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Aug 6, 2021 • 45min
Women in Tech: why it matters with Doreen Bogdan-Martin
This episode of the #NextPagePod brings you a timely conversation between the Director of the ITU Telecommunication Development Bureau, Doreen Bogdan-Martin and our Director Francesco Pisano about women in tech.
As the first woman in ITU’s history to hold a top elected management position, Doreen Bogdan-Martin speaks about her experience as a female leader in the male-dominated tech sector, why the industry can be discouraging for women, why the industry perpetuates gender bias, and tech ethics.
Doreen Bogdan-Martin asserts that putting more emphasis on people-centered technology is key to achieving the 17 Sustainable Development Goals and helping people live better lives. She also enlightens us on how the Bureau makes substantial efforts to encourage young people’s participation in the sector, not only as beneficiaries but as creators and changemakers.
Resources:
Follow Doreen Bogdan-Martin on Twitter at @DoreenBogdan
Or the BDT Director's Twitter here @ITUBDTDirector
Find Doreen Bogdan-Martin on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doreentbogdan/
Find more info about Bogdan-Martin here: https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/bdt-director/Pages/Biography.aspx
More about ITU: www.ITU.int
The EQUALS Global Partnership for Gender Equality in the Digital Age: https://www.equalsintech.org/
The International Gender Champions (IGC): https://genderchampions.com/
Women@theTable : https://www.womenatthetable.net/
School connectivity effort (GIGA): https://gigaconnect.org/
“Building Smart Villages: A Blueprint”: https://www.itu.int/en/myitu/News/2020/06/12/13/32/Niger-launches-Smart-Village-project
Generation Connect Initiative: https://www.itu.int/generationconnect
Transcript: here
Content:
Speakers: Doreen Bogdan-Martin & Francesco Pisano
Host: Katrine Lyngso
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jul 23, 2021 • 36min
Repenser les études internationales et du développement avec Marie-Laure Salles
Pour l’épisode 56, nous sommes très heureux d’accueillir Marie-Laure Salles, qui nous parle des interactions complexes entre le monde dès l’économie et la société et de la nécessité de former les jeunes autrement, si nous voulons « changer la culture du monde » et faire face aux enjeux du futur.
Marie-Laure Salles est une sociologue et universitaire renommée qui est, depuis septembre 2020, la directrice de l’Institut des Hautes Études et du Développement (l’IHEID) à Genève.
Dans cet épisode, Marie-Laure Salles partage sa vision sur la manière dont les étudiants doivent être préparé au monde de demain d’une manière radicalement différente de celle qui prévaut aujourd’hui.
L’épisode permet également de comprendre comment un plan d’action commun entre l’Organisation des Nations Unis à Genève et l’IHEID, qui partagent un lien historique, va permettre de concrétiser en partie de cette vision. Marie-Laure Salles insiste en particulier sur la nécessité de mettre en place des mécanismes qui permettront aux jeunes générations d’affirmer leurs idées auprès de l’ONU et de se faire entendre au sein de l’Organisation.
Ressources
Plus d'infos sur Marie-Laure Salles: https://g.co/kgs/5KWXtG
Retrouvez Marie-Laure Salles sur Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marielauredjelic/
Retrouvez Marie-Laure Salles sur Twitter : https://twitter.com/mlevasalles
Consultez les recherches de Marie-Laure Salles : https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=g1JxoogAAAAJ
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Contenu :
Intervenant: Marie-Laure Salles
Animatrice: Blandine Blukacz-Louisfert
Réalisation et montage: Blandine Blukacz-Louisfert, Natalie Alexander & Katrine Lyngso
Francesco Pisano pour l’introduction
Enregistré et produit à la Bibliothèque des Nations Unies à Genève

Jul 9, 2021 • 49min
Neutrality and vulnerable states with Ambassador Nasir Andisha of Afghanistan
What is neutrality and why it is beneficial for some states? How do geopolitical tensions influence Afghanistan's potential for permanent neutrality?
