

Great Minds on Learning
John Helmer
Internationally respected author, blogger and learning expert, Donald Clark joins John Helmer of the Learning Hack podcast to discuss the history of thought and theorising about learning. The inspired, the enduring, the wacked-out weird and the just plain wrong, from Aristotle to the present day.
© John Helmer 2021
© John Helmer 2021
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Nov 7, 2022 • 1h 1min
GMoLS3E16 Gamification with Donald Clark
All humans play games of one type and another. Philosophers and psychologists have seen play as an integral to our nature as human animals. Harnessing the power of this instinctual drive for the purposes of learning has been a perennial theme over the last three decades, givven greater impetus by the dramatic rise of computer games as a new and dynamic form of media. But can game-based experiences, and gamified interfaces, risk destroying learning as much as they support it? This episode looks at the work of theorists who have tangled with this question, illuminating the complex interaction of play, motivation and learning, and the future possibilities opened up by the metaverse. 0:00 - Intro 1:20 - Introducing Gamification 9:36 - Johan Huizinga (1872 – 1945) 17:45 - James Paul Gee (1948 –) 25:46 - Marc Prensky (1946 – ) 34:05 - Richard M. Ryan and Scott Rigby 48:52 - Summing Up The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Huizinga bit.ly/3wqrZh5 Gee bit.ly/3ENDO3W Prensky bit.ly/2RoMyHr Ryan & Rigby shorturl.at/emsAB Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Oct 24, 2022 • 26min
GMoLS3 Bonus episode: What Did We Learn? with Carl Crisostomo
GMoL is on a mid-season break, but in this bonus episode without Donald Clark, John discusses the series so far with Carl Chrisostomo. Under his social media alias of Carllearns, Carl has been 'learning out loud' on his journey of discovery in learning science. He reflects on the part GMoL has played as guide and wayfinder in that journey. In a sense, it's a learner takeover: both Carl and John talk about how the series has changed their understanding of learning: two minds perhaps less touched by greatness, but both animated by a deepening and widening appreciation of the ways in which we learn, and the rich literature that engages and rewards curiosity about this fascinating subject. 00:00 Intro 00:15 Carl's learning journey 08:18 Carl's first GMoL episode 13:48 Which episodes resonated with Carl? 18:42 How GMOL has changed Carl's view on learning 21:04 What should GMoL cover in the future? 23:17 Where to follow Carl The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Follow Carl Twitter: @carlcrisostomo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlcrisostomo Website: http://www.carllearns.com/ YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/carlcrisostomo Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Oct 10, 2022 • 1h 7min
GMoLS3E15 Evolutionists with Donald Clark
This episode explores the impact of what has been called the most important idea in human history, Darwin’s Theory of Evolution. A powerful idea, still to this day controversial in some quarters, its impact was felt far beyond the natural sciences where it was first formulated. But what does it mean for learning? 0:00 - Intro 1:19 - Introducing the Evolutionists 9:41 - Charles Darwin (1809 – 1882) 19:32 - James Mark Baldwin (1861 – 1934) 29:43 - David C. Geary (1957 – ) 40:58 - Steven Pinker (1954 – ) 56:25 - Summing Up The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Darwin bit.ly/3F7lL9W Baldwin bit.ly/3FchSAs Geary bit.ly/330821Z Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 5min
GMoLS3E14 VR & Metaverse with Donald Clark
When Mark Zuckerberg announced the renaming of his company from Facebook to Meta in 2021, he provoked a surge of interest in this new thing, the Metaverse. But virtual worlds are nothing new, and people have been learning in virtual worlds for over a decade. This episode explores the thought of those who have tackled the practical and philosophical questions that learning in virtual worlds raises. And to be true to the spirit of the subject, Donald and John conducted their discussion INSIDE a virtual world. 0:00 - Intro 1:32 - Introducing VR and the Metaverse 10:08 - Jaron Zepel Lanier (1960- ) 14:30 - Guido Makransky 23:04 - David J. Chalmers (1966- ) 32:23 - Jean Baudrillard (1929 – 2007) 40:50 - Mark Zuckerberg (1984- ) 46:13 - Robert Nozick (1938-2002) 55:47 - Summing up The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Lanier bit.ly/3qU94KV Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Sep 12, 2022 • 1h 4min
GMoL S3E13 Learning Styles with Donald Clark
This group of theorists focused on the easily observable fact that all learners are not the same, and attempted to systematise those differences according to learner preferences. With the best of intentions (in most cases) they divided learners into discrete groups (e.g Visual, Auditory, Kinaesthetic) and made recommendations for how educators should treat each group. This approach has since been widely attacked in multiple studies that show there is almost no scientific basis to these theories. Nevertheless they remain popular and in common use. Donald and John explore the origins of learning styles, and the reasons for its enduring popularity as an idea. Far from being just a mass delusion, was it perhaps in some of its formulations the signs of a burgeoning - and welcome - recognition of difference among learners? 0:00 – Intro 1:20 - Introducing Learning Styles 6:12 - Richard Bandler (1950 – ) 18:25 - Neil D. Fleming (1939-2022) 25:22 - Dr. Rita Dunn and Dr. Kenneth Dunn 34:32 - David Allen Kolb (1939 - ) 41:28 - Peter Honey and Professor Alan Mumford 48:06 - Summing Up The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Bandler bit.ly/3bsMQpf Fleming bit.ly/2vv6Uau Dunn & Dunn [Link TBD] Honey & Mumford bit.ly/39pKEgB Kolb bit.ly/2uWWi3R Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

