New Podcast Let Us Reason - A Christian/Muslim Dialogue

Dr Jay Smith discusses the book that Dr Asma Hilali wrote on the Sana Palimpsest manuscripts.  He talks about the conclusions that she came up with by comparing it to todays Hafs Quran; she says that there are seventy variants in sixty three verses.  She also believes that it is a student text.  Jay says that that shuts down the idea of the preservation of the Quran which both Muslim and the Quran claim ( ie Sura 85: 21,22).  Then Jay and Al discuss some of the differences as examples.  Then they ask the question : Is the Quran perfectly preserved? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Sana manuscripts is a palimpsest manuscripts ; which means that there is a lower and upper layers of writing . Scholars say that the two writings are late seventh and early eighth century respectively.  They think that it is two versions of the Quran; the first is a pre- standard Quran which was erased and rewritten as the canonical version.  On comparing the two writing , it was found that there are seventy variants between the two.  Dr Jay says that the lower text was erased because it needed to be updated.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Sana'a manuscript was discovered in Yemen in 1975, it is very old with no dots and vowels.  It is a palimpsest (It has two layers of writings). It had late 7th to 8th century scripts.  It was carbon tested at the university of Arizona in 2007, and was dated to mid 7th century. The same segment was taken to four Europeans labs and they did not agree with the Arizona dating.  Shoemaker concludes that there is a problem with the carbon dating because the process dates the skin of the animal not the time the writing was writtenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Anthony Rogers continue their discussion of Isaiah 53.  In this session they discuss how Jesus and His disciples talked about the fulfillment of Isaiah 53; 1. In Luke 24 after Jesus's resurrection ; he is explaining to the two disciples on the road to Emmaus  how the Christ will suffer, die and come back to life.  2. All four accounts of the gospel mention Isaiah 40 a voice crying out in the wilderness . 3. Jesus told his disciples that he will go to Jerusalem to die.  4. Another example was in Acts 8 where Philip is explaining the suffering Messiah to the Ethiopian who was reading Isaiah 53.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Anthony Rogers continue in Isaiah 53 about the reason for the death of the righteous servant.  It is atone for the guilt of the people (53:5,11).  This is the gospel message in advance.  The gospel is the good news; in Isaiah 40:9, 52:7.  Is. 53:1 the gospel is proclaimed. The gospel of Mark starts as it is written in Isaiah.  Zachariah 6:12 talks about the branch/ The Nazarene/ the Messiah. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Anthony Rogers continue discussing Isaiah 52 and 53, They notice that this servant is an individual, a human, a man, not a nation.  The pronoun "He" is being used many times.  In Isaiah 52:13, This servant will be highly exalted.  In Isaiah 2, the Lord alone will be exalted; This shows the divine identity of this figure.  Isaiah 52: says that this upright man will suffer and die, buried , resurrected and exalted (Is. 52:13,14).  He will be stricken, smitten , and afflicted (Is. 53:4) . He will be chastened, scourged , and crushed (Is. 53: 5). This figure will die for the sins of his people, and he will succeed. This person is the Lord Jesus.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Dr David continue to disprove the myth of the perfect preservation of the Quran.  In this episode they go to a book called Fadaelle Al Quran;  in Sura 33 there is only 73 verses left of 200 original verses; the reason is that a sheep ate it according to Ayesha who had the only copy of the sura.  According to Muslims the Quran was preserved by memory. in Sura 87: 6,7 Allah allows Mohammad to forget some suras that He wills.  In Hadith Al Bukhari 50:38,39 Mohammad claims that Allah caused him to forget some verses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mohammad married Ayesha at age 6 and consummated the marriage at age 9.  The Quran allows marriage of  prepubescent child (Sura 65:4).  And since Muslims believe that Muhammad was an example for mankind; therefore Islam allows child marriage.  In order to justify that; the Muslim Da'wa team lie about girls being married as a child in the Bible; Mary is one example. They find unreliable Catholic apocryphal sources. Al and David discuss this matter in more details.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The lie of the perfect preservation of the Quran is no longer believable. Dr wood and Al Fadi discuss the discovery of multiple copies of the Quran that don't agree with each other.  They also discuss the debate between Muslim scholars and debaters about how to answer  the false claim of the preservation of the QuranSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith discuss the incarnation of Jesus; the word became flesh. Muslims deny that God can come to earth even though the story of the burning bush is in Chapter 20:10-14 of the Quran . The only way to have a holy ground is if God is there. They also talk about the two types of revelations; the general revelation/ creation, and special revelation. Christians agree on the general revelation .  Muslims believe that the Quran is a special revelation; is eternal, sent down, complete, and unchanged .The Quran is not complete and it changed according to all the research that was done.  Christians believe that Jesus is the Word of God, eternal, came down , never changed, and the only complete revelation of God.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.