
Clauses & Controversies
Clauses and Controversies: A Podcast about International Finance, Contract Clauses and the Controversies Surrounding These Clauses
Latest episodes

Aug 19, 2024 • 44min
Ep 139 ft. Oona Hathaway
A Better Way to Freeze (and Seize?) Russian Assets?
Ever since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, there has been talk of what international law doctrines might be utilized to induce Russia to back off. One of those doctrines that has been whispered about is now, thanks to a wonderful new article by our guest, international law guru and Yale Law professor, Oona Hathaway, is that of Countermeasures. Oona and her co authors not only explain the law of countermeasures, but argue that these legal principles naturally extend into a doctrine of “collective countermeasures”. We ask Oona about these doctrines and their scope, particularly in the context of Russia and Ukraine. She argues that the doctrine, properly understood and applied, is (and should be) narrow. To quote Spider Man (maybe), “With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility”.
Producer: Leanna Doty

Aug 12, 2024 • 40min
Ep 138 ft. Randle DeFalco
Randle DeFalco, a legal expert from Widener University Law School, dives into the intricate history of Cambodia's debts to the US stemming from controversial loans in the 1970s. He explores the moral dilemmas surrounding these debts, especially given the US's role in supporting a dubious government during a tumultuous period. The conversation examines colonialism's lingering effects, Cambodia's struggles for sovereignty amid coups, and the implications of repaying loans tied to violations of international law. This complex narrative raises essential questions about justice and historical grievances.

Aug 5, 2024 • 43min
Ep 137 ft. Joseph Cotterill
In this discussion, Joseph Cotterill, a Financial Times expert, delves into Ukraine's ambitious debt restructuring deal amid ongoing conflict, addressing the unrealistic IMF projections and bondholder dynamics. He explains the complexities of including state-owned enterprise debts like Ukrenergo and the urgency behind restoring investor confidence. The conversation also touches on Mozambique's contentious tuna bonds saga, including a recent High Court ruling that awarded significant damages and the ramifications of corruption and legal battles on the country's financial landscape.

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May 20, 2024 • 44min
Ep 136 ft. Andrew Wilkinson
Andrew Wilkinson, an expert in sovereign debt restructurings, discusses the risks of liability in creditor complaints, the use of tortious interference with contract in the Zambia debt restructuring, and the importance of fair treatment for all stakeholders in restructuring deals. He shares insights on the complexities of navigating bankruptcy law, managing creditor negotiations, and achieving successful outcomes in financial restructurings.

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Apr 29, 2024 • 33min
Ep 135 ft. Ben Heller
Featuring Ben Heller, the podcast delves into El Salvador's unique bond issuance with a warrant tied to IMF deal and credit rating. The discussion highlights the complexities of financial warrants, governance-linked bonds, and the debate surrounding bond proceeds for buybacks. It also emphasizes the importance of transparent EM debt contracts for investor clarity.

Apr 15, 2024 • 31min
Ep 134 ft. Mitu & Mark
The Latest in the Argentine GDP Warrant Saga: Drafting Goof or Sneaky Drafting?
There are so many intriguing aspects of the latest installment of the Argentine GDP Warrant Saga. This time, from Judge Preska in the SDNY, Argentina scores a big, and for us, totally unexpected victory. Argentina’s lawyers, at a very late stage, discovered a magic bullet that no one seems to have realized was there. Mark doesn’t like to use the term “contractual landmine”, but he does here. Mitu applauds.
Producer: Leanna Doty

Apr 8, 2024 • 44min
Ep 133 ft. Jerome Sgard
Jerome Sgard discusses the 1980s debt crisis and the Brady Plan, unraveling the hidden history of sovereign debt crises. Topics include the complexities of restructuring, sovereign debt litigation dynamics, and the US government's position. Explore the non-contractual nature of standby agreements, secret buybacks, and strategies for market re-entry.

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Apr 1, 2024 • 44min
Ep 132 ft. Ingrid Brunk & Paul Stephan
Financial experts Ingrid Brunk and Paul Stephan discuss utilizing frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine, exploring legal complexities and political implications. They delve into asset confiscation proposals, navigating reparations, and addressing global financial risks amidst de-dollarization trends.

Mar 25, 2024 • 41min
Ep 131 ft. Mitu & Mark
Confusion surrounds the treatment of Ukrenergo bondholders in debt restructuring. The podcast explores complexities of Ukrainian bond guarantees, modification implications, and interactions with the IMF. Discussions on state-owned companies efficiency, financial restructuring, and guarantee implications for Ukraine add depth to the episode.

Mar 18, 2024 • 36min
Ep 130 ft. Kejal Vyas
Discussion on the impact of lifting sanctions on purchasing Venezuelan bonds, influencing geopolitics and bond ownership. Kejal Vyas sheds light on the policy shift and complexities surrounding Venezuelan debt restructuring amidst US sanctions and lobbying efforts.