
Money Tree Investing
The weekly Money Tree Investing podcast aims to help you consistently grow your wealth by letting money work for you. Each week one of our panel members interviews a special guest on topics related to money, investing, personal finance and passive income. Episodes end with a panel discussion on the content of the interview, which allows us to give you a deeper understanding of what has been said by looking at it from different perspectives.
If you are ready to take control of your own financial situation, then the Money Tree Investing podcast is just the thing for you! Taken together, our expert panel has decades of experience in money matters. Add to that the valuable insights that our weekly guests will be able to provide, and you got yourself one vast source of knowledge, all available to you for free.
Latest episodes

Jun 6, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Money-Smart Solopreneur with Laura Adams
Laura Adams shares her journey into personal finance, podcasting, and authorship with her new book Money-Smart Solopreneur. She shares how she transitioned from corporate finance aspirations to helping individuals improve their money management through writing and podcasting. She discusses the evolution of book publishing, the growing need for supplemental income due to inflation and stagnant wages by starting side businesses, and practical advice on identifying marketable skills. We discuss... Laura Adams has worked in personal finance for nearly 15 years, transitioning from a corporate finance path after noticing even smart professionals struggled with money basics. Her passion for financial education led her to blogging and podcasting in the mid-2000s, eventually growing the "Money Girl" community. Writing books is a major undertaking that requires deep effort, especially when promotion is involved. Her dream of seeing her book on bookstore shelves motivated her to pursue traditional publishing, despite the changing landscape of book promotion. How the financial pressures facing many Americans today, especially due to inflation. Laura encouraged people to consider starting a side business to supplement income and access tax advantages. Side businesses should ideally be enjoyable since they often take place during personal time. Starting small and testing the market with minimal upfront investment is a smart approach to launching a side hustle. People should leverage existing skills and interests when brainstorming side business ideas. If your goal is quick income, practical gigs like freelancing, tutoring, or becoming a virtual assistant may be for you. Many people feel intimidated by starting a business but advised against overthinking early-stage logistics. Wait until a side business earns around $10,000 annually before worrying about formal structures like LLCs or accountants. Market research through conversation can spark ideas and reveal where your talents might fill a gap. Iterative experimentation are a great way to discover what business ideas are both enjoyable and viable. For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/money-smart-solopreneur-718 Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Douglas Heagren | ProCollege Planners Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast

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Jun 4, 2025 • 45min
AI Will Change Your Life in Surprising Ways
The discussion dives into how AI is transforming daily life and changing workplace dynamics. Key insights reveal that many struggle with AI due to vague inputs, leading to frustration with tools like ChatGPT and Claude. The potential for job loss looms for those who resist adapting to this technology. The hosts also explore AI’s role in tasks like travel planning and raise concerns about how these advancements may challenge personal identities and societal norms. Humor and serious themes intertwine as they navigate such a rapidly changing landscape.

May 30, 2025 • 54min
How the MLS is Destroying Your Real Estate Investment Strategy
Kurt Carlton discusses the inefficiencies of the MLS for a good real estate investment strategy. It's currently hard to find good deals, an MLS doesn't show the scale of vacant housing in the U.S., and some sellers often prefer off-market options that avoid inspections and repairs. We also talk broader market dynamics as today’s challenges stem not from distressed sellers, as in 2008, but from an aging housing stock and a severe shortage of new construction. Local real estate investors are best positioned to help restore inventory by rehabilitating vacant homes, offering a scalable solution to a long-term housing crisis. We discuss... Kurt Carlson has nearly 20 years of experience in real estate, specializing in distressed and value-add residential properties. Unlike the MLS, Kurt's real estate platform targets off-market and undervalued properties not suited for traditional homebuyers. The MLS is inefficient for distressed properties, as typical buyers are discouraged by repairs and inspections. Investors view property issues as opportunities to create value through design, rehab, and operational efficiency. Many realtors prefer listing distressed homes on Kurt’s marketplace rather than handling inspections and contractor coordination. Local investors can rehab properties more efficiently and cost-effectively than distant or uninformed sellers. There are roughly 15 million vacant homes in the U.S., presenting massive hidden inventory potential. Despite high housing demand, new construction is at historic lows—fewer homes are being built now than in 1992. Builders face high regulatory costs, land expenses, tariffs, labor shortages, and unpredictable demand cycles. Government programs often inflate demand rather than addressing supply constraints in affordable housing. Local real estate investors are critical to solving the housing crisis by repurposing vacant homes into livable inventory. Supply-demand imbalance persists because builders can’t profitably create affordable housing in high-demand areas. There is plenty of capital in the market, but the housing market is not clearing due to mismatches in pricing and affordability. Out of all homes sold in the U.S., one in five is purchased by a real estate investor, the majority of whom buy fewer than 10 homes per year. The perception that Wall Street is dominating the housing market is misleading; most activity is by small business operators. There is strong demand for single-family rentals (SFR), especially for families who don’t want to live in apartments. Revitalizing a few homes in neglected neighborhoods can start a chain reaction that attracts more investment and increases values. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Barbara Friedberg | Barbara Friedberg Personal Finance Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/real-estate-investment-strategy-kurt-carlton-716