In episode 55 of the #NextPagePod, our director Francesco Pisano spoke to Dr Nasir A. Andisha, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Afghanistan to the UN in Geneva, about Afghanistan's periods of neutrality which have coincided with periods of stability and peace.
Dr Andisha is also the author of Neutrality and Vulnerable States, which analyses the concept and practice of neutrality from an academic and historical perspective. In this conversation, the ambassador also gave us his perspective of Afghanistan's future in light of the US's withdrawal of all its troops and how this can affect its prospects of regional neutrality.
Resources:
Follow Dr. Andisha on Twitter https://twitter.com/AndishaNasir
Neutrality and Vulnerable States: https://bit.ly/36n6NfW
More about Dr. Andisha: https://www.geneva.mfa.af/en/the-embassy/ambassador-s-biography.html
Transcript: here
Content:
Speakers: Dr. Nasir A. Andisha & Francesco Pisano
Host: Katrine Lyngso
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jun 25, 2021 • 41min
L’histoire du multilatéralisme et des organisations internationales à Genève avec Olga Hidalgo-Weber
Pour cet épisode, nous sommes heureux d’accueillir Olga Hidalgo-Weber pour parler de l’ouvrage publié sous sa direction et celle de Bernard Lescaze intitulé «100 ans de multilatéralisme à Genève. De la SdN à l’ONU », paru en 2020 aux éditions Suzanne Hurter.
Olga Hidalgo-Weber, en tant qu’historienne et chargée de cours à l’Université de Genève, nous communique sa passion pour l’histoire et partage avec nous son érudition et sa vision sur le multilatéralisme. Elle nous explique, en particulier, quelles sont les nouvelles approches développées dans le domaine de la recherche historique sur les organisations internationales. Elle nous illustre comment cet ouvrage collectif porte un regard nouveau sur la Société des Nations et le multilatéralisme en général. Elle s’exprime également sur la résilience du système multilatéral et sur certains acteurs emblématiques du multilatéralisme. Enfin, elle nous offre un court exposé sur l'institutionnalisation du multilatéralisme en prenant l’exemple du secrétariat international.
Cet épisode permet de mieux comprendre comment l'histoire du multilatéralisme peut se confondre avec l'histoire des organisations internationales.
Ressources
Plus d'infos sur Hidalgo-Weber: https://www.unige.ch/lettres/istge/corps-enseignant/hco/hidalgo-weber-olga/
Retrouvez Olga sur Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olga-hidalgo-weber/?originalSubdomain=ch
La Grande-Bretagne et l’Organisation internationale du travail: https://bit.ly/3vRk7mN
Livre « 100 ans de multilatéralisme à Genève de la SdN à l’ONU », éditions Hurter : https://www.editions-hurter.ch/produit/100-ans-de-multilateralisme-a-geneve-de-la-sdn-a-lonu/
Livre « 100 ans de multilatéralisme à Genève de la SdN à l’ONU », UN Global Search: https://bit.ly/2SizDut
Evénement « Genève, ville internationale. De la Société des Nations à l'ONU, 100 ans de multilatéralisme (1920-2020) » : https://mediaserver.unige.ch/play/142340
Contenu
Intervenant: Olga Hidalgo-Weber
Animatrice: Hermine Diebolt
Réalisation et montage: Hermine Diebolt, Natalie Alexander & Katrine Lyngso
Enregistré et produit à la Bibliothèque des Nations Unies à Genève

Jun 11, 2021 • 57min
Harnessing economics for humanitarian action with Gilles Carbonnier
In this episode, Gilles Carbonnier joined the #NextPagePod for a conversation about applying economic tools and methods to improve humanitarian responses to armed conflicts and disasters.
Carbonnier is a specialist in the domain of humanitarian response with expertise on several levels. Carbonnier is a Professor of Development Economics at the Graduate Institute whose research focuses mainly on the economics of humanitarian crises and the Vice-President of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). Carbonnier also has vast experience as a practitioner in the field of humanitarian missions, in countries including Iraq and Egypt. In this episode, the economist explains how these levels of humanitarian work corporate and especially how economics can contribute to a better understanding of the side effects and contributions of humanitarians.
