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United Nations Library & Archives Geneva
Are you curious about the power of international cooperation? And how it affects our future? Tune in to the #NextPagePod, the podcast of the UN Library & Archives Geneva, designed to advance the conversation on multilateralism.
Episodes
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Sep 1, 2023 • 50min
The Democracy-Multilateralism Nexus with Corinne Momal-Vanian
Corinne Momal-Vanian is the Executive Director of the Kofi Annan Foundation. Previously, she worked in various senior positions and a variety of countries for the United Nations, most recently as Director of Conference Management at the United Nations Office at Geneva (2015-2020) and Director of Information (2010-2015).
We invited Corinne Momal-Vanian back to The Next Page for a conversation with the Director of the Library & Archives, Francesco Pisano to explore an intriguing topic: the nexus between democracy and multilateralism. In an increasingly interconnected world, how do these two fundamental ideas interact and shape the global IR landscape? They discuss how democracy can serve and support multilateralism, the evolution of multilateralism and the rise of non-state actors and civil society organizations, and the role of youth in democratizing multilateralism.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CMomal
https://twitter.com/KofiAnnanFdn
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kofiannanfoundation
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kofi-annan-foundation
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/kofiannanfoundation
Instagram: www.instagram.com/kofiannanfoundation
Resources
Website - V-Dem (Varieties of Democracy): https://v-dem.net/
Ruggie, J. (1998) Constructing the World Polity: Essays on International Institutionalization. London and New York: Routledge.
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube:
Content
Speaker: Corinne Momal-Vanian
Host: Francesco Pisano, Director, UN Library & Archives
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing & social media: Amy Smith & Nadia Al Droubi
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Aug 11, 2023 • 54min
Marcel Griaule - une conversation avec Yves Pourcher
Marcel Griaule, un ethnographe dans la diplomatie de l’entre-deux-guerres avec Yves Pourcher
Pour cet épisode, nous sommes ravis d’accueillir Yves Pourcher pour parler de Marcel Griaule, un anthropologue, explorateur et écrivain au destin particulier notamment parce qu’il est entré dans la diplomatie lors de la crise d'Abyssinie.
Yves Pourcher, professeur de science politique, a rassemblé plus de 50 textes de Marcel Griaule dans une publication, parue en 2023, intitulée Envahir l’Ethiopie. L’ethnologue en guerre (1935-1936). Il détaille le parcours de vie original de Marcel Griaule et, en particulier, sa fonction de conseiller particulier d’Haïlé Sélassié pendant la guerre italo-éthiopienne qui l’a mené à participer à la rédaction du fameux discours prononcé par l’Empereur d’Ethiopie devant l’Assemblée de la Société des Nations, à Genève, le 30 juin 1936. Un extrait sonore, avec la voix d’Haïlé Sélassié enregistré le jour du discours, est à écouter pendant l’épisode. Yves Pourcher s’exprime également sur l’engagement des ethnologues qui sont confrontés à une guerre sur leur « terrain » d’étude.
Ressources
Livre « Envahir l’Ethiopie. L’ethnologue en guerre (1935-1936) », éditions Anacharsis : https://www.editions-anacharsis.com/Envahir-l-Ethiopie
Plus d'informations sur Yves Pourcher : https://lassp.sciencespo-toulouse.fr/Yves-POURCHER
Différend entre l’Ethiopie et l’Italie. Requête du gouvernement éthiopien (commentaires de M. Marcel Griaule) (14 septembre 1935) : https://archives.ungeneva.org/differend-entre-lethiopie-et-litalie-requete-du-gouvernement-ethiopien
Texte du discours d’Haïlé Sélassié devant l’Assemblée de la Société des Nations (30 juin 1936) en français et amharique : https://archives.ungeneva.org/ethiopia-speech-by-the-emperor-haile-selassie-to-the-league-assembly-2
Enregistrement sonore du discours d’Haïlé Sélassié devant l’Assemblée de la Société des Nations (30 juin 1936) : https://archives.ungeneva.org/haile-selassie-eth-whole-speech-in-amharic
Où écouter cet épisode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube:
Contenu
Invitée : Yves Pourcher
Animatrice : Hermine Diebolt
Réalisation et montage : Amy Smith
Conception pour réseaux sociaux : Amy Smith & Nadia Al Droubi
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jul 21, 2023 • 47min
Night on Earth - a bookcast with Davide Rodogno
In this episode, Davide Rodogno introduces his book Night on Earth, an account of international humanitarian programmes in Central and Eastern Europe, the Balkans, and the Near East in the interwar period from 1918 to 1930.