May 28, 2025 • 45min
AI Is Getting Smarter—But Are We Ready for It?
AI is getting smarter, but are we ready? Today we deep dive into the evolution of tools like ChatGPT—from early, academic-sounding outputs to more recent capabilities that include humor, sarcasm, and nuanced storytelling. We explore how AI is rapidly improving but still faces a gap in practical, transformative use cases for the average person. The adoption curve is slow, but so it has been for past innovations like video games, the internet, and crypto. While AI is becoming more accessible, it hasn’t yet reached full mainstream integration, but it eventually will. We discuss... The explosion of AI interest since ChatGPT’s launch and its shift from novelty to everyday tool. How AI is getting better at sarcasm, creativity, and sounding more human unlike early AI with bland writing and a poor grasp of humor and nuance. The challenge of finding truly impactful AI use cases beyond convenience tools. The tech adoption spectrum, from everyday users to coders, and how AI fits into that. How AI follows a familiar tech adoption curve—past early adopters, not yet fully mainstream. Comparisons between AI today and early stages of gaming, internet, or crypto adoption. The idea that we’re still just scratching the surface of what AI can do in daily life. ChatGPT commands the most attention, Claude comes in a distant second, and Gemini is barely on the radar. Google is quietly testing a lead generation product (likely Local Services Ads) as a new revenue source. AI hasn’t yet reached the point of autonomously solving problems without user guidance. AI tools can produce mediocre output by default but become shockingly good with proper input and structure. AI isn’t replacing jobs yet, but people who know how to use AI are replacing those who don’t. There are viral examples of teens using AI to launch apps with multi-million dollar revenues. The more specific the prompt, the better the AI’s output—clarity is key. Business tasks like running scenarios, correlations, and planning can be done instantly with AI. There’s huge potential for public-facing AI avatars to field press, lead webinars, or handle customer interactions. Users respond well to AI when it's honest about being non-human—transparency builds trust. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Douglas Heagren | ProCollege Planners Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/ai-is-getting-smarter-715

May 23, 2025 • 55min
The Hidden Costs of Bad Estate Planning with Lauren Klein
Your bad estate plan is going to cost you! In today's episode, Lauren Klein, a Florida-based tax and estate planning attorney, discussed the critical components of effective estate planning. She debunks myths about revocable trusts, touches on the importance of regularly updating estate plans, and shares on the unethical financial incentives some attorneys may have to let plans fall short. We also talk the strategic use of irrevocable trusts, asset titling, and state-specific protections like Florida’s homestead laws for enhanced asset security. We discuss... Lauren Klein is a Florida-based tax, trust, and estate attorney who works nationally, helping clients with estate planning, probate avoidance, and tax strategies. Probate happens when someone dies owning assets solely in their name without a beneficiary or trust. Probate adds stress during grief and often sparks disputes—especially if there’s no clear plan or distant relatives get involved. Family fights usually come from unresolved issues, emotional baggage, or greed. Clear planning helps prevent conflict, though it can’t always stop it. Many assume a will or trust avoids probate, but trusts must be properly funded—assets need to be retitled into the trust or have it listed as beneficiary. The estate planning industry is too transactional—clients get documents but little follow-up. After a death, families often struggle to locate and transfer assets legally while grieving. It requires attorneys, paperwork, and patience. A common myth is that revocable trusts protect assets from taxes or lawsuits. They don’t during your lifetime—but they help avoid probate and add control. Revocable trusts shine when passing assets to kids. They can protect inheritances from divorce or lawsuits and become irrevocable (and stronger) after death. Trusts are especially helpful for blended families and young kids. You can distribute assets in stages and add estate tax protection with proper planning. Irrevocable trusts offer stronger protections but are more complex and better suited for high net worth or special planning needs. Asset protection varies by state—Florida, for example, offers homestead and tenancy protections. Even how you title a car can matter. Retirement accounts and life insurance have some protection, but it depends on the state. Listing all assets is key to building a strong estate plan. Crypto is showing up more in estate planning. It requires special steps to protect and transfer securely. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Barbara Friedberg | Barbara Friedberg Personal Finance Phil Weiss | Apprise Wealth Management Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/bad-estate-planning-lauren-klein-714

