiner 1:30: The Drinking Game and being “sober curious” 6:14: Cricket and Paddy Gower 10:13: Guyon Espiner v Duncan Garner 14:08: Life in the parliamentary press gallery 20:03: Is anything genuinely off the record? 22:16: Crossing the floor from TVNZ to TV3 24:15: Winston Peters 34:01: The art of interviewing politicians 41:25: Morning Report and Radio New Zealand 45:47: Stepping back into investigative journalism 53:15: The decision to stop drinking 1:00:20: Having the ugly conversation with your mates 1:06:30: The Te Reo journey 1:10:10: Running as a mental health pillarSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 5, 2023 • 1h 49min
Guy Williams: The wild world of Kiwi comedy
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Guy Williams. Guy is one of New Zealand’s best-known comedians who has worked on many of New Zealand’s biggest TV shows. He was a co-host on Jono and Ben, a radio DJ at The Edge, featured on shows like Come Dine With Me, The Extra Factor and Taskmaster and for the last four years has been working on his critically acclaimed show New Zealand Today. In this one we talk about bad names for podcasts, why he was the worst ever contestant on Taskmaster, what its really like to be the gag-man at serious sport press conferences, his complicated relationship with Sonny Bill Williams, interviewing the Mongrol Mob, Patrick and Roy, why New Zealand Today has been so popular and much, much more. Guy is a tornado of energy, noise and good chat. This was really fun, so many entertaining stories mixed with moments of real introspection. You’ll love this one. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 26, 2023 • 1h 29min
Lisa Carrington: Inside the mind of a champion
On this episode of Between two Beers we talk to Dame Lisa Carrington. Lisa is New Zealand’s most successful Olympian of all time with five Olympic gold medals in the sprint Kayak, one bronze and 12 World Championship titles. For over a decade, Lisa has been the best in the world at her sport and after listening to this conversation it will become clear why. We go deep inside the mind of a champion, and talk about her relationship with self-doubt and high performance, why she hasn’t missed training in 13 years, and how she deals with race-day pressure. We also hear about her passport slip-ups, gym playlists, superstitions, the power of journalling, and all the best and most entertaining stories from a life on the road. Seamus and I were mesmerized by this chat in places. It's so rare you get such an extended period of time to probe away at the inner workings of the very best in the world, and Lisa’s discipline, thought process, and ability to articulate how she succeeds was really, really cool. Show notes | Episode 116 | Dame Lisa Carrington 2:05: Halberg Awards, table seating, and wardrobe malfunctions 6:40: A loose circle: gym playlists, red sunglasses, claiming the master bedroom 12:38: Lisa and her passport 18:50: Consistency 20:52: The early years in Whakatane 29:13: “…she uses kayaking to be a better person…” 33:08: Lisa’s attitude to training 40:30: Inside the mind of a champion: Tokyo 2021 47:08: Dealing with self-doubt 52:23: Winning the gold medal to become New Zealand’s most decorated Olympian 55:31: Lisa on coaching and building on your foundations 1:01:42: The power of journaling 1:04:24: Covid chat 1:08:44: What’s next? 1:10:19: Being in the hurt locker 1:14:11: A night out after the gold medal in London 1:18:55: Fame (here and abroad) 1:22:22: Recognising accolades 1:26:06: Last words from Steve, Seamus and LisaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 19, 2023 • 1h 53min
Paddy Gower: This is the f***in news (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to September of 2021 when we sat down with Paddy Gower. Paddy is one of New Zealand’s most senior journalists with over 22 years in all forms of journalism. He’s been newshub’s political editor, an award-winning investigative journalist in print and broadcasting – has covered warzones and major world events, has hosted leaders debates and is a documentary maker raising issues of national signficance. But despite all this, by his own admission – he's most well known for saying ‘This is the fuckin news” and smoking weed on TV. In this episode we find out why that is, what I experienced when I went to a Hamilton pub with Paddy after midnight, how All Black Conrad Smith helped him prepare for the leaders debate, the time he left his passport behind when travelling with the prime minister in Iraq, the breakdown that led to him quitting as Newshub Political editor, the horror interview he’ll never forget and a whole lot more. Paddy is a deep thinker and was a joy to share company with. He’s authentic, vulnerable, honest and entertaining. This was one of our most memorable earlier episodes, and wanted to share with our new audience. It should be noted that this was also recorded a few months before Paddy turned away from booze. So keep that in mind when you hear a few references to alcohol.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 12, 2023 • 1h 33min
