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Talking about AI doesn’t have to feel like the end of the world.
Join Rich Ziade, Paul Ford, and their guests as they discuss how AI is changing software development, business strategy—and everything else. New episodes every Tuesday.
Join Rich Ziade, Paul Ford, and their guests as they discuss how AI is changing software development, business strategy—and everything else. New episodes every Tuesday.
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Sep 9, 2025 • 32min
Is Search Really the Future of AI?
Millions of people are using AI tools to search—so what does that mean for search engines? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich dive into (the questionably named) “GEO,” or Generative Engine Optimization. After an overview of Google’s classic model, they explore the ways AI is currently upending the search world, and speculate about what might emerge in the years to come. If LLMs cannibalize all the content on the web, what will be left to search in the future?

Sep 2, 2025 • 38min
Matt Seitz: MBA…I?
How should the business leaders of the future think about AI? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich are joined by Matt Seitz, the Director of the AI Hub for Business at the University of Wisconsin’s School of Business. Matt discusses his journey from years at Google to his current role at UW, and he gives on-the-ground insight into the AI struggles of both leadership and employees in this moment of transition. Plus: They ponder whether AI can improve Wisconsin cheese. (Spoiler: No. It is perfect.)

Aug 26, 2025 • 34min
AI Summer School #4: Chill Out About AGI
Aboard uses AI to help build software, but in just a few years, AI will gain sentience and take over our work, personal lives, and even brains—just kidding! Yes, the fourth and final installment of “AI Summer School” is about AGI, or “Artificial Generalized Intelligence.” What does it mean? Can anyone agree on a definition? And if no one can define it or agree on those definitions, what’s the likelihood that all these Silicon Valley AGI predictions will come true?

Aug 19, 2025 • 31min
AI Summer School #3: From Agents to Apps
Adam Pash, CTO at Aboard, joins the discussion on harnessing AI to build apps, emphasizing the blend of structure and flexibility in development. He explores the critical role of digital agents in enhancing user onboarding and provides insights into the balance between systematic approaches and vibe coding. Lively anecdotes reveal common pitfalls in using AI and stress the necessity of 'guardrails' for maintaining control. Overall, the conversation sheds light on the dynamic interplay between AI technologies and human creativity in app development.

Aug 12, 2025 • 35min
AI Summer School #2: Call My Agents
“Agents” are a big marketing term for AI companies right now—but how do they actually work? In the second installment of AI Summer School, Paul and Rich are joined by Aboard Director of Engineering Kevin Barrett, who breaks down what “agent” actually means, and how they function within the platform. Plus: In the process of demoing Aboard’s agent capabilities, Paul becomes transfixed by the breeding records of a fictional alpaca farm.

Aug 5, 2025 • 31min
AI Summer School #1: How LLMs (Don’t) Think
Feel a little lost when it comes to AI? It’s time to go back to school—Aboard’s AI Summer School! Over the month of August, Paul, Rich, and a few special guests will break down the basics of LLMs, agents, AGI, and a host of other AI-related topics. In the first installment, they discuss how LLMs think—or rather, don’t think—and compare the major players on the AI scene right now.

Jul 29, 2025 • 28min
Timing My Vibe Coding
The hosts dive into the concept of vibe coding, contrasting it with traditional software development. They explore the evolution of coding tools, discussing the balance between simplicity and complexity, as well as the psychological challenges of using AI. A humorous personal story about a birthday cake order highlights the importance of personalization. They also address AI's limitations in understanding user prompts. Finally, the conversation looks at the future of computer science education and the foundational skills needed for tomorrow's tech landscape.

Jul 22, 2025 • 35min
The View from the Lebanese Tech Scene
How do you build for the future amid ongoing instability? This week, Paul and Rich turn to Lebanon—literally, since that’s where Rich, who was born in the country and still has family there, is calling in from. After they discuss some Lebanese basics (Cedars! Small plates!) they turn to the Lebanese tech scene, discussing everything from investments in the Beirut Digital District to Aboard’s partner agency in Lebanon, Speedlane.

Jul 15, 2025 • 26min
Why We Made Aboard Human-First
AI is a great first step, but to really build software, you need humans to get the job done. On last week’s podcast, Paul and Rich talked about how Aboard works by focusing on those AI first steps; this week, they dig into the human work that gets Aboard projects over the line, from classic agency-style client management to the brand-new role of “Solution Engineer.”

Jul 8, 2025 • 30min
Reintroducing Aboard
Dive into the fascinating world of AI-driven software development! Discover how Aboard transforms simple prompts into functional applications in mere minutes. The hosts creatively demonstrate a digital management solution for a hypothetical pumpkin patch, showcasing innovative tools for scheduling and event coordination. Learn about the essential interplay of human engagement in tech and the exciting evolution of the software industry. With discussions on user experience and faster app development, this is a peek into a revolutionary future.


