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Jul 25, 2025 • 36min
Parliamentary cooperation for peace, justice and prosperity for all - with Martin Chungong
In this insightful episode, we are honored to host Mr. Martin Chungong, the Secretary General of the Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) and a leading voice in global parliamentary diplomacy. With over forty years of experience, Mr. Chungong shares his perspectives on the role of parliaments in addressing global challenges, fostering international cooperation, and promoting peace.
We delve into the significance of the upcoming Sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament in a world in turmoil, exploring its role in bringing top legislators together to tackle pressing issues such as climate change, conflict resolution, and health emergencies. Mr. Chungong also sheds light on the IPU's efforts to advance gender equality, youth participation, and interfaith dialogue, emphasizing the organization's commitment to an inclusive, collaborative approach.
Join us as we explore how the IPU is redefining parliamentary diplomacy, integrating scientific research, and setting the stage for effective solutions to modern global dilemmas. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in how parliaments can be a pivotal force in shaping a more democratic and harmonious world.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
The IPU is the global organization of national parliaments: https://www.ipu.org/
Parline: global data on National Parliaments: https://data.ipu.org/
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/D_IRzeA-a08
Content
Guest: Martin Chungong, Secretary General, IPU
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jul 18, 2025 • 39min
Exploring Well-Beingology: A Journey into the Science of Happiness
Welcome to the latest episode of The Next Page, where we explore the fascinating domain of "well-beingology" with Roberto De Vogli, Associate Professor at the University of Padua and Visiting Professor at the University of London. Roberto de Vogli delves into the social determinants of health to uncover how a transdisciplinary approach can enhance our understanding of well-being.
Throughout the episode, we explore how well-being extends beyond health, addressing the complex interplay of factors including socioeconomic conditions, political contexts, and environmental influences. Discover how these elements are biologically embedded in our lives, impacting not only our present but also the future.
De Vogli also illuminates the evolving challenges posed by climate change, highlighting the necessity for a cooperative, global approach to safeguard future generations. Gain insights into the concept of a well-being economy and the promise it holds for sustainable development.
Join us for this enlightening conversation as we seek to redefine the pursuit of happiness in a world facing unprecedented challenges and explore the potential pathways towards a positive social transformation.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
De Vogli, R. (2013). Progress or Collapse: The Crises of Market Greed. Routledge.
De Vogli, R. (2024). Managing and Preventing Pandemics: Lessons From COVID-19 (1st ed.). Routledge.
De Vogli, R., (2025) Selective Empathy: The West Through the Gaze of Gaza. Studies in Critical Social Sciences, Volume: 348. Brill. Not yet published.
Fioramonti, L., Coscieme, L., Costanza, R., Kubiszewski, I., Trebeck, K., Wallis, S., ... & De Vogli, R. (2022). Wellbeing economy: an effective paradigm to mainstream post-growth policies?. Ecological Economics, 192, 107261.
Simms, A. (2013). Cancel the apocalypse: The new path to prosperity. Hachette UK.
Newell, P., & Simms, A. (2020). How Did We Do That? Histories and Political Economies of Rapid and Just Transitions. New Political Economy, 26(6), 907–922.
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/
Content
Guest: Roberto De Vogli
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded online with apologies for the sound quality
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jul 4, 2025 • 36min
Navigating the Waves of Climate and Law: A Dive into Ocean Governance with Nilufer Oral
In this enlightening episode of "The Next Page," we are joined by Nilufer Oral, member of the International Law Commission and expert in climate law and ocean governance. We take a deep dive into the intricate relationship between climate change, the oceans, and international law. Niloufar shares her journey from focusing on navigation and marine protection to her involvement in pivotal climate change negotiations, including the Paris Agreement.
Listeners will gain insights into the complexities of integrating climate change considerations with the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and learn about the critical new report of the International Law Commission’s study group on sea level rise. The conversation also explores the economic and humanitarian implications of ocean acidification and the migration challenges posed by rising sea levels, urging a coordinated international response.
Engaging and thought-provoking, this episode offers a comprehensive look at how legal frameworks are evolving to address the pressing challenges climate change poses to our oceans and global society.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
ILC Reports
https://legal.un.org/ilc/guide/8_9.shtml#ilcrep
UNCLOS
https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/convention_overview_convention.htm
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/CWDmjqi9gfU
Content
Guest: Nilufer Oral
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jun 24, 2025 • 40min
International Day of Women in Diplomacy
Join us for the special episode in partnership with UN Women to commemorate the International Day of Women in Diplomacy. This conversation on gender equality in diplomacy features insights from the Director of UN Women in Geneva, Sofia Calltorp, and Dr. Sarah Chehab, a Senior Research Fellow at the Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy, in Abu Dhabi.