Professor Rodogno explains how concepts of international 'relief' and 'development' were deeply connected long before the existence of the United Nations. Through the conversation, we explore the long history of humanitarians operating in the region devastated by war and famine and in which state sovereignty was deficient and hear about the colonial motivations and ideologies that influenced the activities of the various secular and religious organizations and philanthropic foundations in their attempts to reshape communities and nations through reconstruction and rehabilitation programmes.
Davide Rodogno is Professor of International History and Politics, Head of the Interdisciplinary Programmes at the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies in Geneva. He specializes in researching international organizations and philanthropic foundations, and transnational networks and movements since the 19th century.
https://www.graduateinstitute.ch/academic-departments/faculty/davide-rodogno
Resources
Rodogno, D. (2021) Night on Earth. A History of International Humanitarianism in the Near East, 1918–1930. Cambridge University Press
Rodogno, D. (2015) Against Massacre: Humanitarian Interventions in the Ottoman Empire (1815-1914), Princeton University Press – Series: Human Rights and Crimes Against Humanity, Princeton, 2011, paperback.
Daughton, J.P. (2012) In the Forest of No Joy: The Congo-Ocean Railroad and the Tragedy of French Colonialism. New York. Norton
Foliard, D. (2022). The violence of colonial photography. Manchester University Press.
Levi, P. (1988) The Drowned and the Saved. Simon & Schuster Paperbacks. New York.
Maalouf, A. (2006). Origines. Le Livre de Poche.
Pamuk, O. (2022) Nights of Plague. Knopf.
Robson, L. (2017). States of Separation: Transfer, Partition, and the Making of the Modern Middle East. Oakland, CA: University of California Press.
White, B. T. (2011). The Emergence of Minorities in the Middle East: The Politics of Community in French Mandate Syria. Edinburgh University Press.
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube:
Content
Speaker: Professor Davide Rodogno
Host: Francesco Pisano, Director, UN Library & Archives
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing & social media: Amy Smith & Nadia Al Droubi
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jul 7, 2023 • 1h 3min
Women who shaped the UN - a conversation with Rebecca Adami
We invited Dr. Rebecca Adami, Associate Professor, Senior Lecturer at Stockholm University, Award winner of the 2022 Bertha Lutz Prize for highest quality public writing and research on women in diplomacy by the Diplomatic Studies Section (DPLST) of the International Studies Association (ISA), for a conversation around the role non-Western women had in shaping the UN system, from the UN Charter to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
In this rich conversation, Dr. Adami shares with us the context of situation post-World War II and tells us the story of how the rights of women were included in the text of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. She introduces us to several of the prominent non-Western women who were behind the negotiations both at the San Francisco Conference and for the drafting of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including Hansa Jivraj Mehta and Lakshmi Menon from India, Minerva Bernardino from the Dominican Republic, and Begum Shaista Ikramullah from Pakistan.
Resources
Adami, R and Plesch, D. (2022) Women and the UN: a new history of women's international human rights. London: Routledge
https://www.routledge.com/Women-and-the-UN-A-New-History-of-Womens-International-Human-Rights/Adami-Plesch/p/book/9780367478230#
Adami, R. (2019). Women and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. New York: Routledge
https://www.routledge.com/Women-and-the-Universal-Declaration-of-Human-Rights/Adami/p/book/9781138345355
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fslNo-7U9hg
Content
Speaker: Dr. Rebecca Adami, Associate Professor,
Host: Francesco Pisano, Director, UN Library & Archives
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing & social media: Amy Smith & Nadia Al Droubi
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jun 23, 2023 • 45min
Géopolitique des féminismes – une conversation avec Marie-Cécile Naves
Nous continuons notre série en lien avec le rapport du Secrétaire-général Notre programme commun, le Sommet pour les ODD, et le Sommet de l’avenir avec un épisode qui souligne l’importance de mettre l’égalité des genres au cœur de l’architecture multilatérale. Pour cet épisode, nous avons invité Marie-Cécile Naves, Directrice de recherche et Directrice de l‘Observatoire « Genre et géopolitique » à l’Institut de Relations Internationales et Stratégiques (IRIS) afin qu’elle nous parle de son dernier livre « Géopolitique des féminismes » publié aux Éditions Eyrolles. Marie-Cécile Naves aborde la géopolitique par le genre et nous explique l’importance du gender maintreaming dans toutes les thématiques de l’agenda international. Elle nous emmène faire un tour de monde grâce à ses exemples inspirants dans la lutte pour l’égalité.