May 21, 2025 • 48min
China Tariffs Are Causing Big Problems In This Sector
China tariffs are causing big problems right now. Today we talk about the recent developments in U.S.-China trade relations, particularly the temporary pause in tariffs and the broader implications for investor sentiment and economic narratives. The fear over supply chain disruptions quickly faded once tariff discussions resumed—even though actual inventory issues remained unresolved. We also analyzed a new Republican tax bill, highlighting key proposals like eliminating taxes on tips and overtime, allowing deductions for car loan interest, and introducing a “MEGA account” to support education, home buying, and small business loans. We discuss... Trump temporarily paused tariffs on China for 90 days, reducing tensions and prompting speculation on political motives. Despite ongoing inventory lags, public and media attention has waned following the tariff pause announcement. People often react to headlines and political gestures without examining the actual impact or facts on the ground. Wall Street quickly shifted from fear to optimism despite unresolved issues, illustrating emotional market swings. Consumer sentiment has rapidly reversed from bearish to bullish, reflecting how quickly perception can change. Buffett’s principle of being fearful when others are greedy remains relevant in today’s sentiment-driven market. The proposed GOP tax bill includes a “No Tax on Tips” provision, widely supported as fair for service workers. A new “MEGA Account” is proposed to help with education, small business loans, and first-time homebuyer costs. The IRS uses audits not primarily to collect money but to scare people into compliance, as stated by an IRS official. Low-income taxpayers are disproportionately audited due to earned income tax credit claims. Wealthy individuals can afford legal support, making IRS audits less impactful for them compared to lower earners. The U.S. housing market is now at its most unaffordable level in recorded history. Mortgage rates are back to their historical average and unlikely to drop meaningfully. The Fed's long-term involvement in mortgage-backed securities has distorted the housing market. Interest rates remain high, and the Fed has yet to significantly cut, raising questions about the rationale for past rate cuts. For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/china-tariffs-are-causing-big-problems-713

May 16, 2025 • 48min
Filing for Bankruptcy the Right Way with Ashley Morgan
Ashley Morgan is here to share on filing for bankruptcy the right way. There has been a rising demand for bankruptcy services amid job losses and contracting challenges in the D.C. area, particularly among government contractors, and Ashley's VA based Law Practice has been doing a lot of work on these cases for both individuals and businesses. Ashley explains how bankruptcy can offer a fresh start, protect certain assets like homes or retirement accounts, and in some cases discharge tax and SBA debt. The conversation also covers the complexity of student loan discharge, the importance of asset protection and planning before filing, and misconceptions around credit damage post-bankruptcy. We discuss... Ashley Morgan, a bankruptcy attorney near D.C., discussed the rising demand for her services amid increasing job losses, particularly among government contractors. The economic slowdown in the D.C. area is creating a trickle-down effect, impacting local small businesses as stable government money dries up. Bankruptcy is a legal, court-supervised process to eliminate or restructure debt, offering individuals a fresh financial start. The U.S. system allows broader bankruptcy relief compared to many other countries, though outcomes depend heavily on income, assets, and debt type. Common types of bankruptcy include Chapter 7 (liquidation), Chapter 13 (repayment plan), Chapter 11 (business restructuring), and Chapter 12 (for farmers/fishermen). Chapter 11 is often used by large businesses to renegotiate leases, restructure payments, or close unprofitable locations. Small business owners can file Chapter 7 to shut down a business, but Chapter 11 can be cost-prohibitive for many. Personal credit isn't always impacted by business bankruptcy unless the owner personally guaranteed business debt. Bankruptcy doesn’t automatically ruin credit—many filers see credit scores rebound shortly after filing. Asset protection during bankruptcy varies by state; homestead exemptions can protect homes, but limits differ widely. Timing and transparency are critical—transferring assets before filing may trigger fraudulent conveyance issues. Retirement accounts (e.g., 401(k)s, IRAs) are often protected and can be used strategically before filing. Student loans are generally not dischargeable, though rare exceptions exist through adversary proceedings under "undue hardship." SBA and certain tax debts may be dischargeable under specific conditions, like being sufficiently old and properly filed. Ashley emphasizes the importance of early education, legal consultation, and realistic expectations about outcomes when considering bankruptcy. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Barbara Friedberg | Barbara Friedberg Personal Finance Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/filing-for-bankruptcy-ashley-morgan-712

May 14, 2025 • 44min
This Hidden Bull Market Is Hiding In Plain Sight
Discover the hidden bull market lurking in plain sight! The hosts delve into the fascinating dynamics of gold as a long-term value store, contrasting it with the rise of Bitcoin. They discuss media narratives, highlighting how sensational headlines often mislead the public. The recent election of a U.S. Pope adds an unexpected twist, reflecting the unpredictability of events. Climate change is framed as a complex issue, affected by propaganda and political agendas, while emerging trends in precious metals and crypto shake up the investment landscape.

