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Review of Democracy
RevDem Podcast is brought to you by the Review of Democracy, the online journal of the CEU Democracy Institute. The Review of Democracy is dedicated to the reinvigoration, survival, and prosperity of democracies worldwide and to generating innovative cross-regional dialogues. RevDem Podcast offers in-depth conversations in four main areas: rule of law, political economy and inequalities, the history of ideas, and democracy and culture.
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Jul 29, 2024 • 39min
Ukraine Will Not Slide into Authoritarianism - A Conversation with Pat Cox
In this conversation, Pat Cox reflects on the new term
of the European Parliament and the importance of the rise of the Right in the Union and its member states. He also discusses his work in Ukraine after 2012 – when he led a mission to free political prisoners imprisoned by President Viktor Yanukovych – as well as in more recent years when he has co-directed the Jean Monnet Dialogues which aim to build consensus between the main political parties represented in the Ukrainian Parliament.
Pat Cox was President of the European Liberal Democrat Group between 1998 and 2002 and served as President of the European Parliament from 2002 until 2004. In what turned out to be the final phase of the Santer Commission
in early 1999, he played a decisive role in establishing parliamentary accountability of the executive. Since 2015, he has been President of the Jean Monnet Foundation for Europe.

Jul 10, 2024 • 34min
Why Do We See the Rise of Anti-Democrats in Democracies? - Zack Beauchamp on the Reactionary Spirit Across the Globe
In this conversation at the Review of Democracy, Zack Beauchamp – author of the new book The Reactionary Spirit. How America’s Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World – discusses the specific kind of
antidemocratic politics that emerges in countries with democratic institutions; shows how the United States might to said to have invented competitive authoritarianism; explains the conclusions he drew from
comparing countries from different continents and how those conclusions may help us correct Western misperceptions; and reflects on the major intellectual
inspirations behind his book.
Zack Beauchamp is a senior correspondent at Vox where he covers challenges to democracy in the US and elsewhere, right-wing populism, and the world of ideas. He also acted as the host of Worldly, Vox’s weekly podcast on foreign policy and international affairs.
The Reactionary Spirit. How America’s Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World is published by Public Affairs.

Jul 8, 2024 • 40min
Why Was Central-South-East Europe Labeled as "Corrupt"? - Silvia Marton on Transnational Histories of ‘Corruption’
In this podcast, Silvia
Márton, principal investigator within the ERC Project “Transnational Histories of ‘Corruption’ in Central-South-East Europe,” discusses the multiple understandings of the concept “corruption” in the context of Central-South-East
Europe; the relevance of this debate in understanding the process of modernization between 1750 and 1850; factors that led politicians, scholars, travelers and writers to label Central-South-East Europe as “corrupt;” and how
this team aims to challenge the main historiographical debates through the use of multiple sets of sources.

Jul 4, 2024 • 14min
The intellectual sources of the EU Rule of Law crisis: In Conversation with Maciej Krogel
This latest RevDem Rule of Law podcast discusses the doctoral research of Dr. Maciej Krogel following the defence of his thesis “The intellectual sources of
the European Union’s response to the rule of law crisis in the Member States”.
Maciej is a lecturer at the University of Amsterdam and he completed a re:constitution fellowship in 2022/23.
Oliver Garner: Your Ph.D. traces the intellectual sources of the EU's response to the Rule of Law crisis in certain Member States. This is a topic that we have covered since the inception of RevDem. Could you
summarise your key findings for our listeners and readers?
Maciej Krogel: Thanks a lot for asking me about it. It is
still brand new to me to be graduated from the EUI and I think you are the first person to ask me about my research in an interview. So, indeed, I have written my thesis about the background conditions for the response of the European Union institutions to the Rule of Law crisis in the Member States. A lot has been written about the Rule of Law crisis, about institutions, about judiciaries, and about the problems in the Member States in the recent years. However, I think what was lacking, and what is lacking still, is the critical theory of the origins of what the European Union institutions are doing. We have some very specific critical accounts of, for example, the overly legalistic response or the democratic credentials of the response. But I have decided to trace the origins of the
Rule of Law response of the European Union to its earlier constitutional heritage, as I call it.
What has been lacking most of all, I think, has been situating the Rule of Law reactions, and also scholarship, within the broader constitutional heritage, concepts, ideas, and discussions of the European Union from the past decades. For instance, on topics such as constitutional pluralism, constitutional change, and membership in the European Union. These were the three main strands that I selected for tracing the origins in my thesis.

Jun 24, 2024 • 47min
Gergő Medve-Bálint on the First Two Decades of Hungary’s EU Membership
In this conversation, Gergő Medve-Bálint – co-editor,
with András Bíró-Nagy of the new volume Húsz év az Európai Unióban. Magyarország uniós tagságának közpolitikai mérlege (Twenty Years in the
European Union. A Balance Sheet of Hungary’s Membership and Public Policies) – discusses the achievements and shortcomings of Hungary’s EU
membership; what continuities and ruptures there have been across these two decades; in what
ways Hungary has been a reliable member of the club and where it has deviated from common agendas and policies; and what the case of Hungary may reveal about
how the semi-peripheries have fared within the EU since 2004.
Gergő Medve-Bálint is a Senior Research Fellow at the Department for Government and Public Policy,
HUN-REN Center for Social Sciences. He also acts as an associate professor in political science at Corvinus University.
Húsz év az Európai Unióban. Magyarország uniós
tagságának közpolitikai mérlege (Twenty Years in the European Union. A Balance Sheet of Hungary’s
Membership and Public Policies) has been published by Osiris Kiadó.

Jun 17, 2024 • 29min
Michael S. Roth on Being a Student and Student Activism Today - Finding the Pragmatist Middle Ground-
In this conversation at the Review of Democracy, Michael S. Roth sketches the main ways of being a student since ancient times; reflects on the process of learning “to be free”; explores the reasons behind
the politicization of universities in the United States; considers what might be new about the adversarial relationship between students and university
administrators these days; and sketches what “safe enough spaces” might look like in our turbulent
times.
Michael S. Roth is a historian, curator, author, and public advocate for liberal education. He has acted as President of Wesleyan University since 2007. He is the founding
director of the Scripps College Humanities Institute. He formerly acted as the associate director of the Getty
Research Institute in Los Angeles and as president of the
California College of the Arts. He is the author of eight books. The Student: A Short History is his newest book.
The Student: A Short History is published by Yale
University Press.

Jun 12, 2024 • 1h 1min
What Stops China From Ruling the World?
In this conversation with the Review of Democracy, Ho-fung Hung shares his eye-opening analysis of the internal contradictions and external limitations
plaguing China’s export-led development model and offers novel insights into the difficulties its political leadership is encountering in challenging US hegemony and extending its global sphere of influence. While acknowledging China’s impressive achievements, Hung emphasizes China’s technological dependency and chronic industrial overcapacity, the impact of the rise of
protectionism, the hegemony of the US dollar, and China’s lack of confidence in its military capabilities. At the same time, he forecasts the intensification of US-Chinese rivalry in connection with the gradual decoupling of the US and Chinese economies.
Ho-fung Hung is Henry M. and Elizabeth P. Wiesenfeld Professor in Political Economy at the Sociology Department of the Johns Hopkins University. His scholarly interests include global political economy, protest,
nation-state formation, social theory, and East Asian Development. He is the author of the award-winning Protest with Chinese Characteristics (2011, Columbia UP), The China Boom: Why China Will not Rule the World (2016, Columbia UP) and the Clash of Empires: From “Chimerica” to the “New Cold War” (2022, Cambridge UP).

Jun 10, 2024 • 54min
Joshua Leifer on the Autumn of American Jewish Life, the Most Serious Test of the Jewish Left, and Much More
In this conversation at the Review of Democracy, Joshua Leifer – author of the new book Tablets Shattered. The End of an American Jewish Century and the Future
of Jewish Life – analyzes the unravelling of the postwar American Jewish consensus and the reemergence of
oppositional Jewish politics; discusses what he sees as the four main political-religious tendencies in our times and how his own relationship to them has evolved over the years; explores the radical potential of traditional
Judaism; and reflects on how the diasporic double bind may be navigated today.
Joshua Leifer is a journalist, editor, and translator whose essays and reporting have appeared widely in international publications, including The New York Review of Books,
The New Statesman, and The Nation. Joshua is a member of the Dissent editorial board and is currently pursuing a PhD at Yale University which focuses on the history of modern moral and social thought. Tablets Shattered is Joshua Leifer’s first book.
Tablets Shattered. The End of an American Jewish Century and the Future of Jewish Life will be
released in August. It is published by Dutton.
The conversation was conducted by Ferenc Laczó. The
recording has been edited by Lilit Hakobyan.

Jun 7, 2024 • 36min
Incremental Rule of Law Restoration? Polish Minister of Justice Adam Bodnar in Budapest
What are the most important legal and political challenges in rebuilding the Rule of Law in Poland? Polish Minister of Justice Adam Bodnar highlighted them in his lecture at the CEU Democracy Institute in Budapest.
On May 27 the CEU Democracy Institute Rule of Law clinic was launched with an inaugural lecture from the Minister for Justice of Poland Adam Bodnar. The event provided a unique opportunity to hear a sitting member of an anti-illiberal government explain how the Rule of
Law will be restored after nearly a decade of backsliding under the previous government. The key theme of the lecture was the endorsement of incrementalism over revolution as a means to rebuild a ‘sustainable’ Rule of Law.

Jun 4, 2024 • 37min
Racism Against East Europeans
In this conversation, Jannis Panagiotidis and Hans-Christian Petersen – authors of the new book Antiosteuropäischer Rassismus in Deutschland. Geschichte und Gegenwart
(Racism Against East Europeans in Germany. History and the Present Day) – show why racism is an appropriate category when discussing stereotypes and prejudices
against East Europeans; explain why there is a need for “an Eastern enlargement of the racism debate”; discuss how the most extreme, National Socialist forms of racism relate to what came before and after; consider how racism against East Europeans might be embedded in the larger, more global system of prejudices and domination; and reflect on the current stakes of their scholarly intervention.
Jannis Panagiotidis is the Scientific Director of the Research Center for the History of Transformations (or RECET), an institute of advanced research in Vienna.
Hans-Christian Petersen is a staff member at the Federal Institute for Culture and History of the Germans in Eastern Europe (BKGE), which is based in the city of Oldenburg.
Antiosteuropäischer Rassismus in Deutschland. Geschichte und Gegenwart has been published by Beltz Juventa.
The conversation was conducted by Ferenc Laczó. Ádám Hushegyi and Lilit Hakobyan edited the audio recording.