Dr. Chehab shares the journey of founding the Women in Diplomacy Research Program and provides the stark statistics on gender representation from the Women in Diplomacy Index. With compelling data, Dr. Chehab discusses the pressing need to bridge the gap in senior diplomatic roles and sparks discussion on the importance of feminist foreign policy.
Also joining the conversation, Sofia Calltorp, Director of UN Women in Geneva, shares her extensive experience in diplomacy and humanitarian affairs. She offers insights into UN Women's global efforts and highlights key developments in gender-responsive foreign policies.
This episode navigates through the challenges and triumphs of women's representation in diplomacy, emphasizing the crucial role of gender equality in achieving sustainable and inclusive peace and governance on a global scale. Tune in for an engaging dialogue on the future of diplomacy and the critical steps needed to ensure equal representation for all.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
The UN Secretary General's report on the 30-year review and appraisal of the Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action - https://docs.un.org/E/CN.6/2025/3
CSW 69 Political Declaration- https://docs.un.org/E/CN.6/2025/L.1
Women in Politics: 2025- https://www.unwomen.org/en/digital-library/publications/2025/03/women-in-politics-map-2025
Women in Diplomacy research programme, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy:
https://www.agda.ac.ae/research/publications-multimedia-events/women-in-diplomacy
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/Nn7Z6YolbXc
Content
Guests:
Dr. Sara Chehab, Senior Researcher, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy, United Arab Emirates
Ms. Sofia Calltorp, Director, UN Women Geneva
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jun 20, 2025 • 33min
Anda Filip: the parliamentary dimension of global governance
In this episode, we explore the world of parliamentary diplomacy with our special guest, Ambassador Anda Filip, Director for Member Parliaments and External Relations at the Interparliamentary Union (IPU). Ambassador Filip, an experienced diplomat, shares insights about her career journey and the pivotal role IPU plays in fostering global cooperation through its work which helps bridge international and national levels, and the democracy gap in international affairs.
We explore the importance of the upcoming Sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament and how it serves as a platform for addressing pressing global issues by providing a unique forum for high-level engagement and dialogue among parliamentary leaders from around the world.
As we celebrate International Day of Women in Diplomacy in June, Ambassador Filip also highlights the critical challenges and advancements in gender equality within parliaments, celebrating success stories from around the world and underscoring the barriers women continue to face in politics.
Join us as Ambassador Filip offers valuable perspectives on the evolution of IPU's relationship with the United Nations, the power of parliamentary diplomacy in conflict resolution, and the inspiring initiatives that are paving the way for inclusive governance globally.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
IPU: https://www.ipu.org/
Sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament, 29-31 July 2025 https://www.ipu.org/event/sixth-world-conference-speakers-parliament
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/
Content
Guest: Ambassador Anda Filip
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Jun 13, 2025 • 12min
Discovering Human Rights History: Archives Inscribed in UNESCO Memory of the World
Join us as we celebrate International Archives Week on the theme of Archives for Everyone, with our latest news from the Library & Archives.
In this compelling discussion, Danielle Hughes, an archivist and the chief of the Records Management Unit at UN Geneva, speaks about the significance of the archives related to the International Bill of Human Rights being inscribed into the UNESCO Memory of the World Heritage register.
Discover how these archives related to the drafting of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, were preserved and recognized for their global importance, including the original drafts and influential changes inspired by key figures such as Eleanor Roosevelt and Hansa Mehta.
The episode also sheds light on the role played by Geneva in hosting these pivotal documents and addresses the broader context of preserving institutional memory for future generations, emphasizing the imperative of safeguarding both historical and contemporary archival collections.
Resources and for more information: Ask an Archivist!: Ask us - Ask us
UN Archives Geneva online catalogue: www.archives.ungeneva.org
UNARMS online catalogue in New York: www.search.archives.un.org
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/15ThYV_-g_A
Content
Guest: Danielle Hughes, Archivist, UN Geneva
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded and produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 23, 2025 • 32min
Futuring & Science Fiction: a conversation with Dr. Martin Wählisch
Dr. Martin Wählisch, Associate Professor of Transformative Technologies, Innovation, and Global Affairs at the University of Birmingham, delves into the intersection of emerging technologies and international relations in this fascinating episode focused on science-fiction.
Dr. Wählisch discusses how AI, especially empathetic chatbots, can redefine diplomatic conversations and peace processes. Martin also explores the role of futures thinking and science fiction in shaping multilateral policies and encouraging creative solutions to global challenges. This discussion highlights the growing importance of strategic foresight in diplomacy and the valuable lessons hidden within science fiction narratives.