May 9, 2025 • 1h 1min
Venture Capital in the Age of AI with Anthony Georgiades
Anthony Georgiades shares the future of venture capital in the age of AI. He shares his journey from an early failed startup to becoming a deeply technical investor focused on frontier technologies. He emphasizes the importance of technical literacy in venture capital, especially when evaluating deep tech. We also touch on the economic and existential risks of AI, emphasizing the need for governance, transparency, and decentralized control, while pointing to robotics as a slower-moving but ultimately transformative force in the physical economy. We discuss... Anthony Georgiades shared his background in business, venture capital, and a technical pivot into computer science and robotics. A failed early startup experience drove him to gain deeper technical proficiency to better assess and build emerging technologies. He emphasized the importance of deeply understanding deep tech and being able to speak fluently with technical founders. Web3 use cases are becoming more real, with examples like decentralized AI inference, verifiable model outputs, and on-chain computation. He highlighted the importance of decentralized GPU marketplaces and AI-native blockchains as potential disruptors. Web3’s decentralized financial infrastructure enables instant, global, and permission-less access to financial instruments. Banks remain entrenched due to regulatory, compliance, and sovereign monetary systems, despite growing disruption. Crypto is unlikely to replace fiat overnight due to legal, infrastructure, and fractional reserve complexities. AI is seen as the most inevitable trend, already impacting industries across the board. The exponential development of foundation models and the importance of proprietary data are creating a winner-take-most dynamic. Web3, though earlier in development, is viewed as more disruptive due to its potential to create new markets and rewrite institutional frameworks. He acknowledged real short- and long-term risks with AI, including economic displacement, misinformation, and loss of control. Existential AI risk stems from misaligned goals, where intelligent systems could pursue objectives with harmful side effects. Open models, auditable systems, and decentralized infrastructure are key to safer AI development. Robotics is considered the “final frontier” of disruption, especially as intelligent machines become capable of operating in the physical world. Use cases like autonomous farming are emerging as impactful applications of robotics innovation. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Barbara Friedberg | Barbara Friedberg Personal Finance Phil Weiss | Apprise Wealth Management Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/venture-capital-in-the-age-of-ai-anthony-georgiades-710

May 7, 2025 • 50min
Central Banks Are Hoarding This Asset Expecting Trump’s Next Move
The central banks are hoarding this asset while they wait for Trump's next move! In the meantime, Warren Buffett’s announced his official retirement and his handoff of leadership to Greg Abel. We talk Buffett’s post-2000 investment choices, the reasons he may have avoided buying Microsoft despite his close friendship with Bill Gates, and the challenges of managing massive capital. The hosts also touch on Buffett’s preference for capital-efficient, moat-heavy businesses and his indirect exposure to Microsoft through index holdings. We also discuss recent economic news, negative GDP print driven by rising inventories and reduced government spending. We discuss... Warren Buffett officially announced his retirement, passing leadership to Greg Abel. Buffett’s consistent outperformance over decades, despite criticisms of his recent picks. Buffett's size as an investor was cited as a limitation, forcing him to seek only very large investments. The recent negative GDP print, noting concerns around economic slowdown. Inventory buildup ahead of Trump-era tariffs artificially skewed GDP figures. Net exports and reduced government spending are key contributors to the negative GDP number. Consumer spending was also shown to have slowed, adding to concerns about potential recession signals. A sharp drop in consumer spending could be a clear economic indicator of a downturn. Business investment surged after Trump’s election due to economic optimism but has since stalled amid uncertainty Many business owners are holding back on investment due to a lack of visibility under the current administration. Shipping delays from China can take 30 days, meaning tariff effects won't be felt immediately but are now becoming visible. A drop in container orders from China suggests supply chain disruptions are already underway. The "bullwhip effect" explains how small supply chain changes can cause large swings in inventory and pricing. Warren Buffett is still sitting on significant cash, possibly anticipating better buying opportunities amid market volatility. A coming inventory crunch could cause inflation as demand outstrips constrained supply. Post-COVID rebounds in same-store sales distort trend lines and may create false signals. The official CPI of 21% over five years doesn’t align with real-world price experiences, suggesting data manipulation. Government inflation numbers may be inaccurate or understated, leading to misguided investing decisions. Investors should rely on personal experience and intuition—the “bullshit detector”—instead of blindly trusting official data. Today's Panelists: Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth Douglas Heagren | ProCollege Planners Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/moneytreepodcast Follow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/money-tree-investing-podcast Follow on Twitter/X: https://x.com/MTIPodcast For more information, visit the show notes at https://moneytreepodcast.com/central-banks-are-hoarding-this-asset-711