May 3, 2022 • 1h 15min
GMoL S2E12 Greeks with Donald Clark
At the very origin of our ideas of about learning, as well so much else that defines our culture, lies the extraordinary flowering of thought and discovery centred on Athens from the fifth to the second century BC. This episode takes us back to the very earliest group of thinkers this series will cover, the ancient Greeks. 1:02 - Introducing the Greeks 11:36 - Socrates (c. 470–399 BC) 23:34 -Plato (428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BC) 34:06 - Aristotle (384–322 BC) 47:25 - Pythagoras (c. 570 – c. 495 BC) 53:57 - Euclid (c. 325 - c. 270 BC) 57:46 - Archimedes (c. 287 – c. 212 BC) 1:05:41 - Summing Up The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Socrates bit.ly/2FQz0hH Plato bit.ly/386Cd96 Aristotle bit.ly/2tdGUzi Pythagoras, Euclid, Archimedes bit.ly/38hEL46 Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 4min
GMoL S2E11 Informal Learning with Donald Clark
This episode’s thinkers were driven by a common belief that while practically all the attention and money in training and education is lavished on formal interventions, informal means of learning account for a much larger proportion of what actually happens. How should this insight change our view of learning, and what role does technology play? Donald and John discuss a movement that has come to seem more and more prescient as learning technology has developed, and whose ideas are becoming increasingly mainstream: informal learning. 1:03 - Introducing Informal Learning 3:58 - Victoria J. Marsick & Karen E Watkins 16:31 - Gloria Gery 27:39 - Jay Cross (1944-2015) 41:12 - Mihalyi Csikszentmihalyi (1934-2021) 54:25 - Summing Up The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Marsick bit.ly/3zTtvs6 Gery bit.ly/2Ws0qGP Cross bit.ly/32Vxsh6 Csikszentmihalyi bit.ly/2IpTXBA Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Mar 28, 2022 • 1h 16min
Workflow Learning with Donald Clark
Workflow learning, or 'learning in the flow of work' as it is often called, is a hot topic these days. In a world where technology delivers fast, personalized information at the point of need, does it really make sense any longer to think of a course as the default unit of learning? This episode explores theorists and practitioners who strove to take learning out of the classroom and the training suite and situate it in the site of performance itself. Introducing Workflow Learning – 1:04 Guy W. Wallace - 8:35 Richard E. Clark – 15:01 Bob Mosher & Dr. Conrad Goddfredson – 31:19 Richard Thaler (1945- ) & Cass Sunstein (1954- ) – 41:46 Charles Jennings - 54:46 Summing Up – 1:04:17 The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Wallace http://bit.ly/3k9r4fY Clark http://bit.ly/3oqI1pj Mosher & Goddfredson http://bit.ly/3mDn1ZT Thaler & Sunstein http://bit.ly/3wvb7G2 Jennings http://bit.ly/3D5M9ir Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Feb 28, 2022 • 57min
Affective Learning with Donald Clark
The issue of emotion is something often downplayed or even omitted altogether in accounts of how people learn and how they can best be supported in learning. And yet it turns out to be critically important. At a fundamental level, it is involved in how we encode, retain and access memories. It is also vital to engagement with learning. This episode focuses on theorists from Krathwohl to Shackleton-Jones who thought and wrote about affective learning. 0:00 - Intro 1:02 - Affective Learning 5:56 - David Reading Krathwohl (1921-2016) 12:02 - Antonio Damasio (1944- ) & Mary Helen Immordino-Yang 18:28 - George Philip Lakoff (1941- ) 24:59 - Jaak Panksepp (1943 – 2017) 32:19 - Daniel Kahneman (1934- ) & Amos Tversky (1937 - 1996) 40:32 - Nick Shackleton-Jones 45:20 – Summing up The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Krathwohl bit.ly/3mKKwlj Damasio & Immordino-Yang https://bit.ly/3pYPnRK Lakoff bit.ly/3GP8Pq3 Panksepp bit.ly/3EOOjEb Kahneman & Tversky bit.ly/3mNNVQ9 Shackleton-Jones bit.ly/3qcaaS0 Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Feb 14, 2022 • 1h 3min
Social/Team Learning with Donald Clark
In the late twentieth century organizations embraced the information age and team-working became a more important aspect of workplaces. Along with this change went a shift in learning theory away from an exclusive focus on the individual. This episode looks at a group of theorists who explored learning within the context of teams, families, social networks and society as a whole. ---------- 0:00 - Intro 1:02 - Social and Team Learning 3:41 - Meredith Belbin (1926- ) 17:15 - Eduardo Salas 25:29 - Étienne Wenger (1952- ) 33:32 - Julian Stodd 42:40 - Judith Harris (1938-2018) 52:48 - Summing up ----------- The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Belbin bit.ly/3bvfi9h Salas bit.ly/2xymumo Wenger bit.ly/2QRy2HY Stodd bit.ly/2QLNdCy Harris bit.ly/2SjwVSr Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Read Donald's latest book, Learning Experience Design https://www.amazon.co.uk/Learning-Experience-Design-Create-Effective/dp/1398602620/ref=asc_df_1398602620/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500792593882&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8463523561401709872&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006565&hvtargid=pla-1245069293197&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/