The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion
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488 snips
Oct 9, 2026 • 1h 1min

Intelligence Isn't Power

Arvind Narayanan, a Princeton computer scientist who studies AI, privacy and security, makes the case that AI is “normal technology,” not an alien intelligence. He and Ezra Klein debate alignment, autonomous agents, monitoring, AI-versus-AI defenses and the risk of losing control. They also explore regulation, bottlenecks, economic disruption and what evidence could disprove Narayanan’s thesis.
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Oct 7, 2026 • 1h 11min

‘This Is Nuts.’ An OpenAI Insider Explains Why He Quit.

David Robinson, a technology policy expert, civil rights advocate, and former OpenAI safety writer, explains why he resigned. He discusses OpenAI’s chaotic culture, rushed model releases, troubling signs of deception, and the widening gap between AI capabilities and human control. The conversation explores automation, competition with China, nuclear-style safeguards, and whether humanity should build machines smarter than itself.
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Oct 2, 2026 • 1h 7min

Is the World Getting Uglier?

Debbie Millman, a designer, educator, author, and creator of Design Matters, joins a conversation about why modern life can feel drab, vulgar, or emotionally flat. They explore how architecture, branding, technology, markets, and public spaces shape identity and belonging. They also examine convenience versus individuality, the politics of classical beauty, and whether design can make everyday experiences feel more alive.
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Oct 2, 2024 • 4min

About the Coming Paywall

The discussion pivots around the introduction of a paywall, marking a significant shift in the podcast landscape. It delves into the reasons behind this move, emphasizing the importance of subscriber support for quality journalism. The hosts explore the challenges posed by big tech in the digital realm and outline what listeners can expect from this new chapter. It's a candid look at how evolving financial models might shape the future of content creation and distribution.
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Jan 13, 2021 • 2min

Coming Soon: The Ezra Klein Show

Dive into a thought-provoking conversation about climate change and the political system’s inaction. Explore how market logic is woven into our daily lives and ponder the future of the Republican Party. Discover what psychedelics reveal about consciousness and examine sci-fi's insights on our current reality. Engage with pressing questions on creating a fair food system for both humans and animals. Each discussion sparks new ideas in a rapidly changing world.

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