Marc Ellis: How to walk with Kings
On this episode of Between Two Beers, we talk to Marc Ellis. Marc has done enough in his life to have an episode dedicated to each chapter. He played rugby for Otago, North Harbour, Blues, Highlanders and All Blacks and League for the Warriors and Kiwis, founded Charlie’s juice company – which after 10 years he sold to Asahi for $129 million, and was one of New Zealand’s top television stars for over a decade. In this episode we talk about what it was like to walk away with $18 million after selling Charlie’s - and why he decided to keep working, the best stories from university in Dunedin and touring with the All Blacks, why he thinks he was poisoned before the 1995 Rugby World Cup final, the time he was nearly killed by a bowling machine, the glory days with Ridgey, his favourite moments from Sports Café, what he’s doing now and much much more. Marc was our dream guest – and he delivered. Seamus and I grew up watching his unpredictable brand of hijinx and gags on TV, and his infectiously positive and fun personality rubbed off on us both. But behind the laughs and wild stories is an incredibly driven, successful, thoughtful guy and we had so much fun working through his full story. You'll love this one. Show notes | Episode 115 | Marc Ellis Show notes | Episode 115 | Marc Ellis 2:14: A pinch yourself moment and a local speak easy 4:21: That time Marc nearly killed himself alone with a bowling machine 7:15: The Human Cannonball, the boat, and the Round Lake Taupo cycle 15:15: The last ten years of Marc Ellis 16:57: Macca at high school 19:43: The King of Otago University 22:49: Scarfie hijinks 25:01: Otago rugby and All Blacks tours 30:01: “Suzie” at the 1995 Rugby World Cup 33:38: Setting up Charlies 39:34: The decision to sell Charlies 46:12: The Warriors, Jonah, and JK 52:34: Sports Café 1:03:59: Matthew Ridge and Marc Ellis 1:11:21: Working on More FM after becoming a multi-millionaire 1:15:32: The Rangitoto stunt 1:19:13: Media Blanco and life now 1:21:35: Fame and anonymity 1:22:49: Advice from a father to a son 1:29:40: Last words from Steve, Seamus and MarcSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 5, 2023 • 1h 46min
Dave Wood: How to stay calm under pressure
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dave Wood. Dave is a human performance specialist who works with some of the world’s most elite athletes to make them better at their job. He is currently Israel Adesanya’s breathing and mindset coach, and in a recent interview Adesanya said Wood ‘opened his eyes’ to the power of breathwork. Wood is now one of the most in-demand integrated health specialists in Australasia and has worked with Blair Tuke, Ella Williams, Kai Kara France – and one of Germany’s top footballers - but the story of how he got to the top might be as remarkable as his quick rise. We talk about his debilitating hip injury, the failed attempts at rehab through traditional sources - and hitting rock bottom. Then The drive, desire and success of figuring a solution out on his own – and how he started teaching it to others - while working as an intensive care paramedic. Dave doesn’t normally do these types of interviews – and we feel grateful he gave us so much. We delved deep into his back story – and he was incredibly open about some of the most challenging moments in his life. He teaches stress mitigation, and being ‘calm under pressure’ and some of his ‘real world’ examples of what he’s been through – and travel stories - will blow you away. This was a cracker ep and it’s easy to see why Dave has risen to the top of his field. He’s relatable, he's real, he’s whip-smart and has lived one hell of a life. You’ll love this one. Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, and check you podcast app for show notes. You can watch the video of this one on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. Show notes | Episode 114 | Dave Wood 1:38: The stress (or not) of the Auckland floods 3:43: The sausage story 8:14: The makings of Dave Wood 13:11: “I don’t want to go on a holiday, I want to challenge myself” 15:17: Left at sea in Bali 19:04: A culmination of experiences 21:11: Living in a lighthouse on the Andaman Islands 31:09: Seven days with a camel 36:23: Travel hardships in Venezuela 44:21: Reinventing himself as an Intensive Care Paramedic 49:57: Dealing with chronic pain: The creation of integrated training 57:12: Overcoming obstacles 59:33: From start up to working with Israel Adesanya 1:05:14: From athletes to corporates 1:10:17: A German football interlude 1:11:35: The importance of breathing 1:20:15: Wim Hof and cold showers 1:25:11: Can you read people’s stress levels? 1:29:27: The five pillars of health 1:34:27: The importance of the natural environment 1:37:38: Manifestation 1:40:07: Last words from Steve, Seamus and DaveSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.