Ressources
Site de Marie-Cécile Naves : https://mariececilenaves.com/mcn/
IRIS : https://www.iris-france.org/observatoires/observatoire-genre-et-geopolitique/
Naves, M.C., 2023. Géopolitique des féminismes. Editions Eyrolles.
Naves, M.C., 2023. « Calmez-vous madame, ça va bien se passer ». Calmann-Levy.
Où écouter cet épisode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube:
Contenu
Invitée : Marie-Cécile Naves
Animatrice : Amy Smith
Réalisation et montage : Amy Smith
Conception pour réseaux sociaux : Amy Smith & Nadia Al Droubi
Photo Marie-Cécile Naves : @ Xavier Desplas
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jun 9, 2023 • 44min
Multilateralism & the UN today - a conversation with Richard Gowan
In this episode, we met with Richard Gowan, UN Director at International Crisis Group (ICG) to get his perspective on current issues and trends in multilateralism. He shared his thoughts on reasons for optimism and pessimism about the way multilateralism is functioning, the ways in which it is evolving and the values on which it stands. We also talked about the UN, possibilities of reform, the SDGs, the Secretary-General’s report Our Common Agenda and the Summit for the Future. Richard also explained the importance of the UN entities based in Geneva in the UN system.
Richard Gowan can be followed on Twitter @RichardGowan1
Resources
International Crisis Group: https://www.crisisgroup.org/
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO1Vt8_OC7g&t=3s
Content
Speaker: Richard Gowan, UN Director, International Crisis Group
Host: Amy Smith
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing & social media: Amy Smith & Nadia Al Droubi
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 26, 2023 • 53min
A time for change and effective multilateralism – a conversation with Adam Day
In this episode we explore a recent report of the High-Level Advisory Board on Effective Multilateralism - A Breakthrough for People and Planet: Effective and Inclusive Global Governance for Today and the Future (United Nations University, 2023) - which offers a pathway to revitalize the multilateral system in view of the Summit of the Future. The Summit of the Future will be a key moment to reaffirm and recommit to effective multilateralism in the interest of both people and the planet.
Adam Day is Head of the Geneva Office of United Nations University Centre for Policy Research. He oversees programming on peacebuilding, human rights, peacekeeping, climate-security, sanctions, and global governance, while also acting as co-lead on UNU-CPR’s support to the High-Level Advisory Board on Effective Multilateralism.
Resources
United Nations University: https://unu.edu/explore
HLAB Report: https://highleveladvisoryboard.org/breakthrough/pdf/56892_UNU_HLAB_report_Final_LOWRES.pdf
High Level Advisory Board: https://highleveladvisoryboard.org/
Books mentioned:
Slaughter, Anne-Marie. (2018). The Chessboard and the Web: Strategies of Connection in a Networked World. Yale University Press.
Carayannis, Tatiana & Weiss, Thomas G. (2021) The “Third” United Nations: How A Knowledge Ecology Helps the UN Think. Oxford University Press.
Where to listen to this episode
· Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
· Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
· YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc7CX2RRWZ8&list=PLmzrhlc0gF6KlZ8KES5Jzho0d-UZdyuIx
Content
Speaker: Dr. Adam Day, Head of Geneva Office, United Nations University Centre for Policy Research
Host: Francesco Pisano
Producer, editing & social media: Amy Smith
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 12, 2023 • 40min
Knowledge and Learning for Multilateralism - a conversation with UN Assistant Secretary-General Nikhil Seth
UN Assistant Secretary-General Nikhil Seth, Executive Director of UNITAR, joined Francesco Pisano for a conversation about knowledge and learning for multilateralism in this 60th anniversary year of UNITAR. UNITAR was created by the United Nations General Assembly in 1963 and started operating in March 1965.The Institute originally had its headquarters in New York and a European Office in Geneva. In 1993, UNITAR’s headquarters were moved to Geneva.