Carbonnier also explained economics can bring valuable contributions to solving armed conflicts in interdisciplinary dialogue with phycologists, anthropologists, historians, and political scientists.
Resources:
Follow Carbonnier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcarbonniericrc
Read more about Carbonnier: https://www.icrc.org/en/person/gilles-carbonnier
Humanitarian Economics: War, Disaster, and the Global Aid Market: https://bit.ly/3xbYsqG
Rebel Economies: Warlords, Insurgents, Humanitarians: https://bit.ly/3vc75Qw
Reason, emotion, compassion: can altruism survive professionalisation in the humanitarian sector: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25439560/
The Theory of Moral Sentiments by Adam Smith: https://www.adamsmith.org/the-theory-of-moral-sentiments
Households in Conflict Network: https://hicn.org/
Cash Learning Partnership: https://www.calpnetwork.org/
Centre for Economic Policy Research: https://cepr.org/
Transcript: Here
Content:
Speakers: Gilles Carbonnier & Francesco Pisano
Host: Katrine Lyngso
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 28, 2021 • 31min
Diversity in youth voice with Alicia Joho #KnowledgeRising
Why does multilateralism matter to young people? And how do we create inclusive and diverse participation of young people in multilateral efforts? In this episode, Natalie Alexander poses these questions and many more to Alicia Joho as a part of our #KnowledgeRising series.
Alicia Joho is a student studying a Dual Master's degree in International Relations, Human Rights and Humanitarian Action at the London School of Economics and Sciences Po, a former Swiss youth delegate to the United Nations, Communications Director at STEAR and an intern at the UN's gender unit of the Executive Office of the Secretary-General.
Tune in to this conversation about diversity in youth voice, accounts of how young people are already shaping the future of multilateralism and getting beyond "token" representation.
Resources:
Follow Alicia Joho on Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliciajoho
Find Alicia Joho on Linkdin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliciajoho/?originalSubdomain=ch
Youth Delegate Program: www.youthrep.ch
Find the Youth Delegate Program Guide: here
STEAR: https://www.stearthinktank.com/
Transcript: Here
Content:
Speakers: Natalie Alexander & Alicia Joho
Host: Natalie Alexander
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 14, 2021 • 30min
Invisible history and the Institution of International Order with Prof. Alanna O’Malley
The historian Professor Alanna O’Malley from Leiden University, joined us at The Next Page to tell us more about her work as Chair of United Nations Studies in Peace and Justice and to explore some of the themes in the cross-disciplinary volume she co-edited on The Institution of International Order, tracing the period from the 1920s to the 1970s and spanning the transition from the League of Nations to the United Nations. She discusses the history of internationalism and the dynamic, complex forces at play around these two organisations as global platforms. Professor O’Malley also talks of her current research on the invisible history of the UN and the Global South.
Resources:
Professor O'Malley's bio: https://bit.ly/2QdzN58
Tracing the Invisible History of the Global South and the United Nations: https://bit.ly/2RR1X6m
The Institution of International Order: From the League of Nations to the United Nations: https://bit.ly/3uF8MGR
TedTalk: "The United Nations: From Blue Helmets to Blue Skies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng2TltnSDmU
The Guardians: The League of Nations and the Crisis of Empire by Susan Pedersen: https://bit.ly/3hppl5F
The Parliament of Man: The Past, Present, and Future of the United Nations by Paul Kennedy: https://bit.ly/2QelKMK
The End of Empire and the Ideological Origins of the United Nations by Mark M. Mazower: https://bit.ly/3borbjC
Transcript here
Content:
Speakers: Amy Smith & Professor Alanna O'Malley
Host: Amy Smith
Editor & Producer: Katrine Lyngso
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 30, 2021 • 41min
Dr. Elizabeth Sáenz on the interconnectivity of the Sustainable Development Goals
Dr. Elizabeth Sáenz joined The Next Page for a conversation on the interconnection between the Sustainable Development Goals. As a pediatrician and liaison officer for the United Nations Organization on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) at the WHO, Dr. Sáenz specializes in drug dependence treatment, with a special focus on prevention, treatment, and rehabilitation.