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
Dr. Martin Wählisch: https://globalpeacelab.net/
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/2lKIx8bFxuY
Content
Guest: Martin Wählisch
Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

May 2, 2025 • 48min
The Progressive Development of International Law: a conversation with Huw Llewellyn
Join us for an episode recorded in August 2024, with Huw Llewellyn, the former Director of the Codification Division of the United Nations Office of Legal Affairs and former Secretary to the International Law Commission (ILC), in a conversation about the evolution of international law.
We cover the history of the ILC, its role in the evolution of international law, and its relationship with the UN Sixth Committee. Huw shares insights from his 42-year career, revealing the Commission's approach to codification and progressive development of the law. The episode also explores the historical milestones that shaped international law, from the Peace of Westphalia in 1648 to the League of Nations.
Huw talks about how stability and change in international relations is reflected in the work of the ILC, tells us more about the Commission's achievements over 75 years, and new areas of work on the agenda including the topic of sea level rise.
We conclude with a personal glimpse into Huw’s retirement plans and his recommendations for crime thriller enthusiasts (Lee Child and Martin Walker)!
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
International Law Commission: https://legal.un.org/ilc/
Resource guide: https://libraryresources.unog.ch/legal/legal/ILC
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/FZX3y3SADV4
Content
Guest: Huw Llewellyn
Host: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Production and editing: Amy Smith
Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 24, 2025 • 32min
GenSouth: Four visions for multilateralism
This episode is released to mark the International Day of Multilateralism and Diplomacy for Peace 2025.
We invited Marie Hürlimann, Co-Director, and Raphaëlle Leung, Head of Communications of Foraus, a Swiss participatory think tank for young thinkers who want to shape tomorrow’s foreign policy, to talk about the latest Foraus publication that they co-edited with Maximillian Rau: GenSouth - New voices from the Global South for the multilateral system of the future.
GenSouth is a programme designed to bring together academics and think tank researchers from the Global South, aged between 25 and 35, to engage in discussions about the multilateralism of the future and to develop actionable, ambitious recommendations.
Marie and Raphaëlle talk with Francesco Pisano, Director of the UN Library & Archives in Geneva, about the GenSouth project. They reveal to us four visions of possible futures of multilateralism elaborated in the report.
GenSouth sees a world built on collective responsibility where the international community does not stand by in the violation of IHL; a reimagined South-South cooperation prioritising resilience, sustainability, and sovereignty; a transformation of the global financial architecture to empower vulnerable communities' access to climate finance; and Security Council reform for the inclusion of global south and the future of peace.
With thanks to the authors: Subia Ahmad, Maria Dominika Mediana Rossa Budhisatrio, Marième Cissé, Marília Closs, Paula Lottenberg, Muhammad Nidhal, Luanda Mpungose, Kwaji Ble Ngida, Olumide Onitekun, Luis Gabriel Herrera Perez, Beatriz Pfeifer, Pratyush Sharma, Parousia Tlhompho Shikwambane, Malena Viú.
Read about GenSouth and access the report: https://foraus.ch/en/projects/gensouth-programme-2024/
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/7lh81yuAPxQ
Content
Guests: Marie Hürlimann and Raphaëlle Leung, Foraus
Host: Francesco Pisano, Director, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded and produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva

Apr 4, 2025 • 40min
Reimagining Global Governance for Food Security: Insights from the Kofi Annan Foundation
In this episode, we examine the complex issue of global food security and the need for a revamped governance system. Despite having enough food produced worldwide to feed everyone, millions still suffer from hunger due to systemic failures.
Our guest, Amir Abdulla, one of the Commissioners of the Kofi Annan Foundation Commission on Food Security, shares vital insights from the recently released report entitled "Reimagining Global Governance." The report provides a roadmap to address systemic failures in our broken global food governance system and to redefine how we address one of humanity’s most pressing challenges. It outlines four governance shifts and provides ten actionable recommendations.
Amir Abdulla, with his extensive experience, including as former Deputy Executive Director of the World Food Programme (WFP) and former UN Coordinator for the Black Sea Grain Initiative, discusses the necessity of political commitment and the importance of youth participation and anticipatory governance in shaping a sustainable future. Join us as we explore the pivotal actions needed to ensure food security for future generations.
Read the report: https://www.kofiannanfoundation.org/publication/fixfoodgovernance/
Resources: Ask a Librarian!
Where to listen to this episode
Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy
YouTube: https://youtu.be/dhGG4TNgUL8
Content
Guest: Amir Abdulla, Commissioner, Kofi Annan Commission on Food Security
Host: Francesco Pisano, Director, UN Library & Archives Geneva
Recorded and produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva