

Give Them An Argument
Ben Burgis
Give Them An Argument is a YouTube show and podcast dedicated to building a smarter, funnier and more strategic Left. New episodes are live on YouTube on Monday nights with an exclusive postgame for GTAA patrons after the main show. (To become a patron, go to patreon.com/benburgis and sign up for the monthly cost of a milkshake at a 50s nostalgia diner in 1994.) Past guests have included Slavoj Žižek, Richard Wolff, David Pizarro, Gregory Sadler, Glenn Greenwald, Krystal Ball, Bhaskar Sunkara, Sam Seder, Ana Kasparian, Emma Vigeland, Matt Christman, and Amber Frost. The show has also featured debates between host Ben Burgis and opponents ranging from Walter Block to Charlie Kirk.Ben is a philosophy professor, Jacobin columnist, and frequent debater. He did a regular "Debunk" segment on the Michael Brooks Show until 2020. He's appeared on the Debate Night with Charlie Kirk, System Update with Glenn Greenwald, Rising, Krystal, Kyle & Friends, the Majority Report w/Sam Seder & the Joe Rogan Experience.benburgis.compatreon.com/benburgis
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Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 50min
Season 3 Episode 23: Emma Vigeland vs. the Right (ft. Paul Prescod and Emma Vigeland)
Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew watch Tucker Carlson and a guest talk about how the military should be full of people who want to sit on a "throne of Chinese skulls." Repeat GTAA guest Paul Prescod talks about his campaign for PA State Senate. Emma Vigeland joins Ben Burgis to break down the antics of Jordan Peterson, Josh Hawley, and Ben Shapiro. Professor Jennifer Burgis comes on for a philosophy segment at the end of the main show and we learn that in addition to having terrible political views Shapiro is pretty clueless about Kant. Anders Lee comes on to hang out in the postgame.Follow Paul on Twitter: @paul_prescodFollow Emma on Twitter: @EmmaVigelandFollow Jennifer on Twitter: @profjennburgisFollow Anders on Twitter: @andersleeherePaul's State Senate campaign website:https://www.paulprescod.com/Preorder Ben's new book (officially out on New Years):https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-mattersTake the class Ben and Thaddeus Russell are co-teaching on Marx at Renegade University:https://renegadeuniversity.com/product/marx/Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Dec 7, 2021 • 2h 6min
Season 3 Episode 20: A Very Bad Wizard Gives An Argument (ft. David Pizarro)
Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew watch Christopher Hitchens vs. Sean Hannity on the legacy of Jerry Falwell and then transition to a quick debunk of Prager U's "Healthcare is Not a Right" video. For the main event, Very Bad Wizards co-host David Pizarro and philosophy professor Ryan Lake join Ben to talk about some intersections between socialist political philosophy and the issue of free will and determinism, jumping off from G.A. Cohen's book "Why Not Socialism?" Finally, Professor Jennifer Burgis comes on to talk about Galen Strawson's argument against free will before Ben heads off to hang out with Djene Bajalan in the postgame for GTAA patrons.Link for the first episode of the new Callin show (you'll have to download the app on an iPhone, sadly):https://www.callin.com/room/episode-1-ama-QXpYTwbClFLink to the class on Marx with Thaddeus Russell at Renegade University:https://renegadeuniversity.com/product/marx/Watch the full version of Hannah Hoffman Music's Charlie Kirk Euthyphro song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMWZKcV-APUFollow David Pizarro on Twitter: @peezFollow Ryan Lake on Twitter: @chaospetListen to David on Very Bad Wizards: verybadwizards.comPreorder Ben's new book, "Christopher Hitchens: What He Got Right, How He Went Wrong, and Why He still Matters":https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-mattersIndependent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Nov 30, 2021 • 2h 8min
GTAA Season 3 Episode 19: James Lindsay is a McCarthyite Lunatic
James Lindsay is very very worried about communists. He sees "communists," "wokeists," "woke Marxists" and "CRT neo-Marxists" under every bed and stashed in every cupboard and he wants the government to pass laws to stamp out the threat although he also sort of thinks they control the government. (Confusing!) So Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew brought on an actual communist (Sean KB of Antifada) to tell us what's wrong with the dude. We're also joined by (ahem) "world-level James Lindsay expert" (we'll explain that one in the episode) Sam Hoadley-Brill. In the philosophy segment, Ben and his wife Professor Jennifer Burgis do a deep dive on how confused Ayn Rand was about utilitarianism. Nando Vila joins us to hang out in the postgame.Order Ben's new book on Hitchens:https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-mattersTake the Speakeasy class on G.A. Cohen vs. Jason Brennan starting next Sunday:https://www.speakeasy.com/e/g-cohenTake the Renegade University class on Marx in January:https://renegadeuniversity.com/product/marx/Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Nov 16, 2021 • 2h 30min
Slavoj Zizek on Communism (& Kant Was Not a Critical Race Theorist)
Slavoj Zizek comes back on the show to explain what he means by "communism" and how it relates to other ideas about socialism and capitalism. Later, in the philosophy segment, Ben and (since Professor Jennifer Burgis is still sick) Matt McManus discuss the question apparently being asked in the Washington Post about whether Immanuel Kant was a Critical Race Theorist. Also, Ben and the crew talk Christopher Hitchens, Henry Kissinger and Theranos, and there's preview for the patron Saturday bonus ep w/Gregory Sadler (on moral luck, Stoicism, and teaching philosophy in prison). Speaking of patrons (ahem: patreon.com/benburgis), in the postgame Djene Bajalan joined to talk about Prager U's love of the British Empire and what Milo has been up to since the mainstream Right dropped him.Buy Slavoj's new book:https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Disorder-Slavoj-%C5%BDi%C5%BEek/dp/1682192814/ref=sr_1_2Buy the Hitchens book:https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-mattersTake Ben's Speakeasy class in December:https://www.speakeasy.com/e/g-cohenFollow Matt McManus on Twitter: @mattpolprofFollow Gregory Sadler on Twitter: @philosopher70Follow Djene Bjalan on Twitter: @djenebajalanIndependent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Nov 9, 2021 • 2h 19min
Season 3 Episode 15 - Ana Kasparian vs. Ben Shapiro
Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew watch a U.S. Senator say (really) that people who believe that man-made global warming is a serious problem are "Trotsky-like wokesters" and Ben Shapiro says climate change isn't a big deal since only a few thousand people will die. Havey J. Kaye discusses his recent Twitter run-in w/Shapiro. (Actual) friend of the show Ana Kasparian comes on for a deep dive on her Shapiro debate last month at the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce. Jenn is out sick this week but Georgia State University philosophy professor Ryan Lake subs for her to do a philosophy segment on Ben Shapiro's claims about "natural law morality" in his book "The Right Side of History." That's right, guys. It's an all-Shapiro episode. But you should listen anyway. It's fun.Ben's Speakeasy class on Cohen vs. Brennan in December:https://www.speakeasy.com/event/g-cohen-1Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Nov 7, 2021 • 2h 10min
Season 3 Episode 13: G.A. Cohen vs. Jason Brennan (and Ben is Co-Teaching a Marx Class with Thaddeus Russell)
Marxist analytic philosopher G.A. Cohen wrote a book called, "Why Not Socialism?" Libertarian philosopher Jason Brennan wrote a response called, "Why Not Capitalism?" Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew debunk some claims that Brennan makes in a lecture on all of this. Also: Ben's going to be teaching a three-week class on both books (and his larger critique of Brennan and defense of Cohen) in December.Later in the show, returning GTAA champ Thaddeus Russell comes on the show to talk a little Karl Marx. Thad is a critic of Marx. Ben, obviously, is a big fan. Plot twist: After Ben's Cohen/Brennan class in December, Ben and Thad are going to be teaching a buddy-cop-movie of a Marx class in January. Should be fun!Finally (before the postgame for patrons) Ben and his wife Professor Jennifer Burgis do a philosophy segment on Ben's exchange w/Charlie Kirk about "objective truth." (We promise we'll start doing some not-about-Charlie-Kirk philosophy segments soon!Follow Jennifer on Twitter: @profjennburgisFollow Thaddeus Russell on Twitter: @ThaddeusRussellSign up for the G.A. Cohen/Jason Brennan class in December:https://www.speakeasy.com/e/g-cohenSign up for the Marx class co-taught by Ben and Thaddeus:https://renegadeuniversity.com/burgis Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Oct 27, 2021 • 3h 41min
Season 3 Episode 11: The Full Charlie Kirk Debate w/Postgame Commentary
Ben Burgis debates Charlie Kirk on "democratic socialism vs. Trumpian populism." Yes, that's right, we can finally air this. Ben and the crew do about half an hour of introductory material, discussing Kirk's role on the contemporary Right and the "platforming debate" as well as showing a classic TMBS clip with Michael Brooks, Matt Lech, and David Griscom weighing in on Charlie's odd way of referencing philosophers. The full first hour of the debate (the part that was filmed as an episode of "Debate Night with Charlie Kirk") is then played without interruption. When it's over, Ben, Professor Jennifer Burgis, and the crew weigh in on what they just heard and Ben and Jennifer pop some champagne and have a glass on air. The bonus hour of the debate is then played without interruption. When it's over, Ben and Jake have a quick celebratory shot of whiskey, everyone does some postgame commentary, and Ben announces a new class he's teaching on Sundays in December.Guys, this was really, really good.The Speakeasy class Ben is teaching on G.A. Cohen's "Why Not Socialism?" vs. Jason Brennan's "Why Not Capitalism":https://www.speakeasy.com/event/g-coh...Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Oct 19, 2021 • 2h 11min
Season 3 Episode 9 - How to Be An Anti-Capitalist in the 2020s (ft. Meagan Day)
Ben Burgis talks to Jacobin's Meagan Day about Erik Olin Wright's analysis in his book Class Counts of all the different (and sometimes contradictory) class positions different people can have under capitalism, and how that analysis helps us understand the current limits of oppositional groups like DSA, the class coalitions defining the PMC-dominated Democratic Party and the Trumpified Republican Party, and how all of this can help us to understand (to tweak the title of another of Wright's books) how to be an anti-capitalist in the 2020s.Also: Ben has a new book coming out! (You can preorder it here from worker-owned Red Emmas: https://redemmas.org/titles/36536-christopher-hitchens--what-he-got-right--how-he-went-wrong--and-why-he-still-matters ) Lin Wood has accused Marjorie Taylor Greene of being a communist. Ben and his wife Professor Jennifer Burgis break down Charlie Kirk's confusion about Rawls and the Veil of Ignorance. Lot going on in this episode even before we get to the postgame for patrons!Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, and much more.Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Oct 14, 2021 • 2h 9min
Season 3 Episode 7 - David Griscom and Matt Lech on Cryptocurrency
Ben Burgis talks to "Left Reckoning" hosts Matt Lech & David Griscom about cryptocurrency. Ben and his wife Professor Jennifer Burgis unpack Charlie Kirk's confusion about social contract theory and Rawls. Ben and Producer Jake talk about Charlie's "sexual anarchy" rant and Gene Epstein's argument against minimum wage increases.Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Oct 6, 2021 • 2h 15min
Season 3 Episode 6: Post-Kirk Debate Thoughts & Lillian Cicerchia on Marx's Theory of History
Ben Burgis is back from Arizona where he debated Charlie Kirk. Sadly the video won't be available for a few weeks but we'll be sharing some thoughts about it now. Ben and Producer Jake talk about that, as well as Sam Harris's conflict with Bret Weinstein. GTAA graphic designer J. Andrew World joins to talk about IATSE's strike vote. (Sign the petition! https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/tell-amptp-to-make-a-deal-with-behind-the-scenes-workers) Also, Lillian Cicerchia from the Free University of Berlin is back on to talk about the materialist theory of history. Ben is teaching an "Analytic Marxism and the Materialist Theory of History" class on for Michael Albert's online "School for Social and Cultural Change" starting next Sunday (October 10th) so this seemed like a good time to bring one of our favorite past guests on to talk about that.Follow Lillian on Twitter: @LILCICERCHFollow What's Left of Philosophy (co-hosted by Lillian and three other excellent people) on Twitter: @leftofphilRegister for Ben's class "Analytic Marxism and the Materialist Theory of History" at the School for Social and Cultural Change (meets on Sundays from 1-3 EST starting on the 10th): https://sscc.teachable.com/p/analytic...Independent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a bonus episode every Thursday, access to the Discord server, a “Sopranos” Recap Bonus Episode every month with Mike Recine, Nando Vila, and Wosny Lambre, a monthly Discord Movie Night, and "Discord Office Hours" (regularly scheduled group voice chats).Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.comSHOW LESS