Speaking on this issue from the perspective of the SDGs, Dr. Sáenz explores how quality education, gender equality and even decent work and economic growth are all intertwined within this context. She highlights the need for greater compassion and understanding, the role that everyone can play towards raising awareness, and the vastly multi-faceted and multi-disciplinary nature of the ongoing efforts in prevention and treatment. Additionally, she speaks on the unique but collaborative roles of the UNODC and the WHO in advancing the conversation on this topic, through the lens of justice and health.
A fascinating conversation that shines a light on the interconnectedness of the Sustainable Development Goals, and the role that everyone can play, we hope this episode brings you new insights and perspectives.
Resources
Twitter – Dr. Sáenz: https://twitter.com/drelisaenz?lang=en
UNODC and the SDGs: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/about-unodc/sustainable-development-goals/sdgs-index.html
UNODC Drug Prevention and Treatment: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/drug-prevention-and-treatment/index.html
UNODC 2021-2025 Strategy: https://www.unodc.org/documents/commissions/CND/CND_Sessions/CND_63Reconvened/ECN72020_CRP22_ECN152020_CRP3_V2007057.pdf
UNODC Strategic Vision for Africa 2030: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/strategy/africa-vision.html
Transcript here
Content
Speakers: Karen Lee & Elizabeth Sáenz
Host/Editor: Karen Lee
Producers: Karen Lee & Natalie Alexander
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngso
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 16, 2021 • 37min
Dr. Katharina Rietzler on recovering Women’s Thought in International Relations
In this episode, historian, author and researcher Katharina Rietzler joins Francesco Pisano to talk about her new book called Women's International Thought: A new history. Dr Rietzler co-wrote the book after her research revealed that numerous women in history have researched and published in the field of international public affairs but only a few were present in the documented history of international relations as a disciple and in international thought.
Although the author pays tribute to otherwise marginalised female thinkers in the book, she also stressed the importance of not predetermining, romanticising and generalising women’s intersectional contributions purely on their gender.
Tune in to hear this intriguing discussion about rethinking the patriarchal history of international relations by challenging existing paradigms through the recovery of female voices.
Resources
Dr. Katharina Rietzler - Profile: https://bit.ly/3s9YGfc
Follow Katharina Rietzler on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kathistory
Women's International Thought: A New History: (book) https://bit.ly/3dNPXKc
Read the book through UN Library Geneva
The Leverhulme Project on Women’s Thought: https://bit.ly/3wQRzf7
The Leverhulme project publication: https://whit.web.ox.ac.uk/home#/
Transcript
Available here
Content
Speaker: Katharina Rietzler & Francesco Pisano
Host: Natalie Alexander
Producer/Editor: Katrine Lyngsø
Image: Fran Monks
Social media designs: Katrine Lyngsø
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 12, 2021 • 10min
Andrea Bellini on the role of art in multilateralism and intercultural dialogue - Excerpt in English
In this brief excerpt of Episode 48 – originally recorded in French – Kelly Le Normand speaks with Andrea Bellini.
Director of the Centre d’Art Contemporain Genève, artistic director of the Biennale of Moving Images, curator and contemporary art critic, Andrea Bellini shares his experience of international Geneva and offers us a unique perspective on multilateralism. His exhibitions and publications address major current themes – racial question, feminism, gender identity – and invite intercultural dialogue. He describes art as an indispensable tool for a better understanding of the world and a sharing of universal values.
Resources
Centre d’Art Contemporain Genève: https://centre.ch
Digital platform of the Centre: https://5e.centre.ch/en/
UNOG Art collection: https://bit.ly/3d0F9rS
MIRE Project: https://fcac.ch/commande-publique/projet-mire/
Transcript
Available here
Content
Speakers: Andrea Bellini
Host/Editor: Kelly Le Normand
Producers: Karen Lee & Natalie Alexander
Image: Mathilde Agius
Social media designs: Natalie Alexander
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva