New Podcast Let Us Reason - A Christian/Muslim Dialogue

Al and Mel continue to discuss the critique of The Dome of the Rock.  They say that there is multiple accounts of who and when the dome was built, which indicate that the building underwent multiple stages of rebuilding due to the fact of multiple earthquakes (ie1015, 1033AD) happened during its lifetime .  To assume that the building was damaged but not the inscription is unreal.  Also the number of columns changed from 8 inner and 24 outer to 12 inner and 16 outer columns.  These are some of the reasons for a later date of the building and inscription according to AJ Duse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al and Mel discuss the time of the inside inscription on the building of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.  Their discussion is built on the article; "The Jewish Serpent King in the Dome of the Rock" by AJ Deus.  AJ says that the inscription on the inside of that building is not 7th century inscription but rather sixteenth century.  They point out that the crusaders were in control of Jerusalem for two centuries (11th and 12th), and that they held Christian services inside the Dome. It is very unlikely that the pope will leave a memorial for Mohammad there. All this is a strong case for a later date.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Rob Christian discuss some suras in the Quran that talk about Christ divinity and what Muslims call scientific miracles in the Quran.  Sura 9:31, it talks about Jews and Christians taking their monks and rabbis as gods beside Allah and the Messiah.  This implies unification since Jesus was not included in the monks and rabbis but with Allah.  Sura 43:61 says that Jesus knows the last hour. This implies he is all knowing.  In sura 86:7 shows that Allah does not know the correct anatomy of the human body. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One of the claims that Muslims accuse Christian and Jews of is that the Bible has been corrupted.  Al Fadi and Rob Christian say that no where in the Quran or Hadith say that; Sura 115, 5:47;10:94,61:6, are some of the suras that confirm that the Bible is the word of God and was not corrupted.  The reason why they say that it was corrupted because they can not find the name of Muhammad (Ahmed) in the Bible. The accusation started by a famous scholar  in Spain in the tenth century.  Also in the 19th century the Arabic translation of the Bible was completed and they can read and not find the name Ahmed in there.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Rob Christian discuss 1. What Ibn Abbas, Mohammad's cousin, and the father of commentators said, A. About the Quran and poetry, he said : " If Part of the Quran is missing or lost; just complete it with your own personal poetry".  B. Ibn Abbas also said about Sura 13:31, that the scribe made a mistake in two words because he was sleepy.  they ask the question;  How does Allah allow a sleepy scribe to corrupt the Quran?  2. They point out that the Quran was tampered with by early Muslims , and no Muslim should accept his Quran as divine. They discuss Sura 56:29 and 37:12.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Rob Christian discuss how a chain of people contributed to the Hafs Quran.  His full name is Hafs Ibn Suleiman Al Bazzaz.  He was known by Islamic sources by copying other people books and that he was a liar. Among the people that influenced his version are Zeid, Ubai Ibn Kaeb, Ibn Masoud and Asim (who was blind and had problem with memory).  Ibn Massoud was trusted the most by the prophet Mohammad, but his version was not chosen by Othman, and his version does not match today's Quran .See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi and Rob Christian discuss how a chain of people contributed to the Hafs Quran.  His full name is Hafs Ibn Suleiman Al Bazzaz.  He was known by Islamic sources by copying other people books and that he was a liar. Among the people that influenced his version are Zeid, Ubai Ibn Kaeb, Ibn Masoud and Asim (who was blind and had problem with memory).  Ibn Massoud was trusted the most by the prophet Mohammad, but his version was not chosen by Othman, and his version does not match today's Quran .See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rob Christian and Al Fadi discuss the claim that Mohammad is a descendant of Ishmael. They use Muslim sources . First the Quran does not mention that Mohammad is related to Ishmael. According to a book called "History and Knowledge", vol1,pg 269  Al Abbas; Mohammad's uncle, said that Mohammad was a nobody to the Quraish tribe.  Another source is Life of the Prophet by Ibn Kathir vol 1, pg. 51; it says that there is a broken lineage between Adnan and Ishmael. Omar Ibn Al Khattab said that they only carry the lineage as far as Adnan.  So Muslims can not back up the claim.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rob Christian and Al Fadi say that Muslims brag that it is a miracle that Mohammad was illiterate; ie that he doesn't read or write.  But another meaning to illiterate is the one who came to a people without a book(The Arabs).  Sahih Bukhari #2125 says that Mohammad was a guardian to the illiterate.  Mohammad was not a name but a title (the praised one).  Mohammad real name at birth and until he was forty years of age was Qutham ibn Abed Al Laat, according to the book of" The life of Mohammad " by Muhammad Hasan Haykel ,page 39.  This is according to Muslim sources. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi asks Rob Christian two questions: 1. Did Mohammad go to Jerusalem to visit Al-Aqsa Mosque?( Was the real Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem?) The answer is no: A. Historically the mosque was build in 691 AD and Mohammad died in 632 AD. B. There was a mosque  called Al Aqsa close to Mecca that Mohammad visited. Sahih Bukhari #2850.       2. Where did Mohammad learn to clean himself?  He copied the Jews and it became Sunna tradition.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.