Over the past decades the Institute has acquired unique expertise, accumulating experience, knowledge and capacities to design and implement a variety of training activities.
Nikhil and Francesco discuss the work of UNITAR, the role of knowledge in multilateralism, and look at where we are going post 2030 and what we need to meet the challenges ahead.
Resources
UNITAR website: https://unitar.org/
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube:
Content
Speaker: United Nations Assistant-Secretary-General, Nikhil Seth
Host: Francesco Pisano
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing and social media designs: Sotheapanha Theng
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 28, 2023 • 54min
Re-imagining International Relations - a conversation with Professor Amitav Acharya
Re-imagining International Relations - A conversation with Amitav Acharya
Taking as a starting point that today’s multilateralism is in urgent need of an upgrade, Library & Archives Director, Francesco Pisano talks with Professor Amitav Acharya about how Global International Relations could broaden the Eurocentric way concepts and ideas in international relations developed, so that the practice of international relations could transform to be better adapted to the pluralistic world in which we live.
Amitav Acharya is the UNESCO Chair in Transnational Challenges and Governance and Distinguished Professor at the School of International Service, American University, Washington, DC. Previously he was a Professor at York University, Toronto and the University of Bristol, U.K. He is currently Honorary Professor at Rhodes University, South Africa, and Guest Professor at Nankai University, China. He was the inaugural Boeing Company Chair in International Relations at the Schwarzman Scholars Program at Tsinghua University, Fellow of Harvard’s Asia Center and John F. Kennedy School of Government, and Christensen Fellow at Oxford.
Amitav Acharya is also the recipient of an International Studies Association (ISA) Distinguished Scholar Award 2023 for his “extraordinary impact” in globalizing the study of International Relations and “mentorship of emerging scholars”.
Resources
Website: https://www.american.edu/sis/faculty/aacharya.cfm
Amitav Acharya’s Blog, The Multiplex World: https://multiplexworld.com/
Twitter: @AmitavAcharya https://twitter.com/amitavacharya
Books:
Acharya, A. & Buzan, B. (2021). Re-imagining International Relations. World Orders in the Thought and Practice of Indian, Chinese, and Islamic Civilizations. Cambridge University Press.
Acharya, A. & Buzan, B. (2019). The Making of Global International Relations. Origins and Evolution of IR at its Centenary. Cambridge University Press.
Acharya, A. (2018). Constructing Global Order. Agency and Change in World Politics. Cambridge University Press.
Acharya, A. (2018). The End of American World Order, 2nd Edition. Wiley.
Acharya, A. (2013). Rethinking Power, Institutions and Ideas in World Politics. Whose IR? Routledge.
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdteR2XP-A4&list=PLmzrhlc0gF6KlZ8KES5Jzho0d-UZdyuIx
Content
Speaker: Professor Amitav Acharya
Host: Francesco Pisano
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing & Social media designs: Amy Smith and Sotheapanha Theng
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 14, 2023 • 59min
Inside the Human Rights Council – a conversation with Ambassador Federico Villegas
Inside the Human Rights Council – a conversation with Ambassador Federico Villegas, 16th President of the Human Rights Council
Human rights are a burning issue at the centre of the international arena because they are fundamental to humankind. The interpretation and respect of human rights and the response to their violations depend on discussions held annually by the Human Rights Council that convenes in Geneva. Ambassador Villegas was President of the Council in 2022, one of the most challenging years on the body's record. In this podcast episode, Ambassador Villegas explains why the Council is so important, talks about the state of human rights in the world today and shares his thoughts on the strong connection between human rights and multilateralism.
Resources
Website: https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/sessions
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube:
Content
Speaker: Ambassador Federico Villegas
Host: Francesco Pisano
Producer: Amy Smith
Editing & Social media designs: Sotheapanha Theng
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva