Give Them An Argument

AMC's "Mad Men" came out 15 years ago this month. The main guest this week is labor organizer, writer, and professor Shaun Richman, who wrote an essay for Jacobin Magazine about the show's surprising points of connection to leftist ideas:https://jacobin.com/2022/07/mad-men-15-years-advertising-left-ideas-monopoly-capitalBefore that, Ben Burgis & the GTAA Crew go over an interesting part of Ben's debate with Tim Pool, Tulsi Gabbard & James O'Keefe where O'Keefe repeatedly dodged Ben's question about whether Project Veritas has wealthy donors. (Shockingly the answer is "yes, of course it does.") We also take a look at a recent incident where (defeating our expectations laid out in Episode 3) Jordan Peterson actually popped his head out from underneath his rock to talk to a leftist (Kyle Kulinski). At the end of the show, there's a philosophy segment on positive rights w/Dr. Jennifer Burgis and then Marcus from Left Flank Vets hangs out in the postgame for GTAA patrons.Watch the Valley Labor Report episode where they talk about the debate with Tim Pool, Tulsi Gabbard & James O'Keefe:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djh4AiC0nTU Follow Shaun on Twitter: @Ess_DogBen Burgis faces off against an interesting trio at the Minds.com Festival of Ideas about media manipulation, freedom of speech, and labor unions.Follow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.com

Ben Burgis faces off against an interesting trio at the Minds.com Festival of Ideas about media manipulation, freedom of speech, and labor unions.Follow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.comImage Credit, Tulsi Gabbard: Gage Skidmorehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/48610003506https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcodeImage has been cropped and color has been altered.Image Credit, Tim Pool: Pete Cashmorehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/mashable/8247087463https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcodeImage has been cropped and color has been altered.Image Credit, James O’Keefe: Gage Skidmorehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/gageskidmore/45553579845https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcodeImage has been cropped and color has been altered.

Last weekend, James O'Keefe did an ambush interview of Ben Burgis where he tried to claim that the segment Ben, Matt Lech & Producer Jake did last week ("James O'Keefe Hates Free Speech": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKX6tcOZxuQ) was somehow inaccurate. (It wasn't.) He then tried to twist Ben saying that workers who do bad or racist things shouldn't be punished without due process & shouldn't be doxxed to make some stupid anti-union point years later  into Ben saying that racism is good. It's asinine, but we have some fun watching it + the part of the debate Ben did with James, Tim Pool & Tusli Gabbard that was available at the point this episode came out. (The whole thing has been posted since.) We also talk a little Roe v. Wade, showing some of Ben's conversation w/Lillian Cicerchia, Jason Myles shows up to talk a little about his experience of the debate & the rest of the weekend in NYC, and Adnan Husain comes on as the main guest for a philosopher/historian dialogue with Ben on Marxist analytic philosopher G.A. Cohen's book "Karl Marx's Theory of History."  Finally, there's a philosophy segment w/Dr. Jennifer Burgis on Plato's Meno and Noami Karavani hangs out in the postgame for patrons.Watch Ben's full conversation on fighting for abortion rights after Roe v. Wade with Lillian Cicerchia:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvARAN4Bv8kRead the transcript in Jacobin:https://jacobin.com/2022/06/roe-v-wade-reproductive-health-movement-abortionFollow Adnan on Twitter: @adnanahusainFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.com

Tonight in NYC, Ben Burgis is going to be debating Tim Pool, Tulsi Gabbard & James O'Keefe at the Minds Festival of Ideas at the Beacon Theater. (See festival.minds.com.) This week's GTAA main guest Matt Lech (co-host @ Left Reckoning, producer @ The Majority Report) joins Ben for a hard look at all three of those people. Before that, Ben & the crew go through some of Krystal Ball's appearance on Real Time w/Bill Maher and discuss some extremely odd claims made this last week by Dennis Prager & Jordan Peterson. (Yes, this is a ghoul-heavy episode. Sorry?) Rob Larson hangs out in the postgame for GTAA patrons--where Rob, Ben & the crew check out the rest of Krystal's Real Time appearance (during which, for example, Bill reveals that he has no memory whatsoever of Wall Street crashing and being backstopped by the federal government at the beginning of the pandemic).Watch Left Reckoning: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCerkndrD3Z6rceekc4emVpAFollow Left Reckoning on Twitter: @LeftReckoningFollow Matt on Twitter: @MattLechFollow Rob on Twitter @IronicProfessorFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.com

Tim Pool has some thoughts about the Trolley Problem, so obviously we had to cover that. The main event, though, is a debate on free will between frequent GTAA guest Ryan Lake (who wrote an award-winning doctoral dissertation on the subject) and philosopher Gregg Caruso (who recently co-authored a collection of battling free will essays with Daniel Dennett). Dr. Jennifer Burgis joins Ben for a segment on Plato's Euthyphro at the end of the episode and then Jason Myles and Dr. Kuba from This is Revolution hangs out in the postgame for patrons.Read Ryan's dissertation:https://scholarship.miami.edu/esploro/outputs/doctoral/No-Fate-But-What-We-Make/991031447144502976Order Gregg & Dennett's book:https://www.amazon.com/Just-Deserts-Debating-Free-Will/dp/150954576XFollow Gregg on Twitter: @GreggDCarusoFollow Ryan on Twitter: @chaospetFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.com

Majority Report host Sam Seder returns to the show as the main guest for the GTAA season finale. Ben Burgis and his wife Professor Jennifer Burgis talk about Plato's "Crito" for the philosophy segment. Ben, Jenn & the GTAA crew raise a glass to toast all the high points of this season (Rogan! Charlie Kirk! Zizek!) and then good friend of the show Jason Myles (of This is Revolution) hangs out in the postgame for GTAA patrons. We'll be back in a few weeks for Season 4!Watch the Majority Report:https://majorityreportradio.com/Follow Sam on Twitter: @SamSederFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.com

Economics professor, socialist writer, and Current Affairs magazine "House Economist" Rob Larson joins Ben Burgis for a deep dive on "the Tuttle Twins"--a series of libertarian children's books. Before that, Ben and the GTAA crew review some of the best moments from his recent debate in Texas and talk about the value of the debate. In the philosophy segment at the end of the main show Ben and his wife Dr. Jennifer Burgis continue their discussion of Plato's apology by chatting a bit about his (fairly weird) claims about moral motivation. Friends of the show Conan Neutron and Ethan Herschenfeld hang out with patrons on the postgame.Follow Rob on Twitter: @IronicProfessorFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow Jenn on Twitter: @profjennburgisFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowBecome a GTAA Patron and receive numerous benefits ranging from patron-exclusive postgames every Monday night to our undying love and gratitude for helping us keep this thing going:patreon.com/benburgisVisit benburgis.com

In the opening segment, Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew talk about a Tennessee lawmaker's strange use of Hitler in an argument about the homeless, watch a video about Tucker Carlson's demagoguery and get into Christian Smalls's masterful appearance on Tucker's show. The main event is an interview with Jacobin staff writer Luke Savage about his article "The Republican Party Is Waging a War Against Personal Freedom and Free Expression." Continuing with the free speech theme, Ben and his wife Dr. Jennifer Burgis talk about Plato's apology in the philosophy segment at the end of the main show. Finally, Current Affairs writer Dan Walden hangs out in the postgame for GTAA patrons where we try very hard to make sense of James Lindsay's demented diagram about Hegel, Marx and "leftism"--and finally watch that previously promised libertarian take on Sesame Street. It's an extremely good time all around.Read Luke's article in Jacobin here:https://jacobinmag.com/2022/03/gop-texas-florida-trans-youth-crt-censorshipIndependent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get a postgame after every regular Monday night episode, access to the Discord server, and many other benefits--most importantly including our undying love and gratitude for keeping this thing going.Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

Two of our favorite guests (Prof. Richard Wolff and Jacobin Staff Writer Branko Marcetic) return to hash out a disagreement on vaccine mandates. Prof. Wolff is critical of such mandates on workers' rights grounds while Branko has strongly endorsed them in Jacobin. Ben Burgis is, just this once a moderator instead of a participant in a debate.Before the debate, Ben chats with the GTAA crew about his article in The Nation on Daniel Muessig, who's about to head to federal prison for 5 years for non-violent cannabis offenses:https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/muessig-biden-marijuana-pardon/After the debate, Ben chats with Matt McManus (filling in for Jenn for the philosophy segment) about his latest piece in Areo Magazine debunking the idea that postmodernism is some sort of "neo-Marxism":https://areomagazine.com/2022/04/11/is-postmodernism-neo-marxist/....and in between those there's the debate!Check out the work Prof. Wolff does at Democracy at Work:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK-6FjMu9OI8i0Fo6bkW0VARead Branko in Jacobin:https://jacobinmag.com/author/branko-marceticFollow Prof. Wolff on Twitter: @profwolffFollow Branko on Twitter: @BMarchetichFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgisFollow GTAA on Twitter @Gtaa_ShowIndependent creators rely on your support to create the content you want! Support Give Them An Argument on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/benburgis. Patrons get an exclusive postgame every Monday night, access to the Discord server and much more—most importantly including our undying love and gratitude for supporting us while we do this work.Follow Ben on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgisLike, subscribe, and get notifications on Ben’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/BenBurgisGTAAVisit benburgis.com

THE AMAZON LABOR UNION WON! That's huge. Ben Burgis and the GTAA crew celebrate. Then there's a little discussion of Ben's upcoming trip to Toronto (see here for details on be book event at Duke of York and the lecture at Ryerson: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis/status/1509997688162594820) and as the main event we unlock Ben's conversation with academic Jesse Spafford on G.A. Cohen's argument for socialism. In the philosophy segment w/Ben's wife Dr. Jennifer Burgis at the end of show, we talk about the Liar Paradox and Ben's new book. Finally, Matt McMaus hangs out and debunks Prager U with us in the postgame for GTAA patrons.To listen to that postgame and every other postgame, as well as to get access to the Discord server and several other benefits--most importantly our eternal love and gratitude for supporting the work we do here and letting us keep it going--become a GTAA patron:patreon.com/benburgisRead Jesse's paper:https://jessespafford.com/files/Community.pdfFollow the Amazon Labor Union on Twitter: @amazonlaborFollow GTAA on Twitter: @Gtaa_ShowFollow Ben on Twitter: @BenBurgsFollow Dr. Jenn on Twitter: @profjennburgisFollow Matt McManus on Twitter: @mattpolprofVisit